Karsticles
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Not everyone played for those 2 years.
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Mobius and pet octopus
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Oh well.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Who said I am opposing it?
Mobius and pet octopus
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Re-read what I said. I'm pretty apathetic towards the issue, but I never argued they shouldn't sell them. People did have 2 years and several months before it happened they had the opportunity to unlock the wings if they really wanted to. If you missed out, it's just what it is. It's not like you only had a small window to buy the adventures.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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Alex + Tirion means your Ashbringer is lethal.
I think Blizzard thinks that if they sell Wild Packs/Adventures, their customer service is going to be inundated with customer's demanding refunds because they bought cards they can't use (in standard).
It also keeps the client streamlined and approachable.
If you go into the store and there's a million different pack types and adventures, that might turn people off.
It also keeps the client streamlined and approachable.
If you go into the store and there's a million different pack types and adventures, that might turn people off.
this is part of an old argument about content lost.. these digital games have a tendency of just losing content without any way to obtain it. Kind of sad in my opinion since I would have liked to buy now Naxx just to have my collection of all adventures
Mobius and pet octopus
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I just cracked up as my zoolock opponent got over-excited to play leeroy top deck, thinking he could use chillmaw deathrattle to kill the whelps, but not realizing his leeroy would die with it.
I can play the content still fine, as can anyone else who bought the adventures while they were being sold. They aren't lost, they just aren't being sold to people who haven't bought at least one wing.
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For what it's worth, I wouldn't mind them re-releasing the wings for sale... or even introducing some cards back into standard for a rotation.
I can play the content still fine, as can anyone else who bought the adventures while they were being sold. They aren't lost, they just aren't being sold to people who haven't bought at least one wing.
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For what it's worth, I wouldn't mind them re-releasing the wings for sale... or even introducing some cards back into standard for a rotation.
The reason they don't want to keep selling the old adventures is because they don't want to have to keep re-testing the battles every time they patch something since they did not set up any regression tests for them which is kinda understandable. One of the boss fights in BRM got bugged to be stupidly easy because the boss' hero power got broken in a patch, but it could easily go the other way around where a battle becomes unwinnable because of a patch. By limiting the number of adventures they have to maintain they ease up on the dev manpower. If one of the Naxx or GVG bosses was completely unwinnable I imagine they would put it on the lowest fix priority.
BananasWithGuns
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I'm liking Dragon Paladin a lot. The fact that the Netherspite Historians pretty much allow you to leave the late game dragons out of your deck is huge.
Probably still needs a lot of refinement but I think there will end up being a list that is really strong.
Probably still needs a lot of refinement but I think there will end up being a list that is really strong.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Another game vs yogg mage where yogg almost single handedly won him the game. I'll paint you a picture. Top decks yogg the turn before he loses. Plays yogg and the first spell is twisting nether. Then it plays him mind games and 2 stand against darkness, as well as several draw cards.
It turns out he gets a major domo from that rogue discover card and manages to kill it bringing him from 1 hp (with me having lethal from hand) to 8 hp, with a hero power that can win him the game in itself.
I still managed to scrape by a win... he ran into fatigue and couldn't kill me or clear my board and I was just lucky his rag shots didn't hit me in the face a few times in a row.
Talk about the RNG... the guy had no board presence, almost no hand, nearly dead, with me at full hp... and then suddenly he has 7 minions on board with me having none, having drawn several cards.
Still did not feel good to win that. And it would have been way worse to lose it that way. Some people might argue, well that's a 10 mana card it has to be great to even be played. But at least with n'zoth and c'thun etc., you can plan for that.
It turns out he gets a major domo from that rogue discover card and manages to kill it bringing him from 1 hp (with me having lethal from hand) to 8 hp, with a hero power that can win him the game in itself.
I still managed to scrape by a win... he ran into fatigue and couldn't kill me or clear my board and I was just lucky his rag shots didn't hit me in the face a few times in a row.
Talk about the RNG... the guy had no board presence, almost no hand, nearly dead, with me at full hp... and then suddenly he has 7 minions on board with me having none, having drawn several cards.
Still did not feel good to win that. And it would have been way worse to lose it that way. Some people might argue, well that's a 10 mana card it has to be great to even be played. But at least with n'zoth and c'thun etc., you can plan for that.
Hearthstone would make an excellent anime though.
"I have lethal on board with 2 4 mana 7/7s. My next attack will finish your pathetic tournament run!"
"Not so fast... as long as I have one HP I am still in this."
"Draw... I play the magic spell UNSTABLE PORTAL. I pay two mana to receive a random minion and its cost is reduced by 3."
"Old Gods grant me power beyond power... ahah! You had a good run Not-Kaiba but I am afraid that I will to be winning this duel after all...."
"Impossible!!! You have no hopes of beating my double 4 mana 7/7s. You have used both Fireballs and Polymorphs... that measly portal isn't going to save you now!"
"Come forth.... DEATHWING, THE POWER INCARNATE!!!! With this minion's Battlecry I destroy all minions on the battlefield!!!"
"NNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOO.... MY 4 MANA 7/7s!!!!
"I have lethal on board with 2 4 mana 7/7s. My next attack will finish your pathetic tournament run!"
"Not so fast... as long as I have one HP I am still in this."
"Draw... I play the magic spell UNSTABLE PORTAL. I pay two mana to receive a random minion and its cost is reduced by 3."
"Old Gods grant me power beyond power... ahah! You had a good run Not-Kaiba but I am afraid that I will to be winning this duel after all...."
"Impossible!!! You have no hopes of beating my double 4 mana 7/7s. You have used both Fireballs and Polymorphs... that measly portal isn't going to save you now!"
"Come forth.... DEATHWING, THE POWER INCARNATE!!!! With this minion's Battlecry I destroy all minions on the battlefield!!!"
"NNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOO.... MY 4 MANA 7/7s!!!!
In Hearthstone, every card is Time Wizard.
This post deserves like 100+ likes. Reminds me of that comedy short a fan made with Kripp vs Ben Brode on youtube
Absolutely disgusting.
mrpallyguy
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Man my enjoyment of this games gets real low because of how arena is nowadays. Hopefully blizzard changes some stuff soon.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Ummm can anybody explain this? Rogue had misdirect up and my minion hit my face and this happened.
There's no way that is supposed to happen right?
You had a weapon right? That's supposed to happen.
Why? It doesn't happen when a minion attacks a person with a weapon any other time.
Mobius and pet octopus
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When it isn't your turn, your weapon is sheathed or not active. It's flipped over. On your turn it's active, your character has an attack value just like any minion.
Your weapon is active on your turn, and inactive on your opponent's turn.
Mobius and pet octopus
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It's a neat interaction imo. Makes misdirection a bit stronger versus weapon classes.
lol! I must confess I had no idea this was a thing either
cartographer
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This is the same company that said more than nine deck slots would confuse players. It's something along those lines.
They should still sell the adventures to people who didn't gain access to them before they were rotated out. Packs I understand not having because you can just craft the cards anyway, but the adventures have content outside the cards. It's odd to just remove that from the game for new players just because the cards aren't part of standard.
Sell them for real money only, put a big disclaimer, maybe even only sell them out of game if they are really worried about confusing people.
Testing the replay function of the HS deck tracker. It's quite neat I must say.
https://hsreplay.net/replay/SACHUCxSArdrMszruMESAH
Babbling book into Blizzard and both my Cabalist's Tome casting just the right spells at the right time were incredibly lucky on my part. I think I will stop playing today, RNG is never going to get any better than that.
https://hsreplay.net/replay/SACHUCxSArdrMszruMESAH
Babbling book into Blizzard and both my Cabalist's Tome casting just the right spells at the right time were incredibly lucky on my part. I think I will stop playing today, RNG is never going to get any better than that.
Blizard is just considering marketing options, I'm sure they will eventually come up with something. Stuff like limited windows to buy old adventures (With Cash), or sets of old packs (Also with Cash). I think they are waiting till the next set of expansions rotate out of Standard, once that happens wild should pick up in popularity a lot, and it will be easier to sell old content.
Mobius and pet octopus
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They actually are hiding wild from new players. They want new players to be exposed to standard first. It is overwhelming to a new player to see so many expansions in the store, and adventures to pick from, and the cards etc.. Imagine the game in 2 more years after we have 10 expansions/adventures. They want people to be able to start the game without being completely overwhelmed even then.
Little late but here's my take on it. It's basically the classic gadgetzan rogue shell with burglar, huckster, burgle peddler, giants, and yogg. It's been doing pretty well so far, I'd probably put VC in too if I had him.
cartographer
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That's intentional. Wild is basically a compromise with established players in mind. Blizzard wants newer players in their preferred format.
BananasWithGuns
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Is Cult Sorcerer like low key one of the most overpowered cards Blizzard has ever printed?
Looking at that thing next to Kobold is so ridiculous lol.
Looking at that thing next to Kobold is so ridiculous lol.
Azure Drake exist
Cult Sorcerer is not that OP. She's basically on the same level as something like Bloodmage Thalnos or Azure Drake in terms of value for her cost. OP enough to see play in Constructed but she's not suffocating in any way.
No, it's just a strong 2 drop. I would rate Sorc Apprentice above it by quite a bit.
In other news I am very impressed with the two new dragon cards. They are probably the hardest carry in the decks that aren't normal dragon decks. Netherspite in particular allows you to play lower high end dragons for better early game because the Discover is pretty much always going to have a big dragon option if you need it. A lot of minions in the meta are 3 damage or less which means Book Wyrm has been hitting for me every game. I have even had good success with Dragon Mage. Kibler would be proud. Dragon Paladin got the biggest boost because A) Dragon Consort is the most common Discover and stacking up all those Consorts is really strong for mid/late game tempo and B) They can manipulate attack to make Book Wyrm hit larger targets.
BananasWithGuns
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Netherspite Historian > Nefarian > Cone of Cold + Cabalist's Tome > Arcane Intellect + Fireball x2
Seems pretty good.
Seems pretty good.
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