Mobius and pet octopus
Member
Rosty is rank 3 legend with control warrior. Control warrior so bad amirite? 
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Hearthstone |OT7/7| _ Give Tyrande | _ Blizzard: Give Amazon Money
- Thread starter ZealousD
- Start date
- Status
Rosty is rank 3 legend with control warrior. Control warrior so bad amirite?
Well, he's got hells of spells and a Yogg, so....
And great players can take tier 2/3 decks to top ten legend fer sure. Scrubs like me have a hard time when the match ups are poor.
mrpallyguy
Member
Hmm duplicate legendary, 2 epics where one of them is golden , antonidas and jaraxxus which I was missing from opening the welcome bundle. I think that was worth the money. Hopefully they don't do this again so I don't get tempted to buy packs with real money.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
You know a deck is sub-optimal when somebody brags that they took it to legend.
Lost a game where I had 44HP to a Druid with one minion on board and 1 card in hand because he has a super favorable Yogg. Yay. Summons minions for him, buffs his minions, heals his face, puts three discovered cards into his hand, doesn't draw him cards when he's a fatigue, does a bunch of damage to my face,
So awesome to play these super long games that go to fatigue and lose from an unloseable position because the Yogg Slot Machine decided to fuck you.
Oh yeah, being upset at Yogg, that's the real problem.
It's not worth being upset that the game I've sunk hundreds of dollars and thousands of hours into has been turned into this.
Give me back the Secret Paladin meta. Or the Huntertaker meta. Or anything else.
Nothing has ever been worse than this.
I can't wait for nothing to have ever been as bad as the next thing you complain about.
Reddit has a nice thread right now with the top builds (edit- actually this is direct link to the top builds). I got a rogue build from there yesterday to complete my dailies
Today a bunch of us were just goofing off in Brawl experimenting with different combinations. Too bad my pals dont run HDT so their stats dont count.
interesting Jaraxxus and Cenarius were 2 of my 3 legendaries. But havent had much time to play the game to even try them out.
dang, you never came back to report what you got. thats some unlucky stuff right there
BananasWithGuns
Member
Cabalist's Tome is seriously the most bullshit card I've ever seen.
Why it doesn't get more complaints is beyond me because it's flat out broken.
Why it doesn't get more complaints is beyond me because it's flat out broken.
anything is better than this. hearthstone didn't used to make me want to drink bleach. i started in the huntertaker era. i played every day during the secret paladin era. I could actually stand to play more than one game at a time in those days.
I don't like that card either. Allows Tempo Mage to play the value game and stay in the game for a really long time. Feels like a card that they intended to be played for value/control Mage but Tempo Mages are running it too and it's just one more thing that makes it harder to play the control game against them.
But "most bullshit card ever seen" is a crazy hyperbole about on par with "Undertaker meta is better than current meta".
Yeah took me awhile to accumulate my collection. Gotta take advantage of easy brawls like this one so you can earn 100g (daily) by steamrolling people I'm afraid
Should have played around it by having no minions on board, Brawl + Shield Slam in your hand, and/or a Taunt for the concealed Yogg/6/3. Alternatively, should have picked Shaman or Hunter.
Tempo Mages used to run out of gas and you could outlast them. Now with Book and Tome, they always have gas. It's also now impossible to get a read on what they have in their hand because so much of it is random cards.
I'd still be happy to face 1000 tempo mages in a row if it wasn't for the fact that those games are pointless, because if you outlast or outplay the Mage, they just play Yogg and win the game no matter what you did the game.
bronkonagurski
Member
I agree.
That's exactly why it's not good.
"Welp that guy just countered all my plays and my minions are all dead... hand is empty better use Cabalist Tome and refill my hand with enough burn to finish the game".
It also goes back to the point of counter play and how you can't play around 3 random spells the Mage gets. It's very possible that the Mage may in fact may get 6+ Fireballs (including Torches) in a single game... that's 30 HP of direct damage there. Insanely stupid.
Then they have Yogg cherry on top of all that RNG slot machine crap.
Tempo Mage is like my top 3 most hated match ups to play against. It's probably not top 5 deck (though it could very well be) in the game but man is it always frustrating as hell to play against.
Yeah, I should just play Shaman, but since I no longer care about my rank (winning in this game has no meaning anymore) I'm playing the deck I like.
I don't know why I'm bothering, because this deck takes Druids and Mages to fatigue which means they get to play their Yogg so it's not like any of the decisions I make during the game have any impact on the result.
EDIT:
Last time I had a Mage quest I got a Pyroblast from Book and two Pyroblasts from Tome. I won that game.
Yeah I can understand the frustation, some of mage spell goes to toilet if you heal tho.. I think in general your gameplan against tempo mage not changing regardless they cast tome or not, you don't want your HP get low that's not changing regardless they get additional card or not
deck still stupid tho, I rather got doomhammered by shamen than seeing flamewanker burst me down
BananasWithGuns
Member
I love Freeze Mages that don't auto concede when I'm playing control Warrior.
It's fun to watch them struggle, get upset and concede after 15 turns.
It's fun to watch them struggle, get upset and concede after 15 turns.
I'm doing this too.
I'm not steam rolling tho, since I don't have the mechs to do it, but I use my combo of Deathwing Dragonlord + Barnes and it works a very surprising amount of times.
nothing works on the mechs though. That combo is unbeatable.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
Well, I ran into like 3 control warriors in my last 5 matches. I'm in scrub ranks 4-5. Seems like they're making a come back.
BananasWithGuns
Member
It's pretty much impossible for control Warrior to overtake ladder because Hunter exists.
slightconfuse
Banned
Love pulling out wins with Yogg.
Feels good
Malts ruin seems to be real popular
Feels good
Malts ruin seems to be real popular
Princess Carl
Member
You're both incredibly wrong and essentially asking for complacency in the face of bullshit.
But this is gaming side so thats no surprise.
Hunter aims to win by turn 10 so unless you get premium draws, C'Thun Warrior has zero chance. Dragon Warrior fares best.
It's very difficult.
Been gambling a lot in the arena for good decks. Got 6 wins the other night, was pretty cool.
I'm just frustrated that I don't have enough good cards yet having played the game for a month and a half to counter bullshit OP shit like Mid-Range Shaman decks. Even Resurrect Priest is difficult right now.
I'm just frustrated that I don't have enough good cards yet having played the game for a month and a half to counter bullshit OP shit like Mid-Range Shaman decks. Even Resurrect Priest is difficult right now.
Probably a decent meta call with all the aggro shamans from 5 to legend.
bronkonagurski
Member
That seems overly dramatic. I don't think the future of Hearthstone is being determined by what is posted in this thread. I'm not running some behind the scenes operation to stifle the opinions of GAF about Yogg. Geez.
Every time I play wild, it's just new players. Like what are you doing in here? Is low rank standard that bad? Like this guy was playing druid deck with basic cards.
I played against an interesting priest deck (on standard), This guy had mind games in his deck. every troll card was there, I bet he had 2x mind control. It was a yogg deck, needless to say he didn't win...
I played against an interesting priest deck (on standard), This guy had mind games in his deck. every troll card was there, I bet he had 2x mind control. It was a yogg deck, needless to say he didn't win...
It generally seems to be less try hard at lower ranks in Wild. More experimentation in there as well.
You can make a very powerful deck in Wild using just commons/rares. That's attractive for new players. It's also a lot more attractive for players who have been out of the loop for a while, used to play a lot back in the GvG/Naxx era and didn't invest too much into Old Gods/TGT/LoE. For them it's far easier to jump into Wild because they still have their Shredders/Dr Boom versus trying to get the new stuff in Standard that's hella strong.
I still would not recommend new players play Wild though.
You can make a very powerful deck in Wild using just commons/rares. That's attractive for new players. It's also a lot more attractive for players who have been out of the loop for a while, used to play a lot back in the GvG/Naxx era and didn't invest too much into Old Gods/TGT/LoE. For them it's far easier to jump into Wild because they still have their Shredders/Dr Boom versus trying to get the new stuff in Standard that's hella strong.
I still would not recommend new players play Wild though.
yeah, I played wild a few seasons ago with N'Zoth patron, it was very hard to lose with that deck.
I probably just play wild next season, I can't take any more hunters and shamans. And tempo mage bullshit just makes me too salty. Just for the sake of variety it should be better. I can't imagine someone q aggro shaman in wild, right?
I probably just play wild next season, I can't take any more hunters and shamans. And tempo mage bullshit just makes me too salty. Just for the sake of variety it should be better. I can't imagine someone q aggro shaman in wild, right?
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
The worst is when you play a druid who is soo... bad... and just manages to win by playing yogg.
Imagine if this brawl didn't have gold rewards. Then you could actually get some fun games instead of the n th no life loser that is grinding 100 gold by his imp warlock or mil druid. People are so lame. Constructed problems are just a reflection of that, hardly anyone even wants to try new things just like 10 days after a new set. Just roll that shaman again. Get gold whatever, what's even fun. I'm pretty sure a lot of people still play because they're addicted and they're not having fun..
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
Babbling Book, Arcane Missiles, Mana Wyrm really is quite good.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
I make it a priority to focus on fun cause anxiety over ladder is just not fun. Gotta let the RNG salt flow every once in a while, but also gotta learn to accept it. That said, yogg still ruins the fun.
I play whatever I feel like. Tempo warrior built from a trash bag? Sure. Dragon paladin? Sure. Burgle rogue... list goes on. Most of the decks I play are my own builds too.
Sometimes you do hit that streak of shamans and the game sucks, or you lose all your games to yogg after your opponent blatantly screws up... but then you take a break... maybe come back another time... and it's not so bad. Switching up decks is a cure to these problems too.
I think I have grinded the 100G like twice.
Once at the very beginning just to see how long it would take and once again in a very quick Tavern Brawl because I didn't even realize I had played that many matches.
That grind is such an inane thing to do. Surefire way to get yourself burnt out on the game.
Once at the very beginning just to see how long it would take and once again in a very quick Tavern Brawl because I didn't even realize I had played that many matches.
That grind is such an inane thing to do. Surefire way to get yourself burnt out on the game.
yes I've been tearing up mill druid with that. Also they hate my rogue- Prep + Evis + Strike.
- Status