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[nial]

The other thread was more of a joke one and it was weird to me that people weren't discussing this:

A full blown PS handheld is coming

Timing wise somewhere around PS6 launch

As per HeisenbergFX4 's own sources. I did not want to make this thread at first instance due to your low, under the radar profile, but since it already got all posted on Reddit...
Rumour supported by KeplerL2:

Rumor  Post in thread '[Grain of Salt] A full blown PlayStation handheld is coming somewhere around PS6 launch'

Jun 10, 2025

Supported by @KeplerL2

The handheld is coming at the same time or slightly later than the PS6.

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Previous rumors:

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Post in thread 'Do you agree with Chatgpt that PS6 portable can match the power of PS5 in all parameters by 2028?'

Mar 17, 2025

No, it's a 15W SoC on 3nm.

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Post in thread 'Do you agree with Chatgpt that PS6 portable can match the power of PS5 in all parameters by 2028?'

Apr 14, 2025

This is the first time you've acknowledged a handheld PlayStation SoC, or did I miss anything?

No, I mentioned it before a few times.

The latest high end iGPU from AMD the 8060s in the Ryzen AI MAX+ 395 is roughly 21% slower than the RX 6700 which is very close to the GPU of the PS5. This is still using RDNA 3.5, switch to RDNA 4 or UNDA might make up the performance difference at the same CU counts.

Strix Halo is not even a standard laptop APU, let alone a handheld APU.

Seeing Strix Halo at 15w made me wonder if Sony can repurpose PS6 chips with less usable CUs for the...

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Post in thread 'Do you agree with Chatgpt that PS6 portable can match the power of PS5 in all parameters by 2028?'

Apr 15, 2025

Thanks for clarifying! Do you know if this handheld is following the same schedule as PS6 (if following the aforementioned PS5 schedule) here? Thanks, once again.

It tapes out a few months after the regular PS6 SoC

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Post in thread 'Do you agree with Chatgpt that PS6 portable can match the power of PS5 in all parameters by 2028?'

Apr 20, 2025

Do the current-gen games need patches to run on it tho?

AFAIK it has shader binary compatibility so it should "just work" but performance may not be great without a patch.

• KeplerL2

 

[Plies]

 

[Adapting]

 

[Represent.]

hope it fails miserably

sony can barely support the PS5, fuck having 2 platforms to cater to. It would just water down games on the PS6. This is a FACT

 

[nial]

hope it fails miserably

sony can barely support the PS5, fuck having 2 platforms to cater to. It would just water down games on the PS6. This is a FACT

That's where I'll be playing Intergalactic: The Heretic Prophet.

 

[Wooxsvan]

lets goooo

 

[StereoVsn]

hope it fails miserably

sony can barely support the PS5, fuck having 2 platforms to cater to. It would just water down games on the PS6. This is a FACT

The point would be for handheld to run PS4/PS5/Cross-Gen games and probably stream PS6. There wouldn't be a need to have separate dev studios or games for it.

 

[EverydayBeast]

This is a company that has the PSP. Handhelds are easier than it looks, portables are no problem for Sony. Have your gaming portable worked on by the Bravia division and it's excellent screens, the Walkman division handle the sound and you have a sure success.

 

[CLW]

hope it fails miserably

sony can barely support the PS5, fuck having 2 platforms to cater to. It would just water down games on the PS6. This is a FACT

Why? Every ps6 game is going to be cross gen

 

[TGO]

Not being funny but this is not news.....we know

 

[Represent.]

The point would be for handheld to run PS4/PS5/Cross-Gen games and probably stream PS6. There wouldn't be a need to have separate dev studios or games for it.

Then we'd just get cross-gen trash for the entire gen.

No thanks, it's a disaster in the making.

100x worse than the Series S

 

[nial]

Not being funny but this is not news.....we know

If Reddit can discuss another GAF leak, so can GAF.

 

[TGO]

If Reddit can discuss another GAF leak, so can GAF.

the usual GAF>Internet>GAF I see.

 

[Bonfires Down]

 

[Shubh_C63]

So come PS6 launch a 549$ Console and a 399$ handheld ?
Well I guess people have been buying 1000$ graphic cards so maybe both the high price point system can have a market.

Maybe they release handheld in 2026 with PS6 being delayed to 2028.

hope it fails miserably

sony can barely support the PS5, fuck having 2 platforms to cater to. It would just water down games on the PS6. This is a FACT

How watered down could it be when third party games on Switch 2 or SteamDeck are working fine.

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

Round 2: Nintendo's days are numbered.

 

[kevboard]

hope it fails miserably

sony can barely support the PS5, fuck having 2 platforms to cater to. It would just water down games on the PS6. This is a FACT

so you're one of those who still thinks generational jumps that are in any way meaningful are still gonna be a thing lol.
PS6 games will look barely different than PS5 games... they will barely have any scope differences...
essentially, the cross gen period for the PS6 will most likely be 8+ years lol. even most PS5 games could still work on PS4 , the ones that can't usually can't because they use RT GI as a crutch to get easy results, but could be reworked with baked lighting and run on PS4 (Silent Hill 2 says hi).
this differentiating factor won't exist next gen. the PS5 has RT, and RT is very scalable... will drastically paired back RT quality look like ass? yes! but it already does in every fucking UE5 game, so people are clearly ok with it.

oh, speaking of UE5! UE5 will be another factor why PS6 games will probably always be able to be ported to PS5 and a new PS Handheld. it's literally designed for this use case, to be able to scale down to the lowest hardware (which is one of the reasons Lumen RT GI looks so dogshit)

 

[Guardian Monkey]

The other thread was more of a joke one and it was weird to me that people weren't discussing this:


As per HeisenbergFX4 's own sources. I did not want to make this thread at first instance due to your low, under the radar profile, but since it already got all posted on Reddit...
Previous rumors:

K

Post in thread 'Do you agree with Chatgpt that PS6 portable can match the power of PS5 in all parameters by 2028?'

Mar 17, 2025

No, it's a 15W SoC on 3nm.

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Post in thread 'Do you agree with Chatgpt that PS6 portable can match the power of PS5 in all parameters by 2028?'

Apr 14, 2025

This is the first time you've acknowledged a handheld PlayStation SoC, or did I miss anything?

No, I mentioned it before a few times.

The latest high end iGPU from AMD the 8060s in the Ryzen AI MAX+ 395 is roughly 21% slower than the RX 6700 which is very close to the GPU of the PS5. This is still using RDNA 3.5, switch to RDNA 4 or UNDA might make up the performance difference at the same CU counts.

Strix Halo is not even a standard laptop APU, let alone a handheld APU.

Seeing Strix Halo at 15w made me wonder if Sony can repurpose PS6 chips with less usable CUs for the...

• KeplerL2

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Post in thread 'Do you agree with Chatgpt that PS6 portable can match the power of PS5 in all parameters by 2028?'

Apr 15, 2025

Thanks for clarifying! Do you know if this handheld is following the same schedule as PS6 (if following the aforementioned PS5 schedule) here? Thanks, once again.

It tapes out a few months after the regular PS6 SoC

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Post in thread 'Do you agree with Chatgpt that PS6 portable can match the power of PS5 in all parameters by 2028?'

Apr 20, 2025

Do the current-gen games need patches to run on it tho?

AFAIK it has shader binary compatibility so it should "just work" but performance may not be great without a patch.

• KeplerL2

Thread '[Bloomberg] Sony Working on Handheld Console for PS5 Games to Rival Switch'

Nov 25, 2024

Sony Group Corp. is in the early stages of developing a portable console that would play its PlayStation 5 games on the move.

The product is aimed at expanding Sony's reach and contending with Nintendo Co. for the portable gaming market, according to people familiar with its development. It would also counter any potential mobile hardware from Xbox maker Microsoft Corp., which is working on prototypes in the category as well. Sony's portable device is likely years away from launch and the company could still decide against bringing it to market, the people said, asking not to be named...

• Topher
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because this was a topic last year

 

[LordOcidax]

Sony back to develop for two consoles…

 

[StereoVsn]

Then we'd just get cross-gen trash for the entire gen.

No thanks, it's a disaster in the making.

100x worse than the Series S

It's going to be for folks who want PS4/PS5 and PS6 Streaming on the go. There are plenty of folks who would want that. It's not like it will be mandatory.

What do you expect, PS6 equivalent in mobile?

 

[Represent.]

It's going to be for folks who want PS4/PS5 and PS6 Streaming on the go. There are plenty of folks who would want that. It's not like it will be mandatory.

What do you expect, PS6 equivalent in mobile?

I know what its for, im telling you it will take away from the main console. this is guaranteed to happen. before Series S launched I said it would also happen and I was also laughed at.

 

[bender]

It will sell 100M the first year if it launches with a Everybody's Golf game made by Clap Hanz.

 

[nial]

It will sell 100M the first year if it launches with a Everybody's Golf game made by Clap Hanz.

It should follow the tradition of PlayStation handhelds launching with Minna no Golf games.

 

[bender]

It should follow the tradition of PlayStation handhelds launching with Minna no Golf games.

...by Clap Hanz. Otherwise this will be lucky to break 150 units lifetime.

 

[Deerock71]

Oh, okay, so Sony is going to try to conquer two realms with Un-re-Csharted Reflux-Remix-Resuplex--ted editions while they roll out a PS6 with Csexharted-8Xed-Reflux-Retread-Resuplex--tarded editions?

 

[poppabk]

I saw on reddit that some insider has confirmed this to be 100% accurate.

 

[ZehDon]

The Steam Deck has shown what this kind of handheld needs to be, and I don't see Sony making anything like that, frankly. After the PS Vita - a wonderful piece of kit left to die by Sony - I'm sure they're working hard to ensure games work on it natively, or at least invisibly to the end user, so they don't have support two platforms. But I wouldn't touch a closed platform handheld from anyone but Nintendo, frankly. If I buy another of these kinds of "big handhelds", it'll need to be as open as the Steam Deck, or I'll just wait for the next Steam Deck. Same goes for Microsoft's handheld, too. I'm not going back to having to fucking jailbreak my handhelds to actually get some use out of them because they decide to drop support the day after its released.

 

[GateofD]

hasn't sony learned anything from the vita and psp, nintendo owns the space

 

[FalconPunch]

After being burned with the ps vita, psvr, and psvr 2, it's hard to give Sony the benefit of the doubt when it comes to their ability/desire to support a secondary system.

 

[Unknown?]

Then we'd just get cross-gen trash for the entire gen.

No thanks, it's a disaster in the making.

100x worse than the Series S

Now you know how PC gamers feel.

 

[Buggy Loop]

hope it fails miserably

sony can barely support the PS5, fuck having 2 platforms to cater to. It would just water down games on the PS6. This is a FACT

PSVR 2 is at the bottom of the pool too while Sony barely holds PS5 above water

 

[Geometric-Crusher]

I'm IN

 

[Fess]

hope it fails miserably

sony can barely support the PS5, fuck having 2 platforms to cater to. It would just water down games on the PS6. This is a FACT

When has that ever happened? The problem with Sony and secondary platforms (PSP,Vita,PSVR,PSVR2) has always been that they aren't supporting the secondary platform enough, they're there at launch but then mostly leave them for third party devs to take care of, I've never seen a secondary platform affect the main platform.

 

[Loomy]

Human centipede lol

 

[Loomy]

Then we'd just get cross-gen trash for the entire gen.

No thanks, it's a disaster in the making.

100x worse than the Series S

Cross gen is here to stay. And that's a good thing.

 

[Represent.]

Cross gen is here to stay. And that's a good thing.

it is not a good thing, it holds games back, limits ambition, and we get nothing but the same old, all gen.. its terrible in every way except for more money for the publishers

 

[Syphon Filter]

no need for more handhelds, it wont be a dedicated one so dont bother.

 

[Geometric-Crusher]

The point would be for handheld to run PS4/PS5/Cross-Gen games and probably stream PS6. There wouldn't be a need to have separate dev studios or games for it.

The history of the gaming market shows that all devices that only ran games from one console, without their own exclusives, failed.

Sony makes the new PSP or nothing

 

[Loomy]

it is not a good thing, it holds games back, limits ambition, and we get nothing but the same old, all gen.. its terrible in every way except for more money for the publishers

At one point - yes. But we're getting to the point where the differences are not revolutionary, and that's not because they're being held back.

Horizon Forbidden West is a cross gen game at launch and it's still one of the best looking Playstation games.

I also don't think technology dictates ambition.

 

[Crayon]

3 year cross gen period was just a preview. It takes some fun out of things. But it makes sense with the way technology has been going.

The gpus are really expensive now, but if you spend a grand on one of these things you might be able to use it for years and years because its going to be a long time till most people can afford that performance.

PS5 could be the baseline most of the way through PS6. Spooky.

 

[ProtoByte]

Horizon Forbidden West is a cross gen game at launch and it's still one of the best looking Playstation games.

Best looking, yes. Best playing, at least towards its potential? No.
Despite being a crossgen game, there were certain mechanics that had to almost certainly had be stalled on the design level (destruction, AI, traversal speed with the flying, etc) to account for the PS4's specs. So much so that the DLC for the game was next-gen only.

There's no doubt that devs are just not pushing themselves as much on the design level right now even with current gen games - though how much Digital Foundry's explanation about shifting from baked to the real-time rendering puts how much that's the case up in the air - but it's not going to get any better if they're given the opportunity/mandate to make games for decade+ year old hardware.

Incrementalism and development for a range of specs is not for console dev, it's for PC dev, and it clearly causes bottlenecks and problems. Guaranteed, as you've already seen this gen, PS first party games are not going to reach the high they were hitting in the late PS3 to PS4 period.

 

[TrebleShot]

It would be cool if they did a switch type PS6 where its a handheld but if you dock it , it unlocks more power for TV use.

Sort of like a eGPU type thing.

Imagine the battery life on this thingbwill be terrible either way especially if they are looking to utilise haptic etc .

 

[yogaflame]

I'm interested. I hope it still has the features of Ps5 portal.

 

[Felessan]

Despite being a crossgen game, there were certain mechanics that had to almost certainly had be stalled on the design level (destruction, AI, traversal speed with the flying, etc) to account for the PS4's specs. So much so that the DLC for the game was next-gen only.

We most probably will not get a tech that improves things in a way that will bottleneck PS5, like SSD was for PS4. There will be just more power to graphics, and that scales much easier back to previous gen.

 

[@gkTH]

The firmware update no longer makes the PS5 stable.

 

[gtabro]

The point would be for handheld to run PS4/PS5/Cross-Gen games and probably stream PS6. There wouldn't be a need to have separate dev studios or games for it.

Love your fantasies man <3
Running PS5 games and having a 20-minute battery life sounds like the dream

0% chance kit will run PS5 games, PS4 only if they are scuffed blurry 720p at best versions of the games but doubt it too.

 

[nial]

After being burned with the ps vita, psvr, and psvr 2, it's hard to give Sony the benefit of the doubt when it comes to their ability/desire to support a secondary system.

This will have every first-party game from November 2027 onwards due to 1.- game engines being very scalable these days and 2.- better graphical fidelity than the likes of Horizon Forbidden West, a cross gen title, not being needed anymore.

 

[Ramiro_Rodriguez]

There wouldn't be a need to have separate dev studios or games for it.

But how many Playstation Fans, who owned a PS4 and PS5, are willing to play the old games again on a ps handheld?
Didn't the Vita failed because of the lack of new and exclusive games and also because the most games were mostly designed like "big PS3 games"?

 

[Cakeboxer]

But how many Playstation Fans, who owned a PS4 and PS5, are willing to play the old games again on a ps handheld?

You could ask the same about Sony's >9000 remasters. Enough to to be worth it.

 

[nial]

But how many Playstation Fans, who owned a PS4 and PS5, are willing to play the old games again on a ps handheld?
Didn't the Vita failed because of the lack of new and exclusive games and also because the most games were mostly designed like "big PS3 games"?

Many, probably. PlayStation is third-party driven and all the evergreens series (Fortnite, COD, FIFA, Genshin Impact) will be available on it.
Also:

This will have every first-party game from November 2027 onwards due to 1.- game engines being very scalable these days and 2.- better graphical fidelity than the likes of Horizon Forbidden West, a cross gen title, not being needed anymore.

It shares the same architecture as the PS6 home console.