That's way too niche and techy. They should've put it in the game when TGT came out though.
Call it Justicar Blackheart.
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Call it Justicar Blackheart.
Yo, all I said was that I'd rather face Shaman than see Priest or Hunter. Chill the fuck out.
Trying out a curator midrange shaman having never really played shaman before. Immediately go on a 5 game losing streak against ultra greedy decks including an anyfin paladin playing Yshaarj. I am terrible at this game.
I won a game! Woohoo! Against another super greedy deck. Man rank 13-14 is slow as hell right now for me.
I won a game! Woohoo! Against another super greedy deck. Man rank 13-14 is slow as hell right now for me.
BananasWithGuns
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Or fuck Priest because it's an awfully designed class that isn't fun to play against regardless of its power level.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I am "chill". Just saying like... you're complaining about the worst class in the game kinda like that app review that one dude posted lol... because you occasionally get out played in control mirrors? The only bad part about priest is that the games tend to stretch out long, but so does any control mirror.
What is awfully designed about priest? Because it doesn't just hit the god curve to win?
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For mirimar
The Mango Sentinel
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I think people just hate having their shit stolen and used against them. I think it's fucking hilarious most of the time.
You can make it to rank 5 with like a 40% win rate.
People don't like it when their stuff is stolen and used against them. Especially stuff like Thoughsteal which can't be played around all that well.
I don't mind this playstyle just like I don't mind the Thief Rogue playstyle. The problem is that this playstyle is baked into the class fundamentally. It is as fundamental to the class as playing burn spells as Mage or beasts as Hunter. It's not some extra/side archetype to the class.
Then there's the frustrating aspect of going on ladder with a slow control deck and then facing off against that one Priest who has both Elise and Malchazaar in their deck plus Mind Control and double Entomb. You lose the game automatically based on your deck but it's frustrating because you know that person lost 9/10 games to win the tenth game against you. It's Blizzard match making at it its finest. It's just another way the game punishes you for playing control.
And I think Priest is really bad and probably will not be tier 1 anytime soon, even if Blizzard tries to brute force a lot of strong cards in the next expansion. They need a bunch of stuff to go their way.
I don't mind this playstyle just like I don't mind the Thief Rogue playstyle. The problem is that this playstyle is baked into the class fundamentally. It is as fundamental to the class as playing burn spells as Mage or beasts as Hunter. It's not some extra/side archetype to the class.
Then there's the frustrating aspect of going on ladder with a slow control deck and then facing off against that one Priest who has both Elise and Malchazaar in their deck plus Mind Control and double Entomb. You lose the game automatically based on your deck but it's frustrating because you know that person lost 9/10 games to win the tenth game against you. It's Blizzard match making at it its finest. It's just another way the game punishes you for playing control.
And I think Priest is really bad and probably will not be tier 1 anytime soon, even if Blizzard tries to brute force a lot of strong cards in the next expansion. They need a bunch of stuff to go their way.
I don't play that much.
I think I just got super lucky on big streaks the past two months and that luck ended this month.
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thepotatoman
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Main reason I dislike priest is I find my strategy being limited to "I hope he doesn't have x card" way too often.
Though I guess if a preist defined meta game makes the game slow enough that you can basically plan your deck to last to fatigue, it might not be so bad other than the fact that grinding ranks would take forever.
News at 11, Hearthstone Player doesn't want to queue into bad match ups. I didn't complain, didn't call for nerfs, my post was NOTHING like that fake app-store review some dude made up for Reddit points, all I ever wanted to do is make a funny post about how I'd rather face the strongest class in the game than the worst.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Just had a game with 3 Yoggs in it. That's right me and my opponent survived 3 Yoggs. There may have been multiple Ice Blocks involved
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thepotatoman
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Thinking about it more, Reynad's counterplay video really did solve the reason people hate thoughtsteal so much. No one really expects those cards to be played, so when they do get played, it feels unfair, like they couldn't do anything about it.
Maybe some more thought can be put into countering thoughtsteal, but that does seem to be in the territory of losing because you're trying to play around too much stuff.
Maybe some more thought can be put into countering thoughtsteal, but that does seem to be in the territory of losing because you're trying to play around too much stuff.
Which is the latest malygos druid decklist created? I already crafter fandral.
And I honestly think that all this cards like thoughtsteal, nexus champion saraad, or any other generate x card should also reveal said cards to the opponent, that way at least you could play around them instead of playing secure until they bullshit you with more rng
And I honestly think that all this cards like thoughtsteal, nexus champion saraad, or any other generate x card should also reveal said cards to the opponent, that way at least you could play around them instead of playing secure until they bullshit you with more rng
Mobius and pet octopus
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Yup, and I made a joke about complaints on the worst class in the game.
"priest so OP they sometimes win"
Then you tell me to chill out like I was being super serious... lol man you cracking me up here
I feel like if I posted, "yo water is wet guys" you'd post three paragraphs about how it isn't and I'm asshole for saying it is. I guess I just don't get this "shitpost Levi" meta. Hopefully shitposting Levi gets a big nerf soon.
Familienoberhauptvogel
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You deserved it when you repeatedly claimed matchmaking was deliberately stacked against you.
On to the matter at hand priest is just all around unfun to play against. It's like they thought hard what would be the most obnoxious to play against and then decided that's going to be priest. It's like Draw Go in mtg. They don't beat you until you are ready to commit ritual suicide.
On to the matter at hand priest is just all around unfun to play against. It's like they thought hard what would be the most obnoxious to play against and then decided that's going to be priest. It's like Draw Go in mtg. They don't beat you until you are ready to commit ritual suicide.
Mobius and pet octopus
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25 minute match vs control warrior using anyfin paladin... just like any typical control mirror.
I feel like I've played this deck 1000 times already. It plays really similar to a more standard control paladin deck tbh. And I got gold paladin portrait playing control paladin.
And then immediately queue into another warrior. I almost hope it's dragon. edit: it is edit2: win despite big misplay lol
I feel like I've played this deck 1000 times already. It plays really similar to a more standard control paladin deck tbh. And I got gold paladin portrait playing control paladin.
And then immediately queue into another warrior. I almost hope it's dragon. edit: it is edit2: win despite big misplay lol
I love Control Warriors. Actually, I love all warriors right now (except for C'thun). They're the reason I'm playing at 50%~ WR with my Priest.
If it makes you feel any better, Gorehowl is probably the card I hate most in Hearthstone.
I still win almost every match up, but I have to do it dealing 70+ damage to the typical CW while they just react to cards played (similar to Priest).
Oh, and keep crying. Every time a tear is shed, a priest gets her wings. ← most important part
edit: Priest gets a somewhat pro-active tempo card in Obsidian Bishop (and Resurrect) and the hate begins.
If it makes you feel any better, Gorehowl is probably the card I hate most in Hearthstone.
I still win almost every match up, but I have to do it dealing 70+ damage to the typical CW while they just react to cards played (similar to Priest).
Oh, and keep crying. Every time a tear is shed, a priest gets her wings. ← most important part
edit: Priest gets a somewhat pro-active tempo card in Obsidian Bishop (and Resurrect) and the hate begins.
Mobius and pet octopus
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I was playing against dragon warrior and I accidentally played anyfin when I only had 1 murloc dead. I could have sworn I played a bluegill, I was gonna use it to snipe frothing berserker. I still won though lol. Next turn I cleared with equality but I took an unnecessary 7 damage.
Yeah, I like control mirrors, but sometimes playing a 20-30 minute match followed up by another 20-30 minute match is a bit draining.
I feel like control mirrors is something blizzard has done really well for hearthstone, because of the fatigue mechanic making turns pretty complex is some cases. It's not all about spamming the board to kill your opponent, it's a bit more complex in holding back cards to get maximum value out of it, and then the math behind fatigue. In other card games you just lose once you run out of cards. Hearthstone made it special.
Yeah, I like control mirrors, but sometimes playing a 20-30 minute match followed up by another 20-30 minute match is a bit draining.
I feel like control mirrors is something blizzard has done really well for hearthstone, because of the fatigue mechanic making turns pretty complex is some cases. It's not all about spamming the board to kill your opponent, it's a bit more complex in holding back cards to get maximum value out of it, and then the math behind fatigue. In other card games you just lose once you run out of cards. Hearthstone made it special.
Mobius and pet octopus
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Well you know what I mean, normal rules.
bangbang i'm a timpani
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this malygos druid thing is the OTK warrior of the new expansion. overrated and loses against the meta decks.
Familienoberhauptvogel
Banned
With 60 card decks in magic decking doesn't happen outside of specific situations like the posted card.
Fatigue is a unique mechanic though and makes HS quite different to magic since you can just draw your whole deck consistently and mostly unpunished.
Speaking of drawing your whole deck
MTG has some whacky card
Hold on. A 2 mana 2/2 called Laboratory Maniac that can outright win the game when played?
WHY IS THIS SO FAMILIAR
Mobius and pet octopus
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Anyfin is pretty fun. I kept putting off trying out the deck for far too long. Just clobbered a beast druid who did his copy shenanigans. https://hsreplay.net/replay/skG5DNfcSSpzFe5hQJs94c
I had plenty of healing and lay hands off ivory knight, but then top decked second anyfin for lethal.
I had plenty of healing and lay hands off ivory knight, but then top decked second anyfin for lethal.
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thepotatoman
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Drawing and playing all 6 murloc cards by turn 11 is usually pretty good.
Mobius and pet octopus
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This is what they could do to yogg to nerf him without changing him much.
1. overload spells now cause you overload
-reduces strength of getting elemental destruction and then filling the board with a crazy amount of minions you just drew the very next turn.
2. Spellpower does not buff yogg spells
-this one always seemed weird to me. If yogg is casting the spells, he should not be buffed by your spell power buffs.
3. Playing yogg ends your turn automatically.
-No more charge/windfury shenanigans or whatever you can think of. You play yogg, he ends your turn. Whatever yogg does, yogg does, but you cannot take immediate advantage of it.
Yeah it is lol...
1. overload spells now cause you overload
-reduces strength of getting elemental destruction and then filling the board with a crazy amount of minions you just drew the very next turn.
2. Spellpower does not buff yogg spells
-this one always seemed weird to me. If yogg is casting the spells, he should not be buffed by your spell power buffs.
3. Playing yogg ends your turn automatically.
-No more charge/windfury shenanigans or whatever you can think of. You play yogg, he ends your turn. Whatever yogg does, yogg does, but you cannot take immediate advantage of it.
Yeah it is lol...
Decklist bro?
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
I wonder what I can replace Doomsayer with, only had one.. kinda don't want add another 400 to the cost, maybe I should just slap in Thalnos or Blade
Same question- gave up on dragon priest and spell Mage and have gone all in on Maly Druid. I sense a learning curve. At least I have Malygos and Fandral.
Nvm- scrolled up.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
Maybe acidic ooze, that's a pretty defensive 2 drop. I dunno what could be the best replacement, I'd imagine that doomsayer is pretty important in some match ups like shaman or hunter.
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thepotatoman
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I'd say Rallying Blade or Second Forbidden Healing.
Yeah Doomsayer is really important to anyfin pally. Even in slower matches where it's allowed to go off it still synergizes with Solemn to get you cheap cycle.
I don't know. Doomsayer is a pretty tough card to replace. You need two for consistency (though you usually only want one) and the tempo it often gains you. You also need it to cycle (like papercuts says) and as a way to put your own murlocs in the graveyard.
Maybe a Farseer or Rallying Blade? I don't think RB will help much though against Shaman.
Well, now I can play shaman and never see a bad match up, so blizzard solved that issue for me.
I am so excited for when Yogg is completely ignored in whatever patch comes before Blizzcon. It would be the crowning achievement for this dumb meta to just have every game at Blizzcon decided by Yogg. He is truly the lord of Madness. So many Mad people in Hearthstone.
I drew a pretty decent Mage arena deck (5-1 so far) and twice once I gained what was probably inevitable control and eventually the win the other player left the game. Is that a rage quit, or is there some sort of funky thing they are doing on their end to try and not take the loss?
slightconfuse
Banned
Priest needs another early minion besides cleric. And less gimmick deck arc type.
N'zoth seems like the "best" deck right now
N'zoth seems like the "best" deck right now
HSreplay is great, its always neat observing my opponent had different play than what they actually does
Like why my Dragon Warrior opp don't play his corruptor at this turn 5?
https://hsreplay.net/replay/DNXrDGSnHiubasMMwD8pR6
Weird...
Like why my Dragon Warrior opp don't play his corruptor at this turn 5?
https://hsreplay.net/replay/DNXrDGSnHiubasMMwD8pR6
Weird...
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