You mean its a minion tempo deck just like every other deck aka play over stated minions on curve.
Turn 2 Alex Champion, turn 3 Blacking Tech, turn 4 Twilight, Turn 5 Blackwing Corruptor.
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Turn 2 Alex Champion, turn 3 Blacking Tech, turn 4 Twilight, Turn 5 Blackwing Corruptor.
Yeah
Warrior finally get on the wave n its their best deck (
mofos gonna run out of the card in all games too because lack of draw, like you know certain class, finish game in 8 turn or you in topdeck mode.. no defensive tool too, its strong warrior deck without the fun swing mechanic that Warrior had. I can't go back piloting deck like this, fuck you blizz
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Too funny
This my worry about standard. Time will tell if that is the case but right now I just find wild so much more interesting and fun. I enjoy seeing the variety in wild that includes mechs on top of all the things instandard. N'zoth can can be quite a bit more intersting as well.
I also would prefer they add new cards that counter pre-existing OPness rather then nerfs. Heck even banning cards from ranked would be better to me. Some of the recent nerfs would never have had to happen if they had made a core set of the existing sets and let the rest rotate out.
It will put stats on the board no matter what. Though I would just run Nefarian and Ysera, try to get the random draws.
I decided to give the solo adventures a try and all of a sudden I was having really fun.
I really liked the puzzly nature of the bosses with different strategies needed, looking at what they had and then retry. And for a while I was enjoying myself quite a lot.
Then I ran out of missions to do and tried to play another Ranked game, ran up against some bullshit rogue who never let me have a single fucking minion out, tried 5 more times and lost every one, now I hate this game again.
It's sad that the solo adventures are so few and overpriced like fuck.
I really liked the puzzly nature of the bosses with different strategies needed, looking at what they had and then retry. And for a while I was enjoying myself quite a lot.
Then I ran out of missions to do and tried to play another Ranked game, ran up against some bullshit rogue who never let me have a single fucking minion out, tried 5 more times and lost every one, now I hate this game again.
It's sad that the solo adventures are so few and overpriced like fuck.
Karsticles
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Now go back and beat them on Heroic.
Good Job Bob
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How essential is Twilight Guardian to Dragon Warrior? I don't want to spend 800 dust on two TGT epics that are only good in a very specific archetype and Senjin seems like a good enough replacement.
Karsticles
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It's not just about 3/6 vs. 3/5. It's about the card being a dragon activator for other cards. You're harming not only the stat-vomit the deck is played for, but its synergy and consistency.
Very essential.
3/6 is considerably better than a 3/5 especially as a 4 drop taunt. Not only that but Twilight Dragon itself is a dragon and can activate your other dragon synergy cards like Alex Champion, Blackwing Tech before it.
If you want to play any Dragon deck (not just Warrior) then you need Twilight, card is just too good in that type of deck.
Good Job Bob
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Guess no Dagon Warrior for me then. Can't justify that dust for a deck that, while probably being the best deck in the game at the moment, is pretty boring.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Heh, my aggressive rogue decks often run ooze. It's a 2 drop that lets you win vs decks with a lot of weapon removal
It's also a pretty budget minded deck, maybe has 1 legendary and everything else is cheap.
If you can run midrange hunter or shaman, no reason to dusting for Dragon Warrior too, its basically same deck
or you can always run other midrange warrior variant that far less boring
Lmfao stat vomit
When they did that Standard tournament back before Old Gods even came out... these were the top decks (you can check the tapes):
1) Combo Druid (doesn't exist anymore)
2) Aggro Shaman (current tier 1 deck)
3) Zoolock (current tier 1/2 deck)
4) Dragon Warrior (current tier 1/2 deck)
5) Miracle Rogue (previous tier 1 deck, now tier 2/3)
6) Dragon Priest (tier 3 deck)
Final match of the tournament was this legendary one from Thjis and Savyj.
https://youtu.be/RFFHFb-Lnv4
1) Combo Druid (doesn't exist anymore)
2) Aggro Shaman (current tier 1 deck)
3) Zoolock (current tier 1/2 deck)
4) Dragon Warrior (current tier 1/2 deck)
5) Miracle Rogue (previous tier 1 deck, now tier 2/3)
6) Dragon Priest (tier 3 deck)
Final match of the tournament was this legendary one from Thjis and Savyj.
https://youtu.be/RFFHFb-Lnv4
18-7 today with N'Zoth Priest (wild).
Get rekt, aggro Shaman:
This guy had Doomhammer w/ double rockbiter and still lost. I hope he uninstalled the game. (what kind of loser plays aggro Shaman in wild, anyway, it's a tier one standard deck ffs)
I'm facing so many control decks... control Paladin, Control Warrior (N'Zoth), Control Shaman even... and lots of Control Priest variations... You don't see that shit in Standard.
How strange that standard and old gods was supposed to slow down the meta but it's the degenerate wild meta where you have to go if you want to play control vs control.
Get rekt, aggro Shaman:
This guy had Doomhammer w/ double rockbiter and still lost. I hope he uninstalled the game. (what kind of loser plays aggro Shaman in wild, anyway, it's a tier one standard deck ffs)
I'm facing so many control decks... control Paladin, Control Warrior (N'Zoth), Control Shaman even... and lots of Control Priest variations... You don't see that shit in Standard.
How strange that standard and old gods was supposed to slow down the meta but it's the degenerate wild meta where you have to go if you want to play control vs control.
18-7 today with N'Zoth Priest (wild).
Get rekt, aggro Shaman:
This guy had Doomhammer w/ double rockbiter and still lost. I hope he uninstalled the game. (what kind of loser plays aggro Shaman in wild, anyway, it's a tier one standard deck ffs)
I'm facing so many control decks... control Paladin, Control Warrior (N'Zoth), Control Shaman even... and lots of Control Priest variations... You don't see that shit in Standard.
How strange that standard and old gods was supposed to slow down the meta but it's the degenerate wild meta where you have to go if you want to play control vs control.
I'm seeing plenty of control decks in Standard (Rank 16-14). I even had a control shaman mirror earlier today. I was Yogg Shaman and he was N'zoth/Ancestral Spirit.
There are certainly more tempo and midrange decks, but maybe it is just because I'm playing weird stuff that I notice it more.
Define plenty? I played 33 games in wild, and 13 of those were against control decks.
I only saw one hunter, one aggro Shaman, one midrange Shaman, and two zoo Warlocks.
BananasWithGuns
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I miss Sludge Belcher.
Still don't think it's worth going back to seeing Piloted Shredder and Dr. Boom every match.
Still don't think it's worth going back to seeing Piloted Shredder and Dr. Boom every match.
Patron beats Tempo Warrior pretty well and stomps all over that bubble deck with all its whirlwinds. But I get faced up against nothing but Priest in the garbage ranks so I can't use it.
Not reallt maybe dragon variant tho.. but I usually not have trouble.. they fare as wòrse as zoolòck against slow tempo warrìor or patron due tò extra whirlwind and more taunt
The Data Reaper report actually shows that Dragon Warrior is favored. Ravaging Ghoul is Aggro Paladin's natural enemy.
Midrange Hunter is favored, though.
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF~
I managed to take this guy down to 2 health, had 4 minions out and 16 health left, even if he took out a minion with taunt he would not be able to stop the onslaught. For once I felt generally pretty fucking good about the match and he OF COURSE HAS A FUCKING RENO JACKSON THAT BRINGS HIM TO FULL HEALTH GAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
I managed to take this guy down to 2 health, had 4 minions out and 16 health left, even if he took out a minion with taunt he would not be able to stop the onslaught. For once I felt generally pretty fucking good about the match and he OF COURSE HAS A FUCKING RENO JACKSON THAT BRINGS HIM TO FULL HEALTH GAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
My N'zoth Priest (Wild) just took a Hybrid Hunter (w/ N'zoth) to Fatigue and beat him. I probably healed for 60 that game! I was greedy and kept Justicar in my mulligan and that's the only reason I won. I survived both Call of the Wilds, a big N'Zoth turn (which seemed bad, as he brought back two mad scientists, two creeper, and one Sludge Belcher only), all his crazy burn.
The last 10 or so turns he had a secret up and a weapon equipped, and I never attacked his face once. I just removed every threat he played, then healed myself. Entombed Highmane, Lightbombed Boom, Cabaled Webspinner. There was no reason to ever proc his secret and give him the weapon charge (it was either Bear or Explosive, I tested for everything else).
If anyone wants to try my deck,
I don't run Northshire (I don't need more draw, with all these situational cards I don't want my hand to get too full and I have to burn an excavated a turn too early). I don't run Auchenai Soul Priest / Circle--I have Lightbomb, Excavated, and Holy Nova for clears. I did find I sometimes missed being able to do 4 damage to everything, which is why I teched in the Bloodmage Thalnos.
I don't run Velen's because there's too much hard removal out there. I don't want to go all in on a Deathlord, get rekt by execute, and lose two cards.
Basically I'm using Doomsayers and Deathlords to keep the early game at a comfortably slow pace, being greedy with my removal in order to disrupt the opponent's gameplan (I'd say the way you lose is by running out of removal so knowing what your opponent's win condition and what to save your Entombs for is key) and let the game tell me how I'm going to win. I've had to use N'Zoth just to bring back Sludge Belcher to give me more time to stabilize, and I've used N'Zoth as a finisher against a deck that's out of removal.
This version of the deck is 19-8 (70%). I ran an earlier version that I netdecked that was more tradional control priest, with Clerics and Velen's and Power Word Shield and Soul Priests, but I didn't like it.
The last 10 or so turns he had a secret up and a weapon equipped, and I never attacked his face once. I just removed every threat he played, then healed myself. Entombed Highmane, Lightbombed Boom, Cabaled Webspinner. There was no reason to ever proc his secret and give him the weapon charge (it was either Bear or Explosive, I tested for everything else).
If anyone wants to try my deck,
I don't run Northshire (I don't need more draw, with all these situational cards I don't want my hand to get too full and I have to burn an excavated a turn too early). I don't run Auchenai Soul Priest / Circle--I have Lightbomb, Excavated, and Holy Nova for clears. I did find I sometimes missed being able to do 4 damage to everything, which is why I teched in the Bloodmage Thalnos.
I don't run Velen's because there's too much hard removal out there. I don't want to go all in on a Deathlord, get rekt by execute, and lose two cards.
Basically I'm using Doomsayers and Deathlords to keep the early game at a comfortably slow pace, being greedy with my removal in order to disrupt the opponent's gameplan (I'd say the way you lose is by running out of removal so knowing what your opponent's win condition and what to save your Entombs for is key) and let the game tell me how I'm going to win. I've had to use N'Zoth just to bring back Sludge Belcher to give me more time to stabilize, and I've used N'Zoth as a finisher against a deck that's out of removal.
This version of the deck is 19-8 (70%). I ran an earlier version that I netdecked that was more tradional control priest, with Clerics and Velen's and Power Word Shield and Soul Priests, but I didn't like it.
Sometimes lucky. Against a Reno Mage in the sub-dumpster ranks because I barely played last month.. Shade #1 gave me Polymorph, Shade #2 gave me Fireball, Shade #3 from N'zoth gave me Effigy, and Spellslinger gave me another Fireball. Effigy gave me an Auchenai Soulpriest when it triggered on a Twilight Guardian.
Classic is also evergreen and if we do ever see Nerfs again, they'll be on cards in the classic set. I'm missing a few epics in Wrath I'd like, but I've switched to Classic whenever I'm getting packs because I want Classic golden cards that I'll be able to use forever.
They should come out with an adventure soon-ish if they want to keep with their timeline. YMMV if you think they'll keep up with it.
Not really missing any playable epics so those aren't a factor.
Not really missing any playable epics so those aren't a factor.
I'll try to give it a go this evening. Out of interest would it not make sense to tech in an Eater of Secrets for something like SW: Pain?
You run the version with Tournament Medic?
Nah, self-made. It's pretty much all Warlock-removals + draw + strong minions. Only for the luls.
No, that card sucks and this deck is great against Secret Pally anyway. Why make your other match ups worse?
Fair enough. What ranking were you playing this at?
veryslowhand
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yogg wins so many games in tempo mage, seriously, craft him
Lone_Prodigy
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I kind of miss last week's Brawl. Very RNG dependent but I got 17 wins with it.
Karsticles
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I rememeber when we all thought Hallazeal would be strong.
Duelyst releases 4 new cards every month, and it definitely helps keep the game fresh along with 2 monthly patches.Peléo;209128438 said:
Infinity Wars' devs recently declared they will be releasing monthly cards, too, and I am pretty excited about that.
It would be nice if Hearthstone took a similar approach. It helps keep the game fresh.
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