Noted leaker claims to know the Xbox Ally Release date and price (Ally: $499. Ally X: $799. Preorder in August, release in October)

Listen Supreme J - I'm not sure whose alt you are but I didn't serve 4 years on this god forsaken forum to be spoken to by a weanie without a benie.

Put this on when you address you elders son:

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So much hate because it's say Xbox last week people was falling over the place with the MsI claw 8 AI now Xbox ally same thing better windows integrated now it's DOA…..Even though it has better dam near everything then steam deck and switch 2…..

$499? It's going to sell like hotcakes. Many people think it's an Xbox, and judging by the social media comments, a LOT of people want this handheld.

Predict 8-10 million units in three years or more.

Plus the other Xbox PCs.

this doesn't do anything new that the OG ROG Ally and the Steam Deck don't already do and for that matter it doesn't even do what you're describing…

but you're a neo account that joined a year & half ago yet has somehow only ever posted in this thread so yeah
I predict more alt accounts coming out of the woodwork. It's an Asus PC handheld, goodluck selling over 2 million units.
 
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Listen Supreme J - I'm not sure whose alt you are but I didn't serve 4 years on this god forsaken forum to be spoken to by a weanie without a benie.

Put this on when you address you elders son:

iu
Aha, although you may like this fashion, we're not here to give each other advice on dressing. I think it's appropriate to show respect to the guest and say hello and with no stressing.
 
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Bring back CBOAT
Blast from the past. What ever happened to that guy?

On the topic, I find those price points attractive for what this potentially brings to the table. That said, given ASUS just increased the prices of the existing ROG Ally units by $100, I suspect these prices are nonsense.

I have a ROG Ally and, while I like the concept, nothing yet seems to fix that fact that Windows is a hinderance when it comes to handhelds. I wonder if they will open up this new interface to other handhelds PCs or if it will be locked into this ASUS model for an undisclosed period of time? Regardless, if (and it's a big if) these prices are real and the interface is as good as touted, I could see myself jumping at the $800 model.
 
I have a ROG Ally and, while I like the concept, nothing yet seems to fix that fact that Windows is a hinderance when it comes to handhelds. I wonder if they will open up this new interface to other handhelds PCs or if it will be locked into this ASUS model for an undisclosed period of time? Regardless, if (and it's a big if) these prices are real and the interface is as good as touted, I could see myself jumping at the $800 model.

Fixing the Windows experience for handhelds is probably the biggest selling point of this thing
 
Disagree. It has a higher resolution, 120hz screen, twice the storage, should have better battery life, and better performance.


The Ally X is the really interesting one. Should be like 50% faster than the Steam Deck.
Yeah, until there's a Steam Deck 2, this will surely have better specs. I mean, there's already plenty of handhelds out there that are already beefier than it. Steam Deck just tends to have the best middle ground. I'm really curious and interested to see what they do with the next model.
 
I wonder if they will open up this new interface to other handhelds PCs or if it will be locked into this ASUS model for an undisclosed period of time?
I could definitely see this being exclusive to ASUS handhelds for marketing reasons.
 
Fixing the Windows experience for handhelds is probably the biggest selling point of this thing

Would be interesting seeing the performance comparisons from the tech channels to see how effective, if at all, it is.
 
Fixing the Windows experience for handhelds is probably the biggest selling point of this thing
Yes.

I've seen people talking about SteamOS as a much better option without seeing what this optimized version will bring, but I remember when I had the Steam Deck and it was far from perfect, I would find incompatible games, I had to keep changing Proton versions in certain situations, the SteamOS frame limiter caused input lag,
I've had problems with the game crashing after putting the console to sleep and waking it up, and so many other situations.

If Microsoft gets this system right, it will be excellent.
 
Fixing the Windows experience for handhelds is probably the biggest selling point of this thing
100%. Every time I turn my Ally on I end up letting out a groan while windows loads. Far and away the worst handheld gaming interface in existence.
 
Wait was that confirmed earlier this week? I thought that would only happen for older ASUS models.

Yeah, that's what MS said.

The best part of all these Windows changes is that you won't necessarily need a new device to benefit from them. "The Xbox full-screen experience will first come to the ROG Xbox Ally and the ROG Xbox Ally X, and our next focus will be updating the in-market ROG Ally and the ROG Ally X," says Sones. "Similar full-screen Xbox experiences will be rolling out to other Windows handhelds, starting next year."

 
Yeah, that's what MS said.

The best part of all these Windows changes is that you won't necessarily need a new device to benefit from them. "The Xbox full-screen experience will first come to the ROG Xbox Ally and the ROG Xbox Ally X, and our next focus will be updating the in-market ROG Ally and the ROG Ally X," says Sones. "Similar full-screen Xbox experiences will be rolling out to other Windows handhelds, starting next year."

Awesome. That's really good news.
 
Fixing the Windows experience for handhelds is probably the biggest selling point of this thing
I'm really interested to see if this version of Windows ends up being compatible with my Steam Deck OLED. I'd consider wiping it clean just to have more compatibility of games thanks to the Windows OS.
 
In the end this fills a Deck like role of making a proof of concept for the OS, or in this case uh, overlay, so other handheld makers can start using it.

That is the real point behind this, for this Xbox overlay thing to compete with SteamOS on handhelds in general, not necessarily to sell a billion Asus Xbox Ally's. Just as it was never the point to sell loads of Steam Decks either...
 
I'm really interested to see if this version of Windows ends up being compatible with my Steam Deck OLED. I'd consider wiping it clean just to have more compatibility of games thanks to the Windows OS.

That would be interesting. Hopefully we get a version for general Windows users. Having a gaming mode to improve performance would be welcome across the board, I think.
 
The question is how many such devices will there be in the future. It would be better if they focused on just these two Asus models at the handheld level and the other Xbox PCs would cover other areas, such as a desktop console version.
 
That would be interesting. Hopefully we get a version for general Windows users. Having a gaming mode to improve performance would be welcome across the board, I think.
Including desktop PCs. Have the option to boot into a lower profile version of Windows aimed at gaming would be amazing. Not that I mind Windows all that much now, particularly with a multi-screen setup, but it would be interesting to be able to do so when you wanted to eek out more performance from your machine.
 
The question is how many such devices will there be in the future. It would be better if they focused on just these two Asus models at the handheld level and the other Xbox PCs would cover other areas, such as a desktop console version.

Why would you want this OS limited to two models?
 
Good question. But, what is better, if too many similar products come to market and there are 10 types of Xbox, or if customers can identify the Xbox with one device family?

This isn't an Xbox. It just a handheld PC with Xbox branding. Regardless, it is better for folks to have a choice and limiting this update to one brand makes no sense.
 
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This isn't an Xbox. It just a handheld PC with Xbox branding. Regardless, it is better for folks to have a choice and limiting this update to one brand makes no sense.
It's going to be an Xbox, that's how they presented it, and that's what many people already think. How much of a console it will be is questionable, but since the internal Xbox team is working on the operating system that basically defines it all, I don't think we should underestimate the importance of the Xbox name here.
 
It's going to be an Xbox, that's how they presented it, and that's what many people already think. How much of a console it will be is questionable, but since the internal Xbox team is working on the operating system that basically defines it all, I don't think we should underestimate the importance of the Xbox name here.

When people think of Xbox, they think of the console. This ain't Xbox console. You can buy into this corporate marketing if you want to, but that's all it is. Either way, it is a good thing that Microsoft isn't making these Windows enhancements exclusive to Asus. Lenovo and others will get them next year. Definitely good stuff for Windows handhelds.
 
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When people think of Xbox, they think of the console. This ain't Xbox console. You can buy into this corporate marketing if you want to, but that's all it is. Either way, it is a good thing that Microsoft isn't making these Windows enhancements exclusive to Asus. Lenovo and others will get them next year. Definitely good stuff for Windows handhelds.
What's the difference really though? The line between PC and consoles are already blurred, that train left with the PS4/Xbox One. Hell the Xbox console OS already is running a modified version of Windows and has for the last 12 years. Might as well consolidate them, which is what this is pathing towards.
 
Good question. But, what is better, if too many similar products come to market and there are 10 types of Xbox, or if customers can identify the Xbox with one device family?
It's going to be an Xbox, that's how they presented it, and that's what many people already think. How much of a console it will be is questionable, but since the internal Xbox team is working on the operating system that basically defines it all, I don't think we should underestimate the importance of the Xbox name here.

It could be that the (current) endgame for MS is to rebrand Xbox to mean gaming focused devices that come with a bespoke OS. So you could buy a Xbox laptop, Xbox portable, Xbox desktop, Xbox tablet...all with different specs suiting customers wallets/needs. If so it would be fucking confusing for a while, that's for sure. Especially if they still plan to manufacture actual Xbox consoles in the future.

But who knows with MS, they do love to pivot.
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What's the difference really though? The line between PC and consoles are already blurred, that train left with the PS4/Xbox One. Hell the Xbox console OS already is running a modified version of Windows and has for the last 12 years. Might as well consolidate them, which is what this is pathing towards.

Difference is Xbox is a close ecosystem and Windows is open platform. Xbox games won't play on Windows unless they are Play Anywhere titles, the vast majority of which are not. Windows being the underlying OS doesn't change any of that.
 
When people think of Xbox, they think of the console. This ain't Xbox console. You can buy into this corporate marketing if you want to, but that's all it is. Either way, it is a good thing that Microsoft isn't making these Windows enhancements exclusive to Asus. Lenovo and others will get them next year. Definitely good stuff for Windows handhelds.
This isn't just about whether I buy the marketing or not. Look, if this device really has a user interface that's as fast and responsive as a traditional Xbox, if you can launch games with a single click and it feels like a console, then it's a console. A lot depends on the overall OS design, that's a fact. We'll see in practice.
 
Difference is Xbox is a close ecosystem and Windows is open platform. Xbox games won't play on Windows unless they are Play Anywhere titles, the vast majority of which are not. Windows being the underlying OS doesn't change any of that.
I understand that, but this is obviously a branching off point. We already know they are working to bring what they can forward. That's like saying PS4 doesn't play PS3 games natively, so the PS4 isn't a PlayStation.
 
Disagree. It has a higher resolution, 120hz screen, twice the storage, should have better battery life, and better performance.


The Ally X is the really interesting one. Should be like 50% faster than the Steam Deck.
Why would you even want that since these handhelds don't have the power to play good looking games from the past decade at native 1080p/60 with good settings, needless to say 120hz -- which is a pointless refresh rate for any of these devices, since on the 90hz OLED Steam Deck you can already lock your framerate to 40, 45, etc.
 
This isn't just about whether I buy the marketing or not. Look, if this device really has a user interface that's as fast and responsive as a traditional Xbox, if you can launch games with a single click and it feels like a console, then it's a console. A lot depends on the overall OS design, that's a fact. We'll see in practice.

I understand that, but this is obviously a branching off point. We already know they are working to bring what they can forward. That's like saying PS4 doesn't play PS3 games natively, so the PS4 isn't a PlayStation.

A PC can play PlayStation games. I guess we can call PCs "PlayStation" as well. Believe what you want, but if Jez Corden gets it then anyone should be able to.

"Yes, Microsoft's Xbox team is leading development on the software experience, but that's where the "Xbox" ends here."

 
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The Rog Xbox Ally X with the new AI Z2 extreme at $799 sounds wishful.

Unless MS is actually absorbing some of the cost to get their new OS out on a powerful handheld asap.
If that's the case I will wait for a BestBuy sale (or even better, sale and near new return) and install SteamOS/Bazzite. 😉
 
Is this gonna be aimed at the XBros? Because everyone else in the handheld market is going to be just fine with a Switch or Steamdeck.
Funny how every time something new shows up in gaming, there's always someone ready to play bouncer

If Xbox wants to drop a handheld, let it. More choice isn't a threat
 
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