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[Punished Miku]

Kusarigama could be cool. That's about all I got from that trailer. I loved the 1st one in act 1 and 2 then just dropped it and couldnt do it anymore.

Main thing I was hoping to see was cities, buildings and interiors. Doesnt seem like its going to be different from the 1st game in that area so far at least. I'll definitely play it at some point.

 

[sachos]

I'm pretty sure this is just running on the basic PS5 since they didn't say it was captured from a PS5 Pro.

Yup, the trailer was running on base PS5. Said so at the start. Can't wait to see it on the Pro.

 

[DeepEnigma]

The meltdowns over controlling a female character

Yet were practically lactating themselves over Neir and Stellar Ass. I'm confused.

 

[fallingdove]

If she was some stealth and/or ranged warrior, I wouldn't have an issue.

She's a melee warrior. All 110lbs of her. In a grounded setting.

No. Just, no.

In a video game where you absorb mortal wounds and keep coming back to life after you die and follow the wind and nearby animals to hidden items.

Seems like a female lead is pretty trivial in comparison.

 

[bender]

Kill bill was cringe af as a high schooler too.

 

[Topher]

a little deja vu:

Watch that ending again. It's like he farts blood

timestamped

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

In a video game where you absorb mortal wounds and keep coming back to life after you die and follow the wind and nearby animals to hidden items.

Two things the entire gaming populace has been conditioned to accept since the dawn of the medium.

Seems like a female lead is pretty trivial in comparison.

...vs observing the profound physical disadvantages women have in combat our entire lives.

Trivial is not the word I would use.

 

[balls of snow]

Day 1. Lady samurai already makes this more interesting than the first game.

 

[Topher]

Two things the entire gaming populace has been conditioned to accept since the dawn of the medium.

...vs observing the profound physical disadvantages women have in combat our entire lives.

Trivial is not the word I would use.

Compared to the absolutely batshit crazy stuff we do in video games on a regular basis, being a female warrior is absolutely trivial.

 

[balls of snow]

Nice the anti woke target is on a Sony game again. Feels like 2020.
Will thoroughly enjoy the bickering on sidelines. Or maybe everyone can just

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

Compared to the absolutely batshit crazy stuff we do in video games on a regular basis, being a female warrior is absolutely trivial.

So awful casting is acceptable because...Beyonetta exists?

Impressive mental gymnastics.

 

[RedHotFlip]

I don't really care if the main character is female or not, even though it's hard not to get exhausted with it all ..I just thought Jins story had a lot more left in the tank. With games taking all of a decade to come out stuff like this is a big deal.

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

Having a female protagonist with a revenge story could really be good without it feeling forced

Imagine if her child was killed or kidnapped or something pushing her story forward with twists along the way.

Sucker punch gets the benefit of the doubt here

 

[Insanemaelstrom]

Am I the only person don't care about lesbian?
You guy don't like lesbian porn? Who give a fuck if she like women anyway?

Also, all the people complaining when they realise just how prevalent yuri is in Japanese media, lol.

 

[Topher]

So awful casting is acceptable because...Beyonetta exists?

Impressive mental gymnastics.

Doesn't even refer to anything I said so I'd say yours is the equivalent of a mental belly flop.

 

[T-0800]

So awful casting is acceptable because...Beyonetta exists?

Impressive mental gymnastics.

 

[Cakeboxer]

Sony taking the +5 body type 2 bonus on Metacritic to not end up with 83 Metascore again
I'm not an expert in japanese culture, will they have a problem with that or will they love the game as much as they loved GoT?

 

[sachos]

Listened to the music again coupled with that bar/inn scene. We are getting a Samurai Western boys.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

Doesn't even refer to anything I said so I'd say yours is the equivalent of a mental belly flop.

You suggested that we do lots of unbelievable stuff in other games so it's OK if we do it here.

As if art works like that...

Let me as you, if this game starred a 13 year old boy protagonist instead...would you be fine with that as well? If the actor playing Atreus (no magical powers) was just crushing hundreds of trained soldiers...you'd think that's fine in a somewhat grounded setting?

 

[Topher]

You suggested that we do lots of unbelievable stuff in other games so it's OK if we do it here.

As if art works like that...

Video games work like that.

Let me as you, if this game starred a 13 year old boy protagonist instead...would you be fine with that as well? If the actor playing Atreus (no magical powers) was just crushing hundreds of trained soldiers...you'd think that's fine in a somewhat grounded setting?

Appealing to extremes ain't an argument here. Jin shouldn't even have been able to do half the things he did in the first game. You are talking about a guy scaling mountains with a grappling hook. Nothing "grounded" about that. Doing the impossible is the crux of many games. Suddenly you have a problem with it?

I found this interesting....

Female samurai warriors, known as "onna-bugeisha," were a rare but remarkable phenomenon in medieval Japan. While the term "samurai" is often associated with male warriors, women in Japan also played significant roles in defending their families, homes, and honor during conflict. Here's a brief overview of female samurai warriors:

1. Tomoe Gozen: One of the most famous onna-bugeisha in Japanese history, Tomoe Gozen, lived during the late 12th century. She was a skilled warrior and a retainer of Minamoto no Yoshinaka, a samurai general during the Genpei War (1180-1185). Tomoe Gozen is said to have been a formidable archer and swordswoman who fought bravely in several battles.
2. Hangaku Gozen: Another notable female warrior from the Genpei War era, Hangaku Gozen, is known for her role in the Siege of Fukuryūji in 1189. She defended her family's fortress against the forces of Minamoto no Yoshitsune and demonstrated great courage and leadership.
3. Empress Jingu: While not a traditional samurai, Empress Jingu is legendary in Japanese history. According to folklore, she led a military expedition to Korea in the 3rd century CE, shortly after the death of her husband, Emperor Chūai. Her campaign is a prominent story in Japanese mythology, and she is often celebrated as a symbol of female strength and leadership.
4. Mochizuki Chiyome: During the 16th century, Mochizuki Chiyome is believed to have established a network of female spies and warriors, known as "kunoichi," to gather intelligence and support the Takeda clan. While she may not have engaged in combat, her role in espionage and her leadership in training other women to be spies and infiltrators are noteworthy.
5. Yamauchi Chiyo: Yamauchi Chiyo was a female warrior from the 16th century who fought alongside her husband, Tachibana Muneshige, in the service of the Ōtomo clan. She is remembered for her martial skills and bravery in battle.

Onna-Bugeisha, the Female Samurai Warriors (video) - Time to be United!

Female samurai warriors, known as “onna-bugeisha,” were a rare but remarkable phenomenon in medieval Japan. While the term “samurai” is often associated with male warriors, women in Japan also played significant roles in defending their families, homes, and honor during conflict. Here’s a brief...

www.kwunion.com

 

[DeepEnigma]

Sony taking the +5 body type 2 bonus on Metacritic to not end up with 83 Metascore again
I'm not an expert in japanese culture, will they have a problem with that or will they love the game as much as they loved GoT?

Their twitter and youtube personalities seem excited and hyped about it.

 

[The Chairman]

No body type 2 ass for you gamers

Also she will definitely be a lesbian.

 

[DeepEnigma]

So awful casting is acceptable because...Beyonetta exists?

Impressive mental gymnastics.

How do you go from nut hugging the gender neutral atrocities of Concord, to trying to bash this on the premise of "woke?"

 

[vaibhavpisal]

Is this gonna be cross gen?

 

[Setsuna Mudou]

I'm exhausted with having to play a female in such games, unless I change my mind by release date, I'm out.

 

[kunonabi]

what are the chances she has an actual male romance/love interest?

Slim, but as long she isn't cheating on her husband with the goddamn maid I'll consider it a win.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

How do you go from nut hugging the gender neutral atrocities of Concord, to trying to bash this on the premise of "woke?"

It's actually logical if you think about it.

Concord was 10x more fantastical and wasn't based on narrative. I just ran around a map with a floating gun on the right side of my screen trying to shoot opponents. It was also based on ranged weapons.

Ghost of Yeti is narrative focused and presents a far more grounded world. You're going to go into an establishment wearing your mask and heavy suit. You're going to listen to sexist men say and do bad stuff because they don't know you're woman. Then you're going to kung fu them with your muscle and superior reflexes as a 110lb female. Gag.

Again, would you be OK with a 13 year old boy as the protagonist instead? It's just as (un)believable.

 

[semiconscious]

Watch that ending again. It's like he farts blood

timestamped

hey, people want realism? there you go...

 

[CompleteGlobalSaturation]

Yet were practically lactating themselves over Neir and Stellar Ass. I'm confused.

It's because went from Jin to a female character. This just seems like a move to score diversity points IMO.

Besides amongst Sony first party games there seems to be a lack of male characters.

This probably sounds stupid but as a male I
prefer to play games with male characters.

On the same note I'd happily play Stellar Blade with female character (and I would expect ans hope the sequel also features rhe same female character).

 

[M.W.]

Looks mid.

But my PS5 needs games to play so maybe.

 

[Topher]

Again, would you be OK with a 13 year old boy as the protagonist instead? It's just as (un)believable.

No, it isn't

Female samurai warriors, known as "onna-bugeisha," were a rare but remarkable phenomenon in medieval Japan. While the term "samurai" is often associated with male warriors, women in Japan also played significant roles in defending their families, homes, and honor during conflict. Here's a brief overview of female samurai warriors:

1. Tomoe Gozen: One of the most famous onna-bugeisha in Japanese history, Tomoe Gozen, lived during the late 12th century. She was a skilled warrior and a retainer of Minamoto no Yoshinaka, a samurai general during the Genpei War (1180-1185). Tomoe Gozen is said to have been a formidable archer and swordswoman who fought bravely in several battles.
2. Hangaku Gozen: Another notable female warrior from the Genpei War era, Hangaku Gozen, is known for her role in the Siege of Fukuryūji in 1189. She defended her family's fortress against the forces of Minamoto no Yoshitsune and demonstrated great courage and leadership.
3. Empress Jingu: While not a traditional samurai, Empress Jingu is legendary in Japanese history. According to folklore, she led a military expedition to Korea in the 3rd century CE, shortly after the death of her husband, Emperor Chūai. Her campaign is a prominent story in Japanese mythology, and she is often celebrated as a symbol of female strength and leadership.
4. Mochizuki Chiyome: During the 16th century, Mochizuki Chiyome is believed to have established a network of female spies and warriors, known as "kunoichi," to gather intelligence and support the Takeda clan. While she may not have engaged in combat, her role in espionage and her leadership in training other women to be spies and infiltrators are noteworthy.
5. Yamauchi Chiyo: Yamauchi Chiyo was a female warrior from the 16th century who fought alongside her husband, Tachibana Muneshige, in the service of the Ōtomo clan. She is remembered for her martial skills and bravery in battle.

Onna-Bugeisha, the Female Samurai Warriors (video) - Time to be United!

Female samurai warriors, known as “onna-bugeisha,” were a rare but remarkable phenomenon in medieval Japan. While the term “samurai” is often associated with male warriors, women in Japan also played significant roles in defending their families, homes, and honor during conflict. Here’s a brief...

www.kwunion.com

 

[Kurotri]

Time to get a PS5

 

[Topher]

Is this gonna be cross gen?

No

 

[CompleteGlobalSaturation]

Of all Japanese actresses they could get, they chose this one. And people claim there's no agenda behind the MC...

Yikes. Any interest I had in this game is now gone.

Will not buy purely based on this.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

No, it isn't

Female samurai warriors, known as "onna-bugeisha," were a rare but remarkable phenomenon in medieval Japan. While the term "samurai" is often associated with male warriors, women in Japan also played significant roles in defending their families, homes, and honor during conflict. Here's a brief overview of female samurai warriors:

1. Tomoe Gozen: One of the most famous onna-bugeisha in Japanese history, Tomoe Gozen, lived during the late 12th century. She was a skilled warrior and a retainer of Minamoto no Yoshinaka, a samurai general during the Genpei War (1180-1185). Tomoe Gozen is said to have been a formidable archer and swordswoman who fought bravely in several battles.
2. Hangaku Gozen: Another notable female warrior from the Genpei War era, Hangaku Gozen, is known for her role in the Siege of Fukuryūji in 1189. She defended her family's fortress against the forces of Minamoto no Yoshitsune and demonstrated great courage and leadership.
3. Empress Jingu: While not a traditional samurai, Empress Jingu is legendary in Japanese history. According to folklore, she led a military expedition to Korea in the 3rd century CE, shortly after the death of her husband, Emperor Chūai. Her campaign is a prominent story in Japanese mythology, and she is often celebrated as a symbol of female strength and leadership.
4. Mochizuki Chiyome: During the 16th century, Mochizuki Chiyome is believed to have established a network of female spies and warriors, known as "kunoichi," to gather intelligence and support the Takeda clan. While she may not have engaged in combat, her role in espionage and her leadership in training other women to be spies and infiltrators are noteworthy.
5. Yamauchi Chiyo: Yamauchi Chiyo was a female warrior from the 16th century who fought alongside her husband, Tachibana Muneshige, in the service of the Ōtomo clan. She is remembered for her martial skills and bravery in battle.

Onna-Bugeisha, the Female Samurai Warriors (video) - Time to be United!

Female samurai warriors, known as “onna-bugeisha,” were a rare but remarkable phenomenon in medieval Japan. While the term “samurai” is often associated with male warriors, women in Japan also played significant roles in defending their families, homes, and honor during conflict. Here’s a brief...

www.kwunion.com

So again, if I showed you a list of histories legendary child warriors, would you be OK with a 13 year old boy protagonist in Ghost of Yeti?

 

[Cakeboxer]

No body type 2 ass for you gamers

Also she will definitely be a lesbian.

Thanks for sharing, With this new information i want to correct my predicted +5 Metacritic bonus to +8.

 

[hemo memo]

Yeah...
Of course it should be lgbtryipljg+ they/them

 

[Danteyke223]

Ghost of Tsushima was my second favorite PS4 game behind Bloodborne.

So sad to say I have zero interest in this sequel.

And yes, the female protag is the main reason for it. GoT is not a fantastical, mythical setting so playing as a female one man army requires too much suspension of disbelief for me.

That and Sony studios tend to make poor female protagonists, they usually end up boring overpowered Mary sues that are never at fault.

You do know the Japanese actually got wrecked on that Island like 99% of what occurrs in the game didnt happen?

 

[Raven117]

Cannot unhear it now, and that's not a bad thing.

it sure sounded awesome in the trailer. Hope they don't over due it.

Westerns and Samurai films are two sides of the same coin.

They definitely are. (See e.g. Magnificent 7 and 7 samurai). And they lend themselves to one another very well in terms of certain themes.

Flat out this looks great. As for the story…. They have big shoes to fill behind Jin's story. But hey… let's see where they go.

 

[The Chairman]

 

[sendit]

It's actually logical if you think about it.

Concord was 10x more fantastical and wasn't based on narrative. I just ran around a map with a floating gun on the right side of my screen trying to shoot opponents. It was also based on ranged weapons.

Ghost of Yeti is narrative focused and presents a far more grounded world. You're going to go into an establishment wearing your mask and heavy suit. You're going to listen to sexist men say and do bad stuff because they don't know you're woman. Then you're going to kung fu them with your muscle and superior reflexes as a 110lb female. Gag.

Again, would you be OK with a 13 year old boy as the protagonist instead? It's just as (un)believable.

Agreed. A grounded world like Ghost of Yeti needs to have 110lb women in the kitchen cooking ramen. Sucker Punch has gone full woke.

 

[sankt-Antonio]

Why does anyone care who the actress is? No one will be playing as her. She is playing the role.

What am I missing?

You are missing the bigger picture. A team of developers who choose to seek out a representative of a certain community will also make decisions to represent it in other aspects of the game. It's an indicator of what's to come. This is not by accident imo.

Whenever that is good or bad is everyone's personal opinion.

 

[Fess]

Smash the patriarchy!

 

[Topher]

So again, if I showed you a list of histories legendary child warriors, would you be OK with a 13 year old boy protagonist in Ghost of Yeti?

Show me the liat

 

[GnomeChimpsky]

Female protagonist means we will get an even shallower take on japanese culture this time. Yawn.

 

[The Chairman]

You are missing the bigger picture. A team of developers who choose to seek out a representative of a certain community will also make decisions to represent it in other aspects of the game. It's an indicator of what's to come. This is not by accident imo.

Whenever that is good or bad is everyone's personal opinion.

Yup, Sony could have chosen any beautiful feminine Japanese actress but they always choose a certain "type"

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

Agreed. A grounded world like Ghost of Yeti needs to have 110lb women in the kitchen cooking ramen. Sucker Punch has gone full woke.

Or, and hear me out, they could write her character based on her innate physical disadvantages rather than turn her into the strongest BRUTE on the island?

That would actually be interesting so they won't do it.

 

[EDMIX]

So again, if I showed you a list of histories legendary child warriors, would you be OK with a 13 year old boy protagonist in Ghost of Yeti?

I personally wouldn't care. This is a fictional work and it never actually makes any point of being some real life type thing.

Look at the child solders in MGSV

So...its fake. (and yes, I'm aware child solders exist in this country lol)

So I can't speak for Topher , but I'm personally ok even with the hypothetical you are saying. We don't actually NEED some real life refence for it to exist anymore then we don't need someone to tell us a female in real life killed 88 people with a samurai sword

 

[DeepEnigma]

It's actually logical if you think about it.

Concord was 10x more fantastical and wasn't based on narrative. I just ran around a map with a floating gun on the right side of my screen trying to shoot opponents. It was also based on ranged weapons.

Ghost of Yeti is narrative focused and presents a far more grounded world. You're going to go into an establishment wearing your mask and heavy suit. You're going to listen to sexist men say and do bad stuff because they don't know you're woman. Then you're going to kung fu them with your muscle and superior reflexes as a 110lb female. Gag.

Again, would you be OK with a 13 year old boy as the protagonist instead? It's just as (un)believable.

 

[_Idea_of_Evil_]

Characters like Bayonetta, Jeanne, 2B, A2, Samus, and Claire prove that games can have badass playable female characters.

I hope Sucker Punch delivers a solid female character lead in Yotai and don't fill the game with excess thematic elements or variations of dialogue along the lines of "you can't do ______, you're a WOMAN!" - "YES, I CAN!!!", or "SHE is the Ghost. SHE is strong. SHE will save the people".