CountBlack
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no nerf to the 4/7/7??????
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I can't tell how many abusive sergeants I have. It's says 9+
Call of the Wild nerf is really significant actually if you ask me. One turn later, no more coin it out after highmane, having 2 9 mana cards in your hunter deck. No more hero power plus call in same turn. yeah...
Imagine they nerfed warsong like charge and not what they did. I think at some point they change most cheaper charge minions to work like that, or at least they should. They just killed the last combo deck which wasn't even any good. It's whatever really, I don't think anybody cares at this point, deck was awful anyway.
Shaman nerfs seems like slap on the wrist. Doomhammer got away again. I don't think this would make aggro shaman much different if at all.
Execute nerf, I suggested it. 1 mana was bullshit.
Yogg is 1600 dust.
This is probably the best nerfs they've done so far.
Call of the Wild nerf is really significant actually if you ask me. One turn later, no more coin it out after highmane, having 2 9 mana cards in your hunter deck. No more hero power plus call in same turn. yeah...
Imagine they nerfed warsong like charge and not what they did. I think at some point they change most cheaper charge minions to work like that, or at least they should. They just killed the last combo deck which wasn't even any good. It's whatever really, I don't think anybody cares at this point, deck was awful anyway.
Shaman nerfs seems like slap on the wrist. Doomhammer got away again. I don't think this would make aggro shaman much different if at all.
Execute nerf, I suggested it. 1 mana was bullshit.
Yogg is 1600 dust.
This is probably the best nerfs they've done so far.
I give the nerfs an 8/10 (Shaman not brought down enough and Charge nerf is unfortunate). Much better than the ones they did earlier in the year.
Shaman will still be the best class though. I feel like if these nerfs had came before Karazhan that would've resulted in more balance but now Midrange Shaman is still going to be top dog. Tuskar Totemic is a big hit but not enough especially when Warriors, Hunters, Zoo and Druids are brought down too.
Shaman will still be the best class though. I feel like if these nerfs had came before Karazhan that would've resulted in more balance but now Midrange Shaman is still going to be top dog. Tuskar Totemic is a big hit but not enough especially when Warriors, Hunters, Zoo and Druids are brought down too.
Portugeezer
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Doomhammer still has 8 charges? Seems legit.
I'm pretty new to hearthstone myself but I agree with you. I like all those changes except that Charge one.
And that's perfectly fine, the card was not meant to be used in every single Shaman deck. It might be on the low power side now but that's infinitely better than where it was before.
Good Job Bob
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I just don't see why charge needed a nerf.
OTK Warrior is completely killed.
OTK Warrior is completely killed.
Portugeezer
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bangbang i'm a timpani
Banned
that deck sucked anyway who cares
slightconfuse
Banned
That execute need seems needless. Why 2 mana?
Tuskar totemic need is welcome
Yogg nerf is really big but I think the card now makes more sense in a warrior deck
Tuskar totemic need is welcome
Yogg nerf is really big but I think the card now makes more sense in a warrior deck
Blizzard has been pretty straightforward that they don't like OTK decks because the game doesn't have concepts like Instants in Magic where you can counter this kind of thing.
So that it wasn't super effective at winning the early game instead of just removing big minions.
irfaanator
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how did those wicked witch shaman decks work out like? I can see in that kind with bloodlust
Cuz of
that.
OTK decks are not liked by the community or the devs.
Still, Shaman is the best class.
Portugeezer
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I meant as the first spell, lol.
Blizzard has always nerfed consistent OTKs, this is on par with what they have done in the past. It's just not the type of playstyle they want. It's unfortunate but it is what it is.
Anyfin is getting rotated out and Charge isn't. Charge also inhibits future card design.
They work fine and are viable but Midrange Shaman is just better. So it just gets pushed aside but the deck itself is not bad at all.
because of whirlwind, revenge, blood of ichor, ravaging ghoul, cruel task master, N'Zoth First Mate or even inner rage
I think you can see there are a lot of activators for that card, and while it is ok to have that many, the combo should be costing a little more to... execute
slightconfuse
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Charge makes,sense as a early game execute
Not sure how call of the wild one turn later will matter
The abusive need is weird
Not sure how call of the wild one turn later will matter
The abusive need is weird
I totally thought that was intentional.. I mean, how can they run this game without fixing a bug so big for 7-8 months???
At one mana you can also use it with Patron. At 7 mana you can charge a Patron on a small minion, then WW to get 3-4 Patrons out.
I wouldn't use it but at 1 mana there's more flexibility for other stuff.
I wouldn't use it but at 1 mana there's more flexibility for other stuff.
Zoo matches up really badly against Midrange Shaman though.
Zoo is still gonna be fine with enough Control/Dragon Warriors around.
I think my beast deck could still use CoTW. I frequently don't play it on turn 8 because it isn't always the optimal play. Sometimes you need to bait out board clears and removal and/or get a big board to use it on.
More than the bet, Levi won his love for Hearthstone back. Love you Ben, love you Team 5, love you Garrosh, you and I are going to be spending a lot more time toghter.
I said Yogg was getting changed prior to Blizzcon. A lot of people disagreed with me, I offered to take a ban and/or avatar bet.
You "lost" a bet that means you get to have Garrosh as your avatar for two weeks. I think you're the real winner here.
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I like all the nerfs. Even the Warrior nerf is fair.
But he was part of the bullsh*t. DUN DUN DUNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!
Kibler's love of Dragons know no bounds lol
Just let Warrior draw all the cards in the deck to win. Sounds like Rogue.
Yeah because Mage decks are fun and interactive.
Look at RNG making all the decisions.
Interfectum
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Peace out OTK warrior. You wont be missed.
slightconfuse
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Yogg is still good more often than not. 5-7 spell Yogg is fine
Not going to dust itn,because my pack luck sucks and can never get anything I need.
Not going to dust itn,because my pack luck sucks and can never get anything I need.
Portugeezer
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I feel like Blizzard are going to screw us and not have Yogg disenchant for 1600 dust.
I will DE everything, why not
specially all of my abusive sergeants, it must be something like 1000 dust just for that..
You should dust everything, you can just craft them back with no penalty. Just cash in that dust and wait and see.
specially all of my abusive sergeants, it must be something like 1000 dust just for that..
You should dust everything, you can just craft them back with no penalty. Just cash in that dust and wait and see.
slightconfuse
Banned
Going to get some amazon coins and by some packs soon.
Need another copy of ice block , doomsayer and sheild slam
Need another copy of ice block , doomsayer and sheild slam
4 mana 7/7 being overly powerful is a meme more than anything else. It was not overperforming compared to other cards. I think people just remember getting screwed over by it than any real sense of it's true power.
2 mana rockbiter and nerfed Tuskarr should make it harder for Shaman to push into a dominating board position on turn 4.
2 mana rockbiter and nerfed Tuskarr should make it harder for Shaman to push into a dominating board position on turn 4.
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