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[Mobius and pet octopus]

SOMETIMES I just REALLY REALLY want to rub some shaman's nose in their loss... like really badly.

I just want to be like... "you lost, with that deck? With those card draws? With all that shit you still lost? You should probably uninstall."

https://hsreplay.net/replay/RueNXpbJ6UgiQkNZCPeHhH

 

[QFNS]

My opinion on the Yogg nerf remains that it is still the "most" comeback mechanic the game has ever had. It is now a much less relliable comeback mechanic (as large parts of it will be stopped before it reaches full potential), but there is no other card with even a chance at doing what Yogg can do. Even after the nerf prepare to see the Trolden videos and highlights of Yogg doing some insane shit and winning games for the "lost" side. Now instead of being able to game the system by getting 10-20 spells off your Yogg, thereby guaranteeing a board clear+cards+???, now you really only are likely to get ???+board clear, which migh or might not help depending on what the ???? is.

Much less likely to be impactful, but the salt levels will be higher on those losses for sure. I'm not dusting mine because I don't care about the dust and I'll probably leave him in the decks he's already in just for laughs.

 

[Q8D3vil]

no more free wins for hunter vs palladin now that i can drop my 8 mana legendaries.

 

[Htown]

this just in, shaman is still stupid

 

[TomServo]

DE'd my golden CotW and my Yogg.

I'm at like 8K dust and can't commit to crafting anything.

 

[fertygo]

At least Hunter is ded

 

[ZealousD]

DE'd my golden CotW and my Yogg.

I'm at like 8K dust and can't commit to crafting anything.

Hold it for the next expansion or start crafting golden cards from the classic set.

I usually sit on around 10k dust before I start crafting gold cards, myself.

At least Hunter is ded

Hunter never dies. Hunter finds a way.

 

[jgminto]

When is the iOS patch meant to drop? Can't dust my stuff yet.

 

[Brian Griffin]

My opinion on the Yogg nerf remains that it is still the "most" comeback mechanic the game has ever had. It is now a much less relliable comeback mechanic (as large parts of it will be stopped before it reaches full potential), but there is no other card with even a chance at doing what Yogg can do. Even after the nerf prepare to see the Trolden videos and highlights of Yogg doing some insane shit and winning games for the "lost" side. Now instead of being able to game the system by getting 10-20 spells off your Yogg, thereby guaranteeing a board clear+cards+???, now you really only are likely to get ???+board clear, which migh or might not help depending on what the ???? is.

Much less likely to be impactful, but the salt levels will be higher on those losses for sure. I'm not dusting mine because I don't care about the dust and I'll probably leave him in the decks he's already in just for laughs.

Same. As you said, he's still the only "oh shit button" card in the game. I've always played him when lethal is on board or likely coming next turn, now it will just help me slightly less on turns where I am guaranteed to lose if I don't play him.

 

[Mobius and pet octopus]

At least Hunter is ded

Just played against a hunter. They weren't even that good before the nerf.

 

[fertygo]

I had to dust my yogg because its gold, gonna to made sure he truly sucked for druid to decide to recraft the regular one or not.

Just played against a hunter. They weren't even that good before the nerf.

that's why I said they're ded.

they not that good, but highmane on t6 and call on t8 is one of the most tilting shit

 

[Yaboosh]

Might turn my Yogg into boom.

 

[Levi]

Might turn my Yogg into boom.

Like poetry. Turning Standard's OP neutral leg into Wild's OP neutral leg.

 

[Otnopolit]

Bought 7 classic and WotG packs and got two legendaries I already had out of BOTH sets. Thanks, Blizz? I guess 1250 dust for $20 is pretty good, eh?

 

[Yaboosh]

Like poetry. Turning Standard's OP neutral leg into Wild's OP neutral leg.

Oh yeah. The swings boom produces are sightly less severe.

 

[JesseZao]

Dark Iron Skulker has a sweet new animation. It's white smoke now.

Edit: Seems to be a change to most Rogue smoke animations.

 

[hutna]

Update live on iOS.

 

[Mobius and pet octopus]

I just played my second face warrior where I got neither of the 2 oozes in my deck. Feelsbadman.

This guy had a war axe buffed to 6 damage before it broke. Then he had a arcanite reaper with 3 charges at 6. An ooze would have basically been an auto-win, and I finally drew it after he used his last weapon when I had already won or lost the game. spoiler: I won

 

[KuroNeeko]

Might turn my Yogg into boom.

Sacrilege!

 

[Mobius and pet octopus]

Dark Iron Skulker has a sweet new animation. It's white smoke now.

Edit: Seems to be a change to most Rogue smoke animations.

Nice. I'll have to play some more maly rogue later. I must have missed it since I did play some earlier post-patch for a little.

 

[The Wizard]

Played two yoggs post nerf. In one he never died, cleared opponents board which I had no answer to and concealed himself. In the other one opponent had sylvannas up, I was going to lose and yogg gives me ice block then as soon as he is stolen by opponent casts death on himself.
Too much fun to dust!

 

[Papercuts]

Lol, why is Yogg's card text highlighted for the "these cards have changed" popup?

For all of Blizzard's talk about making things not confusing for new players this doesn't actually show what they changed with the card at all.

 

[Mobius and pet octopus]

Lol, why is Yogg's card text highlighted for the "these cards have changed" popup?

For all of Blizzard's talk about making things not confusing for new players this doesn't actually show what they changed with the card at all.

"My yogg is broken. It only cast 3 spells when I had 30 cast the entire game." - Common complaint about yogg for the next 2 weeks.

Seeing Yogg polymorph himself on the first spell is intensely entertaining.

10 mana 1/1 baby!

 

[Yaboosh]

Seeing Yogg polymorph himself on the first spell is intensely entertaining.

 

[ZeroX03]

Had a really bad night last night with aggro Shaman and now the patch lands

Going all in on midrange now I guess.

I don't think Call and Yogg are nerfed hard enough to be worth dusting.

 

[Htown]

I don't think Call and Yogg are nerfed hard enough to be worth dusting.

I might dust one copy of CotW because I think putting 2 in at 9 mana might be a bit much

 

[fertygo]

look how busted this shit is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxsFH_oFybI (pre-nerf tuskarr breakdown)

shaman still busted but at least the most tilting thing about them is gone

 

[Yaboosh]

Watching Johnny stone test out the charge change in a Yogg control warrior.


He killed a highmane, dropped magnataur alpha, charged it triggering cat trick, then killed all three minions. Wombo combo.

 

[Mobius and pet octopus]

It's a good thing blizzard gives us limited deck slots. I have like 150 decks saved in HDT. I can't imagine navigating them all in the client.

 

[sibarraz]

Where could I get a tyrande? Prime isnt on my country and I dont have a Credit Card

I was expecting g2a to sold it but neither

 

[Dahbomb]

look how busted this shit is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HxsFH_oFybI (pre-nerf tuskarr breakdown)

shaman still busted but at least the most tilting thing about them is gone

Sounds about right. That 70% win rate when Totem Golem is summoned on turn 3.

 

[Yaboosh]

Sounds about right. That 70% win rate when Totem Golem is summoned on turn 3.

The sub 50% winrate for rolling a basic totem seems bizarre. I get the massive upswing from rolling high, but it seems like it is a huge problem if you roll basic.

 

[jgminto]

I feel like the execute change is going to end up being one of the biggest. It's so damn clunky now.

 

[A Pretty Panda]

Execute change

 

[fertygo]

I feel like the execute change is going to end up being one of the biggest. It's so damn clunky now.

Any kind of proactive warrior will had trouble with 2 mana execute, may as well not run hard removal

control warrior not so much

 

[Familienoberhauptvogel]

Yass execute was way to universal an answer with any activator. Most of which already replace themselves.

 

[IceMarker]

I think execute will be just fine, especially in Control Warrior. I don't know how many times I've floated mana after playing execute in that deck.

 

[ZealousD]

The sub 50% winrate for rolling a basic totem seems bizarre. I get the massive upswing from rolling high, but it seems like it is a huge problem if you roll basic.

Before we had Thing From Below, Tuskarr Totemic wasn't actually that popular of a card.

 

[IceMarker]

Before we had Thing From Below, Tuskarr Totemic wasn't actually that popular of a card.

And because it rolled vitality totem as well (now in Wild).

 

[Yaboosh]

Before we had Thing From Below, Tuskarr Totemic wasn't actually that popular of a card.

I get that it isn't good, but it seems actively terrible/catastrophic when it rolls basic to lower your winrate down to 45%. How many cards in the game would do that when played?

 

[clav]

Dusted everything although I kept the regular abusive sergeants since I need them for a OTK deck.

Such value.

 

[sibarraz]

How is tuskar now?

 

[jgminto]

Any kind of proactive warrior will had trouble with 2 mana execute, may as well not run hard removal

control warrior not so much

Control Warrior is still going to run it but they lose the ability to easily combine it with minions or other spells. Those swings are what usually won games for CW against Midrange decks.

 

[RecRoulette]

Got the welcome pack. Got Grommash as the free card, and got Cenarius and golden Greenskin out of the packs. Not bad. Will probably save my dust for the next expansion.

 

[bangbang i'm a timpani]

why the fuck is everyone playing control warrior now.

for the first time ever i made an anyfin deck and all i'm playing is freaking warriors

 

[Yaboosh]

why the fuck is everyone playing control warrior now.

for the first time ever i made an anyfin deck and all i'm playing is freaking warriors

Countering that freeze mage meta.

 

[bangbang i'm a timpani]

Countering that freeze mage meta.

i wish



god anyfin is such a boring deck to play it takes forever to set up an OTK that you basically dont launch until fatigue

 

[thepotatoman]

The sub 50% winrate for rolling a basic totem seems bizarre. I get the massive upswing from rolling high, but it seems like it is a huge problem if you roll basic.

Every deck has a few cards that have bad win rates compared to the deck's overall average. Obviously you can't have every card be above average, because that's just not how averages work.

Since we're talking about the stats of the general public, matchmaking should make the overall win rate close to 50%, so 45% isn't that big of a drop. I don't think anyone thought a basic totem tuskarr is an above average card of all the cards in the Shaman list.

 

[ZeroX03]

Execute change was fantastic.

I might dust one copy of CotW because I think putting 2 in at 9 mana might be a bit much

Feels like it's still too good not to want it consistently. It seems rough running two 9 drops, but it's not like Hunter is running many/any other big drops except Highmane. Call is too often that card you want to top deck as a finisher.

If you're running something that's super aggro focused or much slower I could see not wanting two.

Before we had Thing From Below, Tuskarr Totemic wasn't actually that popular of a card.

Unbound Elemental is back kids

 

[Yaboosh]

Every deck has a few cards that have bad win rates compared to the deck's overall average. Obviously you can't have every card be above average, because that's just not how averages work.

Since we're talking about the stats of the general public, matchmaking should make the overall win rate close to 50%, so 45% isn't that big of a drop. I don't think anyone thought a basic totem tuskarr is an above average card of all the cards in the Shaman list.

That seems like a pretty big drop for a single card.

Is there a site that shows winrates by cards played?