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Care to share your list? I am doing something similar.
here you go: http://www.hearthpwn.com/deckbuilde...46:2;33159:2;33163:1;35234:2;42045:2;42047:2;
feel free to comment
I qwould cut 1 totemic might, 1 bloodlust and put in 2 totem golem
SonicXtreme
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probably the ultimate wild deck, try losing with it
Standard doesn't make much sense in arena. There's no card collection issues there so there's no need to reduce the size of the card pool that way. You also don't have to worry about the abusable synergies because you can't count on drafting specific combos or putting in enough redundancy to reliably execute those synergies.
BananasWithGuns
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I haven't played the deck myself but aren't both Totemic Mights pretty necessary for setting up the Bloodlust?
I think the top cards to cut on that list would be Feral Spirit, Ancestral Knowledge and Hammer of Twilight. I could be wrong though.
This guy gets it.
Standard in Arena is pointless, but adjusting the probability of seeing specific cards in arena without affecting the bullshit rarity levels that Blizzard seems to think are important even though they aren't, then I am all for it.
Turn down the probabilty of problem cards turn up the likelyhood for weak classes to get strong cards. YOU KNOW, ATTEMPT TO CREATE BALANCE! Like it was a digitial game and not pen and paper and cardboard.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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on the contrary because of standard you will get synergies. The more you dilute the pool of cards the more it becomes about just getting good stuff.
If you look at MTG they design every set about a limited environment, most of that is draft, the closest equivalent to Arena.
You want players to be rewarded for certain picks with later cards.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Muahaha, it finally happened. Barnes got me malygos when I had double sinister strike in hand. Shaman was already at 14 after smacking my auctioneer in the face twice with doomhammer so I won off that barnes play. The funny thing is I wasn't even banking on a big barnes play since I already had a play to get board back with backstab and si7 agent, so I was only hoping for an auctioneer or emperor thaurisan. But instead I just won the game outright.
I don't want GvG only arena weeks, but rotating the set bonuses that they've had previously could make for some interesting meta shifts. Maybe different set bonuses for different classes at the same time?
"Now in arena, Shaman and Priest battle it out in The Grand Tournament. Draft 2x as many cards from TGT. Meanwhile, Gul'dan is paying a visit to Naxxramas. Draft 2x as many cards from Naxx."
Or maybe specific bonuses that are assigned randomly when choosing classes? So you get:
Warrior (2x as many Dragons offered) - Priest (2x as many spells offered) - Paladin
It might diversify in terms of classes picked as well.
"Now in arena, Shaman and Priest battle it out in The Grand Tournament. Draft 2x as many cards from TGT. Meanwhile, Gul'dan is paying a visit to Naxxramas. Draft 2x as many cards from Naxx."
Or maybe specific bonuses that are assigned randomly when choosing classes? So you get:
Warrior (2x as many Dragons offered) - Priest (2x as many spells offered) - Paladin
It might diversify in terms of classes picked as well.
Karsticles
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I play Barnes as a split-stat yeti. Anything extra is gravy in my mind.
Mobius and pet octopus
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My plays have been on point today. 5 wins in a row bringing me 1 short of rank 1. I also feel pretty focused, which I know I am not always when playing the game. I often don't count lethal damage every single round, or consider every potential top deck - something you really need to do when you play rogue as it determines so much of your plays.
Same, but my chance of pulling a 1/1 is equal to my chance of pulling something amazing. And all the vanillas are basically cards I mulligan for anyway (perhaps excluding van cleef, although sometimes it is fine to hold it)... these chances are actually favored to pull something good even more.
1/1s - si7 agentx2, van cleef, ERFx1 - 4 total
amazing - malygos, auctioneerx2, emperor thaurisan - 4 total
better than 1/1, but not always amazing - thalnos, azure drakex2, tomb pillagerx2, xaril - 6 total
Love this card so far.
Same, but my chance of pulling a 1/1 is equal to my chance of pulling something amazing. And all the vanillas are basically cards I mulligan for anyway (perhaps excluding van cleef, although sometimes it is fine to hold it)... these chances are actually favored to pull something good even more.
1/1s - si7 agentx2, van cleef, ERFx1 - 4 total
amazing - malygos, auctioneerx2, emperor thaurisan - 4 total
better than 1/1, but not always amazing - thalnos, azure drakex2, tomb pillagerx2, xaril - 6 total
Love this card so far.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I can't explain some of the comments people put on my "pros were wrong" video.
I still think zerus is a decent card as well, despite not being used. It was used in americas prelim. The problem with zerus is not that it's a bad card but because the ladder meta doesn't really favor the type of decks that would use it.
Even if I were to buy the argument that it's "decent" and it's only being pushed out because of the meta, Amaz called the card a control deck's wetdream and that it was better than Unstable Portal.
The bar for a wrong prediction should not be so high that the only statement that qualifies is "Dr. Boom? He's no Troggzor. Should have been a 6/7".
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Shifter Zerus sucks.
Its not just him either, its not even a problem, I understand that people want to maximise the thinking time but Trump, Savjz, StrifeCro they all do it and they do it so often and sometimes lose games because they do not calculate animation times, as a viewer its excruciating to watch.
When you have a turn that literally has the most basic of options and you rope out....god damn.
My most recent face palm was when he goes..."well I'm always going to play raven idol this turn" then sits there deliberating the entire turn then after the rope starts he panics... so he plays raven idol and picks the worst option and doesn't finish his turn.
I almost wonder if he plays it up as his schtick somewhat like Reynad.
Mobius and pet octopus
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For control decks, yeah it's better than unstable portal.
At least in Strifecro cases he does calculate heavily, you watch him for these kind of stuff.
Trump and Savjs is concede deck specialist at this point and lose because rope is funny because the context they playing meme deck
12 - 14 burst with Auchenai/flash heal hero power prolly
irfaanator
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usually control priest would run 2 flash heals, so that + justicar hero power and auch is 14 max. also depends on if they play corrupted healbot
No it doesn't.
Sometimes a Priest has double Flash heal with Auchenai which can lead to 12-14 damage from hand (if they hero power buffed with Justicar). That was one of the few ways Priest could win against Jaraxxus. Usually if you are above 10 HP and they haven't played Ysera (so no Nightmare to worry about), you are generally safe from damage in hand.
BananasWithGuns
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The only burst Priest has is Auchenai or something they stole from you. It's probably the class you have to worry about the least in terms of bursting you down at low health.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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off the top of my head I'd say 12, auchenai + 2 flash heal + hero power, costs 8 mana total
The thing about auchenai+2 flash heal is that it's a 3 card combo which isn't worth playing around unless they have drawn a ton of cards. They almost always will use parts of it to clear minions as well.
I'd say in general against non OTK decks it's not worth playing around a 3 card combo.
I'd say in general against non OTK decks it's not worth playing around a 3 card combo.
Trump has never been a particularly good player in any game he has played, when he played sc2 he was not good enough at macro so he literally, and I kid you not, played one streategh, which was a Terran thor rush, every game, every single game. When he played League of legends he played one champion, Sona and duo'd with a good adc.
What Trump has is persistence and a good way of explaining things, also a demeanor that doesnt put anyone off, I like his stream, but god damn does he overthink, which in StrifeCros case you can excuse because he often makes the best play, Trump makes the best play half the time at best.
Last time you offered I waited for a fucking hour, so no, I am not helping you with this.
I could play one before going to bed.
cHinzo#2303
LOL! Please don't let it take an hour, it's 3 am. :"D
Familienoberhauptvogel
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It has some incremental heal and some direct damage spells.
Trump is great at explain his reasoning even if he ends up choosing the wrong option sometimes. He also remains calm in the face of disaster which is a quality I really like in a streamer. Easily my favorite streamer to watch.
My other favorite streamer is the guy who has the most fun in hearthstone, Wowhobbs. He just gets so much enjoyment out of the games making his own decks hat it really is fun to watch. He has so many different ideas and likes to try them all. If you want to see someone have fun I recommend him.
But lately I haven't been playing at all instead I've been doing mothership in diep.io. I can't wait for the menagerie though.
My other favorite streamer is the guy who has the most fun in hearthstone, Wowhobbs. He just gets so much enjoyment out of the games making his own decks hat it really is fun to watch. He has so many different ideas and likes to try them all. If you want to see someone have fun I recommend him.
But lately I haven't been playing at all instead I've been doing mothership in diep.io. I can't wait for the menagerie though.
Well when i offered he never showed up. Would have been nice if he'd posted here that I could go fuck myself so I didn't waste the time.
Would have been nice to know that then.
you really need a game to go quite long with you being able to hold cards for the probabilitiy of a good result to rise enough. Not sure I'd want a meta where shifter zerus was able to sit in a hand long enough to be a good card.
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