How does it fare against aggro shammy and dragon warrior? I used to play a form of this deck minus Barnes and a few others before kara but I would tend to get rolled by any aggressive tempo decks cause health would be too low before you stabilized.
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How does it fare against aggro shammy and dragon warrior? I used to play a form of this deck minus Barnes and a few others before kara but I would tend to get rolled by any aggressive tempo decks cause health would be too low before you stabilized.
Token Druid still rekt these hunter ez
https://hsreplay.net/replay/R3reYrnZhDRPK978CCDXr9
https://hsreplay.net/replay/R3reYrnZhDRPK978CCDXr9
Wouldn't Renolock/Handlock also beat this deck? Like outside of 2 Executes what does it have to deal with large threats? And once Patrons are cleared... what does it even do? Just cycle through entire deck and hope to discount Arcane Giants quicker before the deck gets pulverized by the opponent's minions?
Being afraid to tier 3 deck is a joke reason to not run a deck tho. Kappa
I am not saying don't run the deck, I am wondering how the deck functions and what its strengths and weaknesses are.
Like I see how it matches up against aggro, just uses a lot of cheap spells and Grim Patrons to hold off against the aggression/smaller minions. That just naturally feeds into the game plan of this deck.
But what happens when the opponent starts playing larger minions that don't die to Patrons/Executes and they have board clears to deal with Patrons? What if they have large taunts in play and you have run out of Executes/Patrons? This is not just a Handlock exclusive feature either.
Remember that Handlock/Renolock was one of the best decks against the original Grim Patron deck (and also the later version of the deck). As was Control Warrior.
BananasWithGuns
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Hunter. Hunter. Hunter. Hunter. Hunter. Hunter. Hunter.
Edit: Oh hey cool a Druid. Turn 1 Coin + Innverate + Fandral. Turn 2 Druid of the Saber. Turn 3 Living Roots + Power of the Wild.
Okay.
Edit: Oh hey cool a Druid. Turn 1 Coin + Innverate + Fandral. Turn 2 Druid of the Saber. Turn 3 Living Roots + Power of the Wild.
Okay.
patron is back, thats for sure. Giants fit perfectly in that deck, you dont even have to cut much and have a second win condition.
Patrons are a threat in itself and at some point you combo for up to 24 damage. I hope this deck finds a counter or it will be all over the ladder.
Patrons are a threat in itself and at some point you combo for up to 24 damage. I hope this deck finds a counter or it will be all over the ladder.
I forgot how many of these decks have no answer to Grim Patron itself.
Dragon Warrior, Aggro Shaman (unless they roll spell damage Totem like the scumbags they are), Hunters, Zoo... none of them can do anything about Grim Patron. Druids have always struggled against Patrons anyway.
Against some Control decks you have the OTK Giant option.
Right now this deck feels around tier 2 good at least. You can still get run over by aggressive decks with good draw vs your bad draw though.
Arcane Giant, double Inner Rage, Charge, Faceless.
Though Patrons had already softened her up.
The Giants have two massive advantages over Worgen. 1) You actually don't need to run Emperor Thaurissan in this deck. It's nice but not a requirement now. 2) The giants can be played as a late game tempo play to finish the game early if you have the read on the opponent without Charge. It's way harder to do that with Worgens. Two 0 mana giants can end the game against these aggressive/midrange decks once they have been softened up by the Patrons.
Dragon Warrior, Aggro Shaman (unless they roll spell damage Totem like the scumbags they are), Hunters, Zoo... none of them can do anything about Grim Patron. Druids have always struggled against Patrons anyway.
Against some Control decks you have the OTK Giant option.
Right now this deck feels around tier 2 good at least. You can still get run over by aggressive decks with good draw vs your bad draw though.
I hit a Rogue for 28 damage.
Arcane Giant, double Inner Rage, Charge, Faceless.
Though Patrons had already softened her up.
The Giants have two massive advantages over Worgen. 1) You actually don't need to run Emperor Thaurissan in this deck. It's nice but not a requirement now. 2) The giants can be played as a late game tempo play to finish the game early if you have the read on the opponent without Charge. It's way harder to do that with Worgens. Two 0 mana giants can end the game against these aggressive/midrange decks once they have been softened up by the Patrons.
I'm really trying hard to fit blood warriors in there. picking up patrons or additional arcane giants really helps out that situation.
This is my list:
Other lists have one Blood of Ichor instead of Emperor. I like Emperor as something that makes it easier to string together stuff even though it's not required anymore.
BananasWithGuns
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Tried out that Arcane Warrior deck before bed and won 2 out of 3. Seems like a pretty solid deck but I got absolutely massacred by a Hunter who ended up with lethal on turn 5. Nothing I could have done I guess.
Edit: Here's a thought. Between Fiery Bat, Huge Toad, Kindly Grandmother, Infested Wolf and Savannah Highmane...is Forlorn Stalker just good enough now?
Edit: Here's a thought. Between Fiery Bat, Huge Toad, Kindly Grandmother, Infested Wolf and Savannah Highmane...is Forlorn Stalker just good enough now?
OH COME ON CAN I PLEASE BARNES SOMETHING OTHER THAN HOUNDMASTER
Probably not, there's still much better on 3.
Probably not, there's still much better on 3.
Can do 31 from hand without Emperor.
This is my list:
Other lists have one Blood of Ichor instead of Emperor. I like Emperor as something that makes it easier to string together stuff even though it's not required anymore.
Thanks. Need to do a little refinements since I don't have Commanding Shout. Don't feel like crafting them so replaced them with Gnomish Inventor. Since the Wild Pyro synergy is missing now I cut one for Grom. Only need 200 gold for the next wing now.
This brawl needs an emote that says "Don't waste the fucking buffs!".
Can do 31 from hand without Emperor.
Awesome deck thanks for posting. Finally a warrior deck I can try that doesn't cost 10k dust lol.
The Wizard
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Subbed in moat lurker for nerubian prophet in evovle/ C'thun hybrid shaman. Seems like a fun use for him!
Can do 31 from hand without Emperor.
I'm going to have to try this the only thing I'm missing is faceless but I can probably disenchant enough to craft it if I like the deck.
Tried an Arcane Giant in my C'Thun Mage deck last night. Was decent but I don't think it gives me enough tempo.
Also threw in the Portal for shits and giggles, which produces varying results. I mean I got rid of my only Flamestrike for that so not sure it was the smartest move.
Also threw in the Portal for shits and giggles, which produces varying results. I mean I got rid of my only Flamestrike for that so not sure it was the smartest move.
She could be good in a deck that runs Barnes, that would certainly be a good pull.Man I want to play my Ysera
Any idea in which meta deck I can tèch her
Bad craft..
Hate Warrior, but that deck is super cheap. Just pulled a bunch of trash Warlock Epics that are getting dusted so might as well grab a Faceless Manipulator to make it.
e: made it, thank you golden Pit Lords
e2: I keep losing because I need charge and it's been in the bottom 3 cards of my deck the last three games
e: made it, thank you golden Pit Lords
e2: I keep losing because I need charge and it's been in the bottom 3 cards of my deck the last three games
Have a look at how Senfglas (Glass of Mustard) plays the deck: https://www.twitch.tv/senfglas_/v/84490156?t=04h47m33s
Realistically, I don't think I have the energy to complain that much while playing.
Thank you for the link.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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for some reason I had a lvl 18 hero left on my account and I almost didn't make it because I was so bored.
You can craft the golden versions of cards and if you beat every boss you get a cardback.
You don't need to beat heroics to craft golden cards, it's only for the heroic cardback. There's a guide for heroic chess here
https://www.reddit.com/r/CompetitiveHS/comments/4xcu18/onik_heroic_chess_guide/
Man-is-Obsolete
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I end up just dropping early game minions and houndmasters. Instead I rely on spells to control the board or summon minions and two kindly grandmothers and one Cloaked huntress that I wouldn't mind if Barnes drew. Only vanilla 1/1 Barnes would draw would be Nzoth, but I can't justify the removal of Nzoth.
Put Barnes and kindly grandmother in my midrange hunter. 4-0 so far at rank 10 and 9. Certainly feels strong.
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4-1, got high rolled by this fucking Shaman. It was close, I'm wondering if there was a way I could have won.
https://hsreplay.net/replay/ESnSVzdf3SvPfz5QNztUha
Here's the replay if anyone is willing to take a look and critique. (I fully admit I'm not good at Hunter, I have fewer than 100 ranked wins with the class)
And here's my deck, I didn't netdeck it so I'm sure it's not optimized. I'm not convinced on UTH--the only times I've drawn it, it's been a dead card. But it would have been really good in that Shaman match, for example, but I didnt draw it. I also think I fucked up in that Shaman match by not keeping my 8-drop in my opening hand, I haven't really figured out mulligans in this deck yet.
EDIT:
4-1, got high rolled by this fucking Shaman. It was close, I'm wondering if there was a way I could have won.
https://hsreplay.net/replay/ESnSVzdf3SvPfz5QNztUha
Here's the replay if anyone is willing to take a look and critique. (I fully admit I'm not good at Hunter, I have fewer than 100 ranked wins with the class)
And here's my deck, I didn't netdeck it so I'm sure it's not optimized. I'm not convinced on UTH--the only times I've drawn it, it's been a dead card. But it would have been really good in that Shaman match, for example, but I didnt draw it. I also think I fucked up in that Shaman match by not keeping my 8-drop in my opening hand, I haven't really figured out mulligans in this deck yet.
Thanks!
And I had another in my hand at the end!
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