Brian Griffin
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Guaranteed FWA on turn two wins more games for people than Yogg on turn 10, that's what he's pointing out. You're bitching about Yogg while having one of the actual most powerful cards in the game as your avatar.
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Well, FWA can be played around. Yogg can't. FWA has to be drawn in your top 5 or 6 cards to be really effective. You can draw Yogg whenever the fuck. FWA has counters: Argent Squire, Totem Golem, Mirror Image, Possessed Villager, Kindly Grandmother, Infested Wolf, Acidic Swamp Ooze, Stoneclaw Totem, Silver Hand Recruit, etc. Yogg has no counter. FWA doesn't ruin a 20 minute game with a series to coin flips to determine the winner that makes the entire rest of the game a complete waste of time since no previous decision mattered to the outcome.
FWA is only so powerful because so many classes have early game drops that snowball out of control when they aren't removed. I'm sorry if your bullshit Mana Wyrm or Tunnel Trogg got removed before you could a Pyroblast's worth of damge out of it but maybe you shouldn't just vomit your hand all over the board and expect to win?
Damn looks like patch got delayed
http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/forum/topic/20749127125?page=4#67
http://us.battle.net/hearthstone/en/forum/topic/20749127125?page=4#67
Bummer! I've been looking forward to popping those packs open on a break at work this week...
bangbang i'm a timpani
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whats the thought on Xixo's spell power based aggro shaman vs. the pre-karazhan one?
https://manacrystals.com/deck_guides/2122-xixo-s-aggro-shaman-feat-spirit-claws
I've been running it some this morning and it feels more consistent than Aggro shaman, especially with how incredibly stupid the spirit claws and portal have made Shaman's early game control.
Also you're less overloaded in this deck while still having the ability to pump out damage.
https://manacrystals.com/deck_guides/2122-xixo-s-aggro-shaman-feat-spirit-claws
I've been running it some this morning and it feels more consistent than Aggro shaman, especially with how incredibly stupid the spirit claws and portal have made Shaman's early game control.
Also you're less overloaded in this deck while still having the ability to pump out damage.
Yeah, I was a bit surprised it did not release yesterday. Hopefully they don't make us wait until next Tues. :/
quackamole
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What is in the patch? It's just adding the option to buy the welcome package right?
well these patches always come with something on background and fixes, most probably one of the background features got messed.
just persuaded myself to buy three classic packs with my gold (f2p-player here). And I got a legendary. Yes, I thought. But it is Millhouse. Oh well.
I started at the time before the release of the grand tournament and I am still missing important cards like sylvanas, ragnaros or justicar. I don't know how to get those cards without buying many packs (with money). Guess I will never play any control deck.
I started at the time before the release of the grand tournament and I am still missing important cards like sylvanas, ragnaros or justicar. I don't know how to get those cards without buying many packs (with money). Guess I will never play any control deck.
You can build your deck around it. You can't play around it. An aggressive deck is not going to refrain from playing their early drops against a warrior just because the warrior might have FWA.
Not saying FWA needs a nerf, but it is true that a bad trade against FWA is essentially game changing RNG that determines the outcome of games.
A very easy Yogg counter is killing your opponent before Turn 10. This is not a particularly difficult task for a lot of decks.
I buy few packs (I've only put $10 of real money in packs) and usually use the gold to buy them, I would recommend you to buy them with gold as much as you can, you will need that grind to continue.
also, you can try amazon coins if you are up to spend a few real money, I recently (in June or July) bought $50 of amazon coins for $10, I got 38 packs for those $10 and even more from the gold I grind that time. Got myself enough to craft several decks and now I'm not in such a hurry to get more cards since I can build from what I have.
also, classic packs if your way to go here if you don't have much cards in your collection
Ah the classic kill them before they kill you hard counter.
Guys Call of the Wild is completely fine, just kill them before turn 8.
And then people wonder why Aggro Shaman is so broke.
I'm still going to go with a Legendary pro champ over the average gaf. When Thijs says Yogg balances itself on the ladder I will stick with him as being vastly more credible
Now for tournament play (esports)- I'd rather it not be there
Firebat's tourney starting
https://www.twitch.tv/firebat
https://www.twitch.tv/firebat
Familienoberhauptvogel
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whether it's viable or not rushing someone down when your deck isn't build to do just that is absolutely counterplay. If you know you can't win the long game take risks and just try and gun your opponent down asap.
yeah its bout to go down. watching now
Tides banned Shaman which seems odd if he's running an anti-control Priest deck.
I never said it was. Card draw and the mulligan is RNG. Ergo, whether a warrior has FWA in their opening hand or not is RNG.
It can be. Sometimes you play aggressively because the type of deck your opponent is playing requires you do to so. It's sort of like that axiom people say about Midrange. It controls the board against Aggro and plays aggressively against Control. If you are anticipating Yogg you can go face against an opponent on Turn 9 instead of aiming to clear a board. You play a certain way in anticipation of a threat. That's counterplay.
True, but Anyfin Paladin is the most common version of Paladin in the tournament scene from the last few tourney's I've watched.
I originally thought all the Warrior players would substitute King's Defender, but it actually might be better if they use Doomsayer instead/in conjunction with, if they're playing Control.
This one is 3 cards actually. So i'll add gorillabot to the mix with them.
Yeah except you just play those 2, and 1 other Mech card.
Kotetsu534
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Purify proving its worth here. Making big plays for Tides' Priest.
I made a similar deck, except used Tiny Knight of Evil instead of Silverware Golem. Beat a Leaper deck, so it might be good?
EDIT: Loses pretty hard to fatigue Druid lol
Probably the simplest and easiest fix.
Just lowering Yogg's consistency by that 5-10% would be huge in balancing its effect.
Change that to "if it leaves the board" and we're good.
that way it can't shadowstep or vanish itself and continue pumping out spells, and allow re-summoning for free
what was rng bout it? Priest kicked Ness butt in the end fair and square
Maybe u meant Sylvannas RNG yeah that was lucky... stuff like that
Shifting Shade, Resurrect, Mind Vision, Bishop; C'thun Juggles were also a big deal. I only mention it because it seems to be the hot topic these days. I think it was pretty typical of what you would expect in a game like this. It was kind of frustrating to see chat still spamming "skill stone" during the match, when this is about as "pure" a control match up as we can see in the game (pun intended).
irfaanator
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check out disguised toasts vid on the rogue deck
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