GHG
Gold Member
Not officially, no. Although there is a patch available for modded PS4 consoles which unlocks the framerate.
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GTA VI should only run at 30fps on PS5 Pro, says Digital Foundry
Not officially, no. Although there is a patch available for modded PS4 consoles which unlocks the framerate.
Saber
Member
GoldenEye98
posts news as their odd job
tbh sometimes Xbox One X had worse performance than PS4 Pro because of the even larger gap between the CPU and GPU and trying to render at a higher level
makes you wonder what might happen with PS5 Pro with no CPU changes at all. fps could theoretically dip if it's trying to render a lot more in cpu-intense areas.
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GHG
Gold Member
That I don't disagree with.
They could have given consoles (even the last gen refresh consoles) a 60fps patch for RDR2 but for some bizarre reason they haven't.
FPS is finally unlocked in Red Dead Redemption 2 on PlayStation 4 Pro via mod
The modder with the unlock.Modder illusion0001 known for his works for jailbreaked version of Sony consoles developed an unofficial patch for Red Dead Redemption 2. This mod allows to play the game in
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DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Agreed. If anything, truthfully, it would be a monetary reason on the backend, not a technical one.
Need that remaster for PS6, after all.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
This is whyThat I don't disagree with.
They could have given consoles (even the last gen refresh consoles) a 60fps patch for RDR2 but for some bizarre reason they haven't.
FPS is finally unlocked in Red Dead Redemption 2 on PlayStation 4 Pro via mod
The modder with the unlock.Modder illusion0001 known for his works for jailbreaked version of Sony consoles developed an unofficial patch for Red Dead Redemption 2. This mod allows to play the game in
Here's What Take Two's CEO Says About Remakes And Remasters Now - Gameranx
Take Two CEO Strauss Zelnick now takes a slightly different tack when it comes to remakes and remasters compared to 2 years ago.
gameranx.com
That strategy being,
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
That I don't disagree with.
They could have given consoles (even the last gen refresh consoles) a 60fps patch for RDR2 but for some bizarre reason they haven't.
FPS is finally unlocked in Red Dead Redemption 2 on PlayStation 4 Pro via mod
The modder with the unlock.Modder illusion0001 known for his works for jailbreaked version of Sony consoles developed an unofficial patch for Red Dead Redemption 2. This mod allows to play the game in
Why patch it when they will sell it to you for $79.99 next gen.
PaintTinJr
Member
What? Like Cerny announcing that 3/4 of all PlayStation gamers are choosing performance frame-rate mode over fidelity?
Is it logical to assume the words Cerny said about creators needing more performance for their visions (paraphrasing obviously) and the trifecta of features in the Pro to help deliver higher fidelity with performance wasn't in reference to PlayStation's most important 3rd party creator R*, also?
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adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Cerny said the intention was to bridge the gap between performance and fidelity modes. Which is what a stronger GPU and AI-upscaling affords them to do.
huh ?
If it was in reference to 'their most important 3rd party creator', they would have mentioned them there, or included GTA VI in the list of games that will for sure get PS5 Pro enhancements that they put out afterward.
You're not making any sense.
People lining up to buy GTA6 on the next 4 console generations
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mayham2199
Member
It might not be 60 FPS but there's no way that they don't have a performance mode it's pretty much standard now.
PaintTinJr
Member
Which then means Fidelity at PS5 or better, with performance frame-rate, no? An implied at 60fps always on Pro from those words 'bridge the gap'?
Sorry, I meant to add ',also ' after R* like I've now edited. Meaning the trifecta of things applies to all publishers software including R*, no? Meaning it is far more logical to assume performance mode or frame-gen for GTA6 than not.
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Topher
Gold Member
This is why
Here's What Take Two's CEO Says About Remakes And Remasters Now - Gameranx
Take Two CEO Strauss Zelnick now takes a slightly different tack when it comes to remakes and remasters compared to 2 years ago.
That strategy being,
Huh......you mean having a precedent could have absolutely nothing to do with the tech?
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Huh......you mean having a precedent could have absolutely nothing to do with the tech?
They don't have to spend extra dev time, resources on it and can just use next gen horsepower to brute force it while charging you full price again.
Topher
Gold Member
They don't have to spend extra dev time, resources on it and can just use next gen horsepower to brute force it while charging you full price again.
Makes DF's musings on this hilariously irrelevant, to be honest.
sendit
Member
This will be something to look back (laugh) at if the GTA6 offers a performance mode on the base console. At this point in this generation, most triple A titles are offering performance modes.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
It very well could. I'm just saying I don't see R* as the kind of dev who does multiple modes if it means having to do a stripped down presentation on one.
sendit
Member
Not necessarily. The intent is to remove this option (performance or fidelity) for games that have this which means adding a third option (Pro), that bridges the two together.
The most disappointing thing to come out of the PS5 Pro Presentation is the lack of a native Frame Generation solution. Huge miss IMO. The Lossless Scaling (frame gen) developer needs to be given a blank check from Sony.
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PaintTinJr
Member
Which based on the numbers (75% of 50M console buyers want 60fps and would like a Pro, even if probably less than half buy) dropping performance mode from base PS5 games and doing them at 60fps on the Pro then drives Pro sales incentive and PS6 sales later too IMO.
Either way DF are either trying to downplay the Pro, or have just brain farted their poor reasoning for this one/
Physiognomonics
Member
Hold on your horses Snake. 3-4x more powerful than jaguar is the accepted number. Which is already a lot for a CPU. This is the reason all games (bar a handful) run at 60fps on PS5.
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Negotiator101
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AtomicStarving
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Fess
Member
RDR2 ran at 60fps on Stadia, so don’t rule it out, if they can get GTA6 running at 30fps on Series S there should be some headroom for PS5 Pro.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Richard did some tests that ive posted here before. And he was testing using 3.2, not the 3.5 Ghz we ended up getting.
Just looking at the specs ignoring all the zen 2 IPC gains, you have 2x more threads running at 2.2x more speeds. Right off the bat, you are at over 4x already. its not surprising that there would be more power available switching over from the crappy jaguar architecture to zen 2.
The real problem is proper multithreading and utilizing each thread without having them wait on each other. almost no PC games do this well. but things are getting better. Epic has already made substantial upgrades to the UE5 engine getting almost an 80% increase in the Matrix Awakens demo on the zen 2 cpu included in the XSX console. if Epic can find 80% more performance from the same shitty CPUs included in consoles then Rockstar devs can as well.
Preseznik
Neo Member
That's the point, the CPU is a known quantity. There's no guessing.
The only variable is how paired down an experience they're willing to put out to hit 60.
Everything is *possible*, though only to a point where they don't feel like it's the game they envisioned.
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Crayon
Member
It definitely is, but the game itself is not. We saw shitloads of character on screen with amazing animation, but we don't know how many cycles that all takes or even if the final game is going to reach quite that level. Without getting to see recommended pc specs, I won't be confident either way until rockstar just comes out and says it. It could break either way. Actually I'd be inclined to believe some solid leakers, too. DF though? Ha.
ah. Now i understand why so many of you are upset over this non-issue.
Why would any of that be of any benefit or relevance to Rockstar? Nobody's going to skip GTA 6 over 30fps, and it's no real benefit to them if it drives Pro sales.
Why would you think an assumption about CPU requirements for GTA 6 is 'downplaying the Pro' in any way?
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
As if this is from the devs themselves. Let the devs push the high fidelity at 30 or push even higher 60 in a perf mode. It will not hurt you and your important life. And I will be ok too. When that game comes out, those of us with a Pro will enjoy it a little more. People will have to get through these trying times. Maybe make a Discord support group of a local AA. I know some good places in California, Michigan, and Florida. If you leave my name you can get a good discount. Just make sure they are not booked because there's things like bingo night and some city meetings. They are always upgrading the facilities as well.
Sw0pDiller
Member
So, if the game runs 1080@60 fps and pssr makes it 4K the system is a miracle? That does not seem out of the pro’s league.
TGO
Hype Train conductor. Works harder than it steams.
Well they haven't officially announced specs so he shouldn't be saying anything yet, whether it's true or not.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
DLSS does this all the time and PSSR seems comparable tech, so why all the hyperbole from them?
PaintTinJr
Member
Because it then gives them an easy solution to do a paid remastered PS6 version that is even better.
NickFire
Member
I'll need official confirmation from R before I even feel confident there will be any upgrades for the Pro. My doubt has nothing to do with the Pro. Between the lack of a 60 fps patch for RDR2, and the removal of the auction house in 2k24 (sister company I think), I just have trouble believing R will do anything extra they can't charge extra for.
PaintTinJr
Member
I'm guessing because their Nvidia sponsor foresees the Pro as far more competition for it s 4060-4080 lineup of GPUs and beyond for the new DF led Nvidia consumer and they probably know that a Pro at £800 is a big chunk of spend potentially taking £1100-1500 new PC buyers out of buying both eventually and just falling back to console.
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Skifi28
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Are you experiencing some sort of malfunction or is posting this in every thread part of your contract? I'm genuinely interested to know.
Negotiator101
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CloudShiner
Member
I understand that any game released for PS5 from now onwards HAS to include enhancements for the Pro, so R* won't have any choice.
Skifi28
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NickFire
Member
I have the same understanding as you. But I do not see any scenario where Sony refuses to certify it over that rule if Rockstar ignores it.
Lucifers Beard
Member
Absolutely, regardless of the framerate it will be the best looking version of the game available until the PC version drops, or Microsoft pull a mid gen refresh out of their ass (which is almost certainly not going to happen).
sendit
Member
Microsoft can not in good faith release a mid gen refresh. They’re more than capable of it and have the financials to do so. However, they screwed themselves over by releasing the Series S and acting like the Series X was the mid-gen/pro model.
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Rocco Schiavone
Member
Yeah but unplayable on OLED.
Balducci30
Member
I fully buy it will be 30, judging from the last 4 years - I don’t see how these consoles are even capable of the visuals we got in the trailer with the hair physics, ray tracing and all the simulations going on in an open world without serious compromises to image quality and framerate.