Frodan was so brutal on the reveal of purify https://www.twitch.tv/playhearthstone/v/82013812?t=04m17s
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You have to think there might just be an issue that Priest, if given too much help to get to the late game, is way too powerful and Blizzard testing has shown this. Might not be true but it would explain their reticence.
Karsticles
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I'm super excited to play against Muster for Dragons.
FormallyFamicom
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WOW Priest got absolutely shitted on by Blizzard. Awful cards, and even worse rarities for Arena purposes. That Purify card is about as bad as Bolster!
irfaanator
Banned
the thing is what would you even replace those priest cards for in a traditional control priest deck? the new 4 mana for shifting shades but that just makes your nzoth weaker. The 6 mana 3/4 is just a shit card for it's mana and like that is card when you're ahead I doubt majority of the time will you ever resurrect anything good when you're behind w/ that card that'll save you. The 2 mana self silence for the gimmick ancient watcher eerier statue nonsense deck.
Honestly looks like dragon priest might be the most viable deck coming post expansion. Even the neutral cards look better in a priest deck than the priest cards
Honestly looks like dragon priest might be the most viable deck coming post expansion. Even the neutral cards look better in a priest deck than the priest cards
paladin got dr.2? pretty good.
rogue 1 drop seems alright, more playable than huckster. there are some ways not to lose loads of hp too now, there are some things to experiment with. That 3 drop though, talk about SLOW. The weapon cost 3 too, lol.
Looks like an ok set but not too impressive.
rogue 1 drop seems alright, more playable than huckster. there are some ways not to lose loads of hp too now, there are some things to experiment with. That 3 drop though, talk about SLOW. The weapon cost 3 too, lol.
Looks like an ok set but not too impressive.
BananasWithGuns
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I am not surprised by the lack of help for Priest. Odds are a lot of these cards were finalized a while ago and the real uproar about Priest is still fairly recent. I'd expect Priest to get some help in November or whenever the next expansion drops.
irfaanator
Banned
it's dr 3 but still really good
Mobius and pet octopus
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So my thoughts on the rogue cards.
Maybe Rogue is good enough to play a midrange style?
Lets give this a gander:
It now has 2 one drops. Blade cultist + new guy (swashbuckler?).
2 two drops. The fork and huckster. That fork seems kinda amazing, even with the 3 cost on the weapon you get. In fact, fills your mana curve for what it's worth.
3 of those cards help fuel rogue's later turns, helping with the card velocity rogues could run into if opponent's simply dealt with their minions.
The 3 drop neutral that makes you immune on your turn... helps with rogue's sustain issue. Lets you gain tempo value off your weapons without killing you as a result at least.
I feel like those cards alone really give a reason to run a tempo or midrange rogue. Dark peddler is potentially a really good card, as discussed before, and because of the 1 drop just revealed.
Anyway, splitting headache so I can't continue this post further.
Maybe Rogue is good enough to play a midrange style?
Lets give this a gander:
It now has 2 one drops. Blade cultist + new guy (swashbuckler?).
2 two drops. The fork and huckster. That fork seems kinda amazing, even with the 3 cost on the weapon you get. In fact, fills your mana curve for what it's worth.
3 of those cards help fuel rogue's later turns, helping with the card velocity rogues could run into if opponent's simply dealt with their minions.
The 3 drop neutral that makes you immune on your turn... helps with rogue's sustain issue. Lets you gain tempo value off your weapons without killing you as a result at least.
I feel like those cards alone really give a reason to run a tempo or midrange rogue. Dark peddler is potentially a really good card, as discussed before, and because of the 1 drop just revealed.
Anyway, splitting headache so I can't continue this post further.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Hmmm okay, still seems quite good.
Officerrob
Banned
Paying 3 mana for a 3/2 so you can then pay 3 mana for a 3/2 weapon is BAD
irfaanator
Banned
thought it was 6 mana but it's 5. still objectively worse than darkshire alchemist in that slot
I'm going to build a midrange paly and this guy is my quartermaster 
I don't know, 3 mana 3/2 to get a 3 cost weapon seemsbad and too slow, just play deadly poison. ok arena card though.
I don't know, 3 mana 3/2 to get a 3 cost weapon seemsbad and too slow, just play deadly poison. ok arena card though.
Officerrob
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I think Beast Druid will be a thing, and Menagerie Warden will be very strong
Turn 5, Stranglethorn Tiger -> Turn 6 Menagerie Warden and another Stranglethorn Tiger.
Much value!
irfaanator
Banned
Just my basic analysis.
so paladin got some nice cards, hunter made out like a bandit, druid made out like a bandit, mage seemed to get some boosts, rogue seemed to get alright cards for control (?) idk dont play the class, shaman seemed to also get some cards for the control variant (?) again idk, idk about warlock either. Priest gets shafted/worse than before.
Havent really looked at all the neutral cards yet
so paladin got some nice cards, hunter made out like a bandit, druid made out like a bandit, mage seemed to get some boosts, rogue seemed to get alright cards for control (?) idk dont play the class, shaman seemed to also get some cards for the control variant (?) again idk, idk about warlock either. Priest gets shafted/worse than before.
Havent really looked at all the neutral cards yet
irfaanator
Banned
so is arcanos smith a better or worse version of senjin? it feels like worse since the 3 dmg from senjin goes to every minion that attacks it while the arcanos will probably only hit 1 mininon w/ the 3 dmg
Warden seem stupid af
Stealth beast druid into savage roar incoming
we get a sign Shaman can be good with TGT and LOE
We not seeing any jack for priest yet
Stealth beast druid into savage roar incoming
we get a sign Shaman can be good with TGT and LOE
We not seeing any jack for priest yet
Officerrob
Banned
I thought they were delaying showing Priest because they had some good cards to show, I should have known better..
Purify? I mean really?
Purify? I mean really?
So Innkeeper gets a buff.
Eh.... I'm not convinced it's that bad. It's kind of like drawing a Deadly Poison that can't stack. A 3 mana 3/2 with deathrattle draw deadly poison seems okay, right?
They got a common that was 2 mana silence a friendly minion and draw a card, lol
Mobius and pet octopus
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Some decks cut deadly poison, plus this one is a deathrattle for n'zoth and deadly poison of course stacks with it. At worst it's still giving you a decent body, and then a 3 mana fireball.
My midrange was just up against a lock & load hunter in ranked. not bragging I didnt use any exceptional skill. Just using a typical standard mid range deck & didnt even get all the mulligans I wanted. but freaked me out this guy concedes before turn 10. I didnt even get to play Call of the Wild.
And I knew he had Yogg Saron cause when I played King Elek it revealed his yogg card. This made me kinda lol. I grew even more desperate to kill him before turn 10 when I saw that
And I knew he had Yogg Saron cause when I played King Elek it revealed his yogg card. This made me kinda lol. I grew even more desperate to kill him before turn 10 when I saw that
irfaanator
Banned
for some reason I thought that rogue minion equipped a 3/2 weapon, didn't realize it was put one in your hand.
Randomizer123454444
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As a priest main, I really wish I could be excited about the cards but... I just can't. And this is a disheartening trend with priest. Over and over, we get some trick cards that look cool in theory but don't work past rank 15. Confuse, Convert, Resurrect, Shadowfiend, Shadow Word: Horror.. the list goes on and on.There have been some good cards like entomb, but very few compared to the "gimmick fun" cards.
I can't see the situation improving in the next card set, the trend has been too strong and has gone for too long.
I can't see the situation improving in the next card set, the trend has been too strong and has gone for too long.
I just watched that Frodan reaction, :lol
Kripp is just starting to review the cards I see. Gonna see what's up, well other than he can't fucking pronounce "menagerie".
Edit: Cloaked Huntress... OK, I'm done. Fuck this game, I'm out. Fucking hate secrets man, but free secrets are a blight on this game.
If it allows you to choose what dead minion to resurrect, then it will see some play with the few priests that still roam. Though, I wonder how the selection will look like after a long match with tons of dead minions.
I think warrior and druid got the best cards and paladin did okish too.
Hunter meh, shaman has some spellpower synergy now, it could have potential, doesn't seem too good, the board clear with spellpower is alright, it's a strictly better arcane explosion, it would have been cool if you got a 2 drop with spell power.
Warlock discard cards remain to be seen how good it is compared with zoo.
Mage... eh, seems like things won't get any better for Jaina. Rogue 1 drop seems ok to me, I don't think other 2 are very good.
Priest LUL.
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damn, why this sucks so much, lol
If you look it that way for end game damage against control warrior when you run out of sutff it seems better but I'm not sure how relevant that's going to be. If they nerfed flurry to open design space for better rogue weapons, well this is not it
Hunter meh, shaman has some spellpower synergy now, it could have potential, doesn't seem too good, the board clear with spellpower is alright, it's a strictly better arcane explosion, it would have been cool if you got a 2 drop with spell power.
Warlock discard cards remain to be seen how good it is compared with zoo.
Mage... eh, seems like things won't get any better for Jaina. Rogue 1 drop seems ok to me, I don't think other 2 are very good.
Priest LUL.
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damn, why this sucks so much, lol
If you look it that way for end game damage against control warrior when you run out of sutff it seems better but I'm not sure how relevant that's going to be. If they nerfed flurry to open design space for better rogue weapons, well this is not it
Infernodash
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Jesus Christ what a fucking shit show for priest. A self silence card? Oh my god. Who the fuck needs a self silence card? I'm done with this game. Blizzard is shit.
LOK plays a 5 mana 3/4 weapon in Tempo Rogue and it works well there. This should work in that deck.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Okay so
It's kinda like forgotten torch except the front half is a 3/2 body and you don't need to draw the fireball, it goes right towards to your hand and it's a weapon instead of spell. I remember people thought forgotten torch would be bad too. I feel like this is kind of a minion/weapon version of that.
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Novel Mike
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See that would have actually made that card really good.
Still don't understand the over nerf of Blade Flurry though, expected a really great weapon back when Old Gods came out and now with Kara still jack shit. Like WTH Blizzard
Officerrob
Banned
LOL @ Kripp trying to understand Purify's existance
I might try to push past rank 15 this month to see if I go up against any priests. I just dont do ranked that often. I usually just play til my 'win streak' ends.
Ranked appears to get easier every month I feel like my Hunter / Zoo / Shaman have a bright future.
But priest..... They seem kinda lame with all their removals.
seems pretty good with each other.
should be a 1 cost that says " silence a minion, if it's a friendly minion. draw a card.
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