Walter Matthau
Member
I wonder how many will buy the base model thinking it's as powerful as the X.
All marketing and influencer coverage are going to use the X.
All marketing and influencer coverage are going to use the X.
Noted leaker claims to know the Xbox Ally Release date and price (Ally: $499. Ally X: $799. Preorder in August, release in October)
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Banjo64
cumsessed
Listen Supreme J - I'm not sure whose alt you are but I didn't serve 4 years on this god forsaken forum to be spoken to by a weanie without a benie.
Put this on when you address you elders son:
demigod
Member
I predict more alt accounts coming out of the woodwork. It's an Asus PC handheld, goodluck selling over 2 million units.
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Brigandier
Member
I'd pay £699 for the X but that things gonna be £999
SomeNorseGuy
Gold Member
Not sure I'd be able to pass it up if true. Better start getting practice doing the daily salute just in case.
SupremeJ
Neo Member
Aha, although you may like this fashion, we're not here to give each other advice on dressing. I think it's appropriate to show respect to the guest and say hello and with no stressing.Listen Supreme J - I'm not sure whose alt you are but I didn't serve 4 years on this god forsaken forum to be spoken to by a weanie without a benie.
Put this on when you address you elders son:
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BennyBlanco
aka IMurRIVAL69
Not sure I'd be able to pass it up if true. Better start getting practice doing the daily salute just in case.
First thing I'd do is install SteamOS
Banjo64
cumsessed
Say hello to me then.
Blast from the past. What ever happened to that guy?
On the topic, I find those price points attractive for what this potentially brings to the table. That said, given ASUS just increased the prices of the existing ROG Ally units by $100, I suspect these prices are nonsense.
I have a ROG Ally and, while I like the concept, nothing yet seems to fix that fact that Windows is a hinderance when it comes to handhelds. I wonder if they will open up this new interface to other handhelds PCs or if it will be locked into this ASUS model for an undisclosed period of time? Regardless, if (and it's a big if) these prices are real and the interface is as good as touted, I could see myself jumping at the $800 model.
SomeNorseGuy
Gold Member
I truly hope Gabe is hard at work whipping the r&d boys to update the SteamOS to support more hardware.
Topher
Identifies as young
Fixing the Windows experience for handhelds is probably the biggest selling point of this thing
SupremeJ
Neo Member
Then if you ordered an Xbox Ally
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MiguelItUp
Member
Yeah, until there's a Steam Deck 2, this will surely have better specs. I mean, there's already plenty of handhelds out there that are already beefier than it. Steam Deck just tends to have the best middle ground. I'm really curious and interested to see what they do with the next model.
Kacho
Member
I could definitely see this being exclusive to ASUS handhelds for marketing reasons.
Topher
Identifies as young
Timed exclusive. Other handhelds will get it next year.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Would be interesting seeing the performance comparisons from the tech channels to see how effective, if at all, it is.
Kacho
Member
Wait was that confirmed earlier this week? I thought that would only happen for older ASUS models.
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playbignbox
Member
Yes.
I've seen people talking about SteamOS as a much better option without seeing what this optimized version will bring, but I remember when I had the Steam Deck and it was far from perfect, I would find incompatible games, I had to keep changing Proton versions in certain situations, the SteamOS frame limiter caused input lag,
I've had problems with the game crashing after putting the console to sleep and waking it up, and so many other situations.
If Microsoft gets this system right, it will be excellent.
100%. Every time I turn my Ally on I end up letting out a groan while windows loads. Far and away the worst handheld gaming interface in existence.
Topher
Identifies as young
Yeah, that's what MS said.
The best part of all these Windows changes is that you won't necessarily need a new device to benefit from them. "The Xbox full-screen experience will first come to the ROG Xbox Ally and the ROG Xbox Ally X, and our next focus will be updating the in-market ROG Ally and the ROG Ally X," says Sones. "Similar full-screen Xbox experiences will be rolling out to other Windows handhelds, starting next year."
This is how Microsoft is combining Windows and Xbox for handheld PCs
The full-screen Xbox experience is here
www.theverge.com
Kacho
Member
Awesome. That's really good news.Yeah, that's what MS said.
The best part of all these Windows changes is that you won't necessarily need a new device to benefit from them. "The Xbox full-screen experience will first come to the ROG Xbox Ally and the ROG Xbox Ally X, and our next focus will be updating the in-market ROG Ally and the ROG Ally X," says Sones. "Similar full-screen Xbox experiences will be rolling out to other Windows handhelds, starting next year."
This is how Microsoft is combining Windows and Xbox for handheld PCs
The full-screen Xbox experience is here
SecretAgentHam
Member
I'm really interested to see if this version of Windows ends up being compatible with my Steam Deck OLED. I'd consider wiping it clean just to have more compatibility of games thanks to the Windows OS.
BlackTron
Member
In the end this fills a Deck like role of making a proof of concept for the OS, or in this case uh, overlay, so other handheld makers can start using it.
That is the real point behind this, for this Xbox overlay thing to compete with SteamOS on handhelds in general, not necessarily to sell a billion Asus Xbox Ally's. Just as it was never the point to sell loads of Steam Decks either...
That is the real point behind this, for this Xbox overlay thing to compete with SteamOS on handhelds in general, not necessarily to sell a billion Asus Xbox Ally's. Just as it was never the point to sell loads of Steam Decks either...
kikii
Member
it will be 1K, its extas1s after all
Topher
Identifies as young
That would be interesting. Hopefully we get a version for general Windows users. Having a gaming mode to improve performance would be welcome across the board, I think.
Including desktop PCs. Have the option to boot into a lower profile version of Windows aimed at gaming would be amazing. Not that I mind Windows all that much now, particularly with a multi-screen setup, but it would be interesting to be able to do so when you wanted to eek out more performance from your machine.
Topher
Identifies as young
Why would you want this OS limited to two models?
SupremeJ
Neo Member
Good question. But, what is better, if too many similar products come to market and there are 10 types of Xbox, or if customers can identify the Xbox with one device family?
Topher
Identifies as young
This isn't an Xbox. It just a handheld PC with Xbox branding. Regardless, it is better for folks to have a choice and limiting this update to one brand makes no sense.
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Radical_3d
Member
Isn't 799$ very cheap compared with other system that pack that SoC?
SupremeJ
Neo Member
It's going to be an Xbox, that's how they presented it, and that's what many people already think. How much of a console it will be is questionable, but since the internal Xbox team is working on the operating system that basically defines it all, I don't think we should underestimate the importance of the Xbox name here.
Topher
Identifies as young
When people think of Xbox, they think of the console. This ain't Xbox console. You can buy into this corporate marketing if you want to, but that's all it is. Either way, it is a good thing that Microsoft isn't making these Windows enhancements exclusive to Asus. Lenovo and others will get them next year. Definitely good stuff for Windows handhelds.
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Guardian Monkey
Member
What's the difference really though? The line between PC and consoles are already blurred, that train left with the PS4/Xbox One. Hell the Xbox console OS already is running a modified version of Windows and has for the last 12 years. Might as well consolidate them, which is what this is pathing towards.
SomeNorseGuy
Gold Member
It could be that the (current) endgame for MS is to rebrand Xbox to mean gaming focused devices that come with a bespoke OS. So you could buy a Xbox laptop, Xbox portable, Xbox desktop, Xbox tablet...all with different specs suiting customers wallets/needs. If so it would be fucking confusing for a while, that's for sure. Especially if they still plan to manufacture actual Xbox consoles in the future.
But who knows with MS, they do love to pivot.
Topher
Identifies as young
Difference is Xbox is a close ecosystem and Windows is open platform. Xbox games won't play on Windows unless they are Play Anywhere titles, the vast majority of which are not. Windows being the underlying OS doesn't change any of that.
SupremeJ
Neo Member
This isn't just about whether I buy the marketing or not. Look, if this device really has a user interface that's as fast and responsive as a traditional Xbox, if you can launch games with a single click and it feels like a console, then it's a console. A lot depends on the overall OS design, that's a fact. We'll see in practice.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Guardian Monkey
Member
I understand that, but this is obviously a branching off point. We already know they are working to bring what they can forward. That's like saying PS4 doesn't play PS3 games natively, so the PS4 isn't a PlayStation.
Perrott
Member
Why would you even want that since these handhelds don't have the power to play good looking games from the past decade at native 1080p/60 with good settings, needless to say 120hz -- which is a pointless refresh rate for any of these devices, since on the 90hz OLED Steam Deck you can already lock your framerate to 40, 45, etc.
bender
What time is it?
Topher
Identifies as young
A PC can play PlayStation games. I guess we can call PCs "PlayStation" as well. Believe what you want, but if Jez Corden gets it then anyone should be able to.
"Yes, Microsoft's Xbox team is leading development on the software experience, but that's where the "Xbox" ends here."
I need people to know the ROG 'Xbox Ally' is Xbox by name and software experience only
Since I'm seeing reams of misinformation online, I'm here to combat it in my small, humble way. You don't need to be into Xbox to enjoy the Xbox Ally.
www.windowscentral.com
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StereoVsn
Gold Member
If that's the case I will wait for a BestBuy sale (or even better, sale and near new return) and install SteamOS/Bazzite.
HRK69
Banned
Funny how every time something new shows up in gaming, there's always someone ready to play bouncer
If Xbox wants to drop a handheld, let it. More choice isn't a threat
phant0m
Member
Rumor has (had?) it he got busted and fired from MS. Or was starting to feel the heat and called it quits.
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StereoVsn
Gold Member
I have so many questions about this picture. Starting with fashion choices and ending with "why are there tanks (or self-propelled artillery) in the pic"Not sure I'd be able to pass it up if true. Better start getting practice doing the daily salute just in case.
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