Umbasaborne
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So like…spring 2024…jesus christ this industry
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Hi-Fi Rush Leaker Claims Starfield And Redfall's Development Is In "Rough Shape" (Rumour)
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DenchDeckard
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There's always negative shit surrounding Microsoft, they can't a shake it.
Release a hit and your studios are still curses to be suffering. If there are serious rumours that it's in bad shape then its got to be true. No smoke without fire.
All of me hopes it's like those rumours where resi 7 was in bad shape on ps5.
It's probably true though.
Pants!
How does this actually happen though?
Release a hit and your studios are still curses to be suffering. If there are serious rumours that it's in bad shape then its got to be true. No smoke without fire.
All of me hopes it's like those rumours where resi 7 was in bad shape on ps5.
It's probably true though.
Pants!
How does this actually happen though?
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OmegaSupreme
advanced basic bitch
Welcome to modern triple AAA game development.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
Redfall and Starfield aren't anywhere close to being able to mitigate massive losses in other divisions, so rushing them out sounds like complete nonsense.
Redfall also didn't look rough at all...seemed pretty much ready to go gold shortly
So this rumor sounds like bullshit to me
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3liteDragon
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1.How sure are you guys on a scale of 10?
2. How confident are you guys in your sources?
I’m kinda finding this hard to believe which is why I’m asking.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
which redfall downgrade? I mean, they showed footage last week and announced a release date in a few months
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DenchDeckard
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Yeah, redfall looks basically done...nothing off with that. Starfield though....who knows.....
Damnit
HeisenbergFX4
......you made me sad.
And what the hell is a redfall downgrade? There's no downgrade at all on that.
Damnit
HeisenbergFX4
......you made me sad.And what the hell is a redfall downgrade? There's no downgrade at all on that.
ProtoByte
Weeb Underling
Can't say that I saw anything that indicates Redfall is in rough shape other than really subpar visuals, but it just looks like a bad game.
As for Starfield, it's funny that anyone is surprised. This is Bugthesda Game Studios we're talking about. Only now, they've widened the scale up to literal galactic proportions with more procedural generation. You expected them to come out polished?
As for Starfield, it's funny that anyone is surprised. This is Bugthesda Game Studios we're talking about. Only now, they've widened the scale up to literal galactic proportions with more procedural generation. You expected them to come out polished?
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Jinzo Prime
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They should release these games this year, regardless of the state they're in.
Another delay would be worse for their reputation than a glitchy game at this point.
Another delay would be worse for their reputation than a glitchy game at this point.
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ChorizoPicozo
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....i don't think Readfall's issues are going to be in the graphics side of things.Yeah, redfall looks basically done...nothing off with that. Starfield though....who knows.....
Damnit
And what the hell is a redfall downgrade? There's no downgrade at all on that.
marjo
Member
Yup. The recent quarterly report indicated that Azure is doing extremely well, and is making them a fortune. This 'leak' is pure bullshit.
Ass of Can Whooping
Member
Yeah it's not like there was anything to downgrade in the first place
feynoob
Banned
It's arkane. So probably same as the rest of their games.
You either love them or hate them.
Crayon
Member
They can't be completely separate. Spencer didn't go to activision on his own and spend 70 billion.
HeisenbergFX4
Member
If I was a betting man I would put large sums of money on what this guy says.
Now needing another year and MS actually giving it to them is likely 2 different things as we could be seeing another Cyberpunk
Mr Moose
Member
Bad character model animations when runningYeah, redfall looks basically done...nothing off with that. Starfield though....who knows.....
Damnit
And what the hell is a redfall downgrade? There's no downgrade at all on that.
I'm joking, but they are bad.
ChorizoPicozo
Member
+ some identity issues. (at least are the vibes i am getting)
MasterCornholio
Member
Is anyone else hearing this?
At this point I think they are just making excuses as to why they are spreading out the games for growth and revenue to gp and not meeting their PR advertised dates.
DenchDeckard
Moderated wildly
Touché lol gg
Yeah, fair point. It's not the best looking game but after being hooked on dying light 2 I've got high hopes it's gonna be fun.Bad character model animations when running
I'm joking, but they are bad.
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Spukc
always chasing the next thrill
i know right? You should read his book too !
ProtoByte
Weeb Underling
By that logic, no one in the Xbox division would've gotten laid off in the couple weeks.
You're right, it's not going to cover losses to a great extent, but in times like this, companies pay attention to every dollar they're spending and bringing in. If Starfield doesn't make it before the end of June, then it's missed a public target. If it doesn't make it out this year, Xbox is going to look very, very bad internally and externally.
Well. What they showed of Redfall was very edited and curated footage. It is with every game, but it was especially so there; what with the non-perspective camera angles and chopped up gameplay sequences. On top of that, the visuals did look less than polished.
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HeisenbergFX4
Member
Honestly don't know where it originated from but when certain people repeat it they believe it and when certain people believe it I believe it, if that makes sense
He is not the source though.
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Mr Hyde
Member
Redfall looked fine in the trailer. Arkane still got a couple of months before release to polish it up. Another year for Starfield would suck big time but you don´t want another Cyberpunk PR-nightmare. But when it comes to Bethesda I ain´t got much hope for it anyway not to be a buggy mess, regardless when they drop it. It is what it is.
MasterCornholio
Member
I know your not the type to pull rumors from known bullshitters. We will see what happens though but Bethesda does have a quality control issue with their games.
feynoob
Banned
Dude the game is day1 gamepass.
ManaByte
Banned
I’ve heard it’s amazing.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
The only thing I can think of is xCloud being the "massive losses" attributed to azure based on what MS have been saying to regulators but even I'm not sure that has any merit.
ProtoByte
Weeb Underling
Correct. Isn't the whole idea that Starfield is going to be the biggest draw to Gamepass yet?
HeisenbergFX4
Member
Same
feynoob
Banned
And it will do that.
MS isn't worried about financially in that department.
Couple of millions means nothing to a company that makes freaking billions. As long as the game brings enough gamepass users.
feynoob
Banned
Can I get these sources?
I want to use it for my club Arsenal.
We need a midfielder badly
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LordOfChaos
Member
If Starfield in particular (maybe I just know less about Redfall, but one is the clear larger title) isn't good and the Activision deal doesn't go through, things look rougher than they have for a while for Xbox
Also still waiting on any clarity on Halo Infinite story DLC...
Also still waiting on any clarity on Halo Infinite story DLC...
SteelCurtain 59
Member
It's always the same with these leakers. If the game ends up being in rough shape everybody remembers the leakers, if the game isn't in rough shape they hide away and people forget they were wrong, so the next time they have a leak everybody listens to them
ProtoByte
Weeb Underling
Hang on, now. That isn't true. Everything any company does is in thr concern of finances. Microsoft has just, to this point, been willing to play the long game with gamepass. But they intend to collect money with it. A lot of it.
Azure losing money makes me think that the pressure for performance, subscribers, revenue, profit, and/or otherwise is going to be high at Microsft.
Jennings
Member
I'd be unaffected if they push Redfall and Starfield to 2024 because I don't mind waiting a little longer for quality.
I've got plenty else (third party stuff) to look forward to this year, and as long as that stuff still arrives this year I'll be satisfied. Even in an alternate reality where every other game in the world gets delayed to 2024 I'd still be fine because I have a healthy backlog of quality games.
But I know that not everybody is in the same position as me, so I sympathize for those folks that have nothing else to do until Redfall and Starfield come out, and I hope they won't suffer too much.
I've got plenty else (third party stuff) to look forward to this year, and as long as that stuff still arrives this year I'll be satisfied. Even in an alternate reality where every other game in the world gets delayed to 2024 I'd still be fine because I have a healthy backlog of quality games.
But I know that not everybody is in the same position as me, so I sympathize for those folks that have nothing else to do until Redfall and Starfield come out, and I hope they won't suffer too much.
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DeaDPo0L84
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Xbox is in a tough spot cause the two things they need to happen go against eachother directly. They both need the game to be great at launch with minimal issues, but they also need it to release sooner rather than later.
If it needs more time just push it to fall. If they force it out cause of higher ups, investors, etc, like CP2077, then they deserve all the criticism they'll receive.
If it needs more time just push it to fall. If they force it out cause of higher ups, investors, etc, like CP2077, then they deserve all the criticism they'll receive.
James Sawyer Ford
Gold Member
Which post?
Have just posted a couple of 'snips' for the recent 10Q. They lost margin % but no revenue or operating income so quite confused myself.
feynoob
Banned
The difference is that gamepass is their long term project here.
They are investing heavily on this project.
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feynoob
Banned
It's people trying to be smart with their leaks.Where is Azure losing tons of money?
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