Uno Venova
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This is why I wish they would work on actually building a quality stable.
Kotaku Rumor: Microsoft 6 months behind in game production for X720 [Pastebin = Ban]
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statham
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you don't count.
I think misguided disappointment in the specs (basically anything that isn't a top spec gaming PC) is fuelling this random speculation. Now that Sony has revealed, MS is the spec whores last hope.
I still think sony's machine sounds nice and Durango won't be so far behind to make a big difference.
Um.....what?
Either a troll post or just one of those post where the person doesn't put much thought into what they are about to type before their fingers touch the keyboard.
PopcornMegaphone
Banned
This has to be a pure troll post. I mean, it's pretty damn perfect other than missing the catch phrase "abandoned the core".
This makes staggering sense considering incompetent Microsoft, they currently have one remaining IP going into the next generation and even then it is on the verge of being ripped apart itself. Their online service is the most inferior and their 'successes' with Kinect and their media push will be all but ineffectual in convincing current owners to reinvest.
As it stands, Microsoft are set to get absolutely smashed in the dawn of the new generation.
As it stands, Microsoft are set to get absolutely smashed in the dawn of the new generation.
List their studios and what they've been working on for the past 3 years.
HigherLevel
Member
Not true. I feel like this has to be brought up every day here.
343 Industries
Lionhead
Turn 10
Twisted Pixel
Black Tusk
Press Play
Good Science
Big Park
MS Victoria
MS Redmond(not announced yet but they were basically discovered by someone in a thread here a while back)
Soho Productions
Lift London
MS Los Angeles
you will see far more first-party games than you're expecting on the Durango
statham
Member
OMG these posts.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Oh look they all come out of the woodwork now.
PopcornMegaphone
Banned
They can't be genuine opinions.
And then they staffed up and next-generation new stuff will happen and they can resurrect previous franchises.
At least for the huge ones they have Forza and Halo. Gears nobody knows yet if that will continue after GoW:J.
And then they staffed up and next-generation new stuff will happen and they can resurrect previous franchises.
Now? I have been chastising Microsoft's ineptness as a publisher since the publishing of Halo 3: ODST.
These opinions are not new.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Also Platform Next, Kudo's studio.
"What they've been working on"
That post was in response to saying MS shifted their 1st parties to casual games.
I believe that screen cap highlights rather dashingly the highly questionable acceptance of Microsoft's fanbase in terms of getting royally fucked over. Halo fans would viciously fight against the advancement of the series, and yet they wonder why Halo is in the dire holds it is now in.
XtremeXpider
Member
People should wish games instead specs upgrade.
PopcornMegaphone
Banned
"What they've been working on"
That post was in response to saying MS shifted their 1st parties to casual games.
Why don't you actually spend some time to research how wrong you are instead of making everyone do the work for you?
I agree with this.
If the difference is negligible, to the point where multiplats don't look or run drastically better on one system, then I don't really care. I just want to see some new games and features.
R3TRO
Member
Well, for once I agree with this guy;I feel dirty.
Angelus Errare
Banned
I think people expect more from MS's machine because of the hilarious notion of some kind of "trend." Many upon many people have this belief that MS has always used hardware a full generation ahead of what's been available in the PC market why they think this? I have absolutely no clue. Many people expected the same thing to happen this generation (despite the fact unlike with the 360 there was no paradigm shift for MS to take advantage of, said shift being USA versus discrete pixel/vertex shaders). They also never took into account the fact PC hardware isn't bound by the TDP and power consumption of 2005/2006, while consoles are largely still bound by such.
Other than that..."teh trendz!", because we all know Coppermine based Celerons were totally the beesknees even when there were P3 based Coppermines and P4s were out, and a Geforce 3 with an extra vertex shader but much less bandwidth was just totally amazing compared to anything else EVER!
I'm still placing my fictitious bets on raytracing chips and 16GB of RAM because reacshun to Sony/throw Sony off by leaking weak specs on purpus
Q
Queen of Hunting
Unconfirmed Member
i frankly cant wait for either console because at the end of the day games should start looking even better than what we have now. the graphics power alone in the ps4 is a big jump compared to ps3.
I love that image and post.... so, so much.
PopcornMegaphone
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We're not sure of Durango specs so it is impossible to be sure. It should be a hell of a lot more powerful than the Wiiu and most likely a little less powerful than the PS4.
I feel that this was a given a long time ago, has something changed?
PopcornMegaphone
Banned
We don't know because Durango's final specs haven't been released. It could end up being more powerful than the PS4, although I think that's unlikely.
In terms of making a console vgleaks information is not that old tbh.
Baconsammy
Banned
I see we're ratcheting up the stupid as the reveal gets closer and closer.
HigherLevel
Member
"What they've been working on"
That post was in response to saying MS shifted their 1st parties to casual games.
343 is obviously making Halo 5
Turn 10 probably working on Forza 5
Lionhead is working an a new RPG with MMO like elements using UE4 according to job posts
Twisted Pixel is working on LocoCycle and something for the Durango
Black Tusk is working on a sci-fi horror FPS for the Durango
Press Play is making an XBLA game I forgot the name of
Big Park is making a new AAA IP
I'm not sure about the other studios. I am about 99% positive based on who they have hired the Victoria and Redmond studios are making core games. The creative director at the Redmond studio was the lead designer on Halo CE, Crimson Skies, and Shadowrun. They also have people from Irrational and Naughty Dog.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
343 Industries- Halo
Lionhead- Fable
Turn 10- Forza
Twisted Pixel- XBL and Kinect
Black Tusk- New studio, so probably new IP to rival Halo franchise. FPS?
Press Play- Indie dev with only 20 employees so I'm guessing XBL titles.
Good Science- Kinect
Big Park - Kinect
MS Victoria - Unknown project
Soho Productions - Kinect
Lift London - Multiple cloud gaming based productions
MS Los Angeles - Next generation core Title
So realistically the teams working on next gen core titles are:
Rare
343
Lionhead
Turn 10
Black Tusk
MS Los Angeles
You do know how why this pales in comparison to Nintendo's and Sony's first party studios working on core titles for next gen?
He's right though.
Angelus Errare
Banned
Going by the VGLeaks info
It laughs at being compared to WiiU
Comes up ever so slightly short when compared to PS4.
Really WiiU shouldn't be mentioned at all, it's really behind both in nearly all aspects.
statham
Member
sure. If you want to believe that go for it.
back on topic: Really excited to see the Respawn game.
Uno Venova
Banned
When is Microsoft going to give these studios some cool names instead of, just MS Los Angeles, and Redmond.
Now anything that is XBLA or Kinect related can't be a "core game"? Ugh.
Also what about the Victoria and London projects made you decide they shouldn't be on the second list? So zero info means that there's no chance they're making a next-gen game? That makes no sense.
Not really, I have made a remarkably reasonable post and a counter argument has yet to been seen.
PopcornMegaphone
Banned
We didn't want to feed the troll.
Psycho_Mantis
Banned
I'm guessing when they unleash a core IP or announce one for the studio, because if I'm seeing it right the only thing those MS studio have in common is that none of them have released a core IP or announced one yet.
Baconsammy
Banned
When my dog takes a steamer in the yard, I don't look for a counter argument. I just shake my head and hope someone else cleans up that turd so no one else has to deal with it.
NemesisPrime
Banned
Oh man... PS3 all over again. There will be sweet, sweet tears.
Ol No Bones
Banned
Microsoft always had trouble with the quantity of first party studios. It seems this has been fixed for next gen. Microsoft is also no doubt going to have the exclusive ryse from crytek and possibly that game from respawn and possibly something from epic. Gears of war isn't going anywhere. MS is in a great position to be an amazing next gen. The ball is in their court. I will own all the consoles anyway.
You said that their "online service is the most inferior." I mean how the fuck do you even expect people to take that seriously? Are you trying to say it's inferior because you have to pay for it? I guess that makes sense in some strange way, but the UI (I don't give a fuck about ads), cross-game chat, more stable infrastructure, friends list stuff. etc. all make it the best service out there compared to other consoles by a long shot.
Also, that's not to say the rest of your post isn't garbage as well; this was just an example of how completely out of touch and ridiculous it is.
Baconsammy
Banned
People looking at all the new studios need to understand that they're not all necessarily created to make content for the Xbox. There's going to be a lot of Win 8 App support. But then again if those apps also run on the Xbox, I guess you could look at them as Xbox devs.
I like how your post mostly goes on assumption as to what they are working on, in order to downplay. Funny. Also Big Park is rumored to be working on a AAA ip for durango.
So you would deny the humongous damage inflicted upon Halo and Gears? The beginning of stagnancy in Forza, the fall of Lionhead and Rare? And where do you stand on their online service, does having a service inferior to both PSN and Steam despite it being paid, fare well for the beginning of the new generation? Naturally I assume, you are also under the impression that Kinect's overwhelming lack of software certainly does not leave it in any form of position to be a selling point in this new generation.
So what positives can we reap from Microsoft given their current standing? What is it that's going to give them the advantageous start to the new generation, from their current position in third place?