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[Stinky]

Pheonix volume 2-5

Loving it. Future (volume 2) is my favourite so far.

The 4th volume was amazing as well, reminded me a lot of Buddha (which is still my favourite Tezuka manga)

 

[Akito]

Top 50 Oricon Best Selling Volumes for the first half of 2013
http://www.manga-news.com/index.php/actus/2013/06/03/Top-Oricon-1ere-moitie-2013-Par-Volumes

01. One Piece #69 2,946,369
02. Naruto #63 1,159,173
03. Hunter x Hunter #31 1,146,129
04. Hunter x Hunter #32 1,141,177
05. Kimi ni Todoke #18 1,100,503
06. Naruto #64 1,024,073
07. Shingeki no Kyojin #09 917,320
08. Saint Young Men #08 884,322
09. Shingeki no Kyojin #10 848,025
10. Blue Exorcist #10 812,623
11. Silver Spoon #06 763,075
12. Kuroko's Basket #20 759,472
13. Assassination Classroom #02 741,283
14. Kuroko's Basket #21 705,599
15. Yotsubato #12 671,154
16. Assassination Classroom #03 655,715
17. Bleach #57 637,516
18. One Piece #68 633,121
19. Sakamaoto Desu ga? #01 604,775
20. Bleach #58 597,301
21. Assassination Classroom #01 584,351
22. Kuroko's Basket #22 583,169
23. Silver Spoon #07 82,335
24. Detective Conan #78 578,729
25. Black Butler #16 555,876
26. Real #12 533,630
27. Magi - The Labyrinth of Magic #16 527,226
28. Assassination Classroom #04 522,851
29. Natsume's Book of Friends #15 493,579
30. Detective Conan #79 92,576
31. Blue Spring Ride #06 489,757
32. Fairy Tail #37 488,132
33. Sangatsu no Lion #08 468,059
34. Fairy Tail #36 457,768
35. Neon Genesis Evangelion #13 456,319
36. Terra Formars #03 453,065
37. Toriko #22 448,423
38. Space Brothers #20 445,781
39. Blue Spring Ride #07 432,851
40. Chihayafuru #19 424,422
41. Toriko #23 421,544
42. Vagabond #35 417,567
43. Inu x Boku SS #08 410,879
44. Gintama #47 408,599
45. Sukitte Ii na yo #10 404,471
46. Chihayafuru #20 402,109
47. Gintama #48 392,482
48. Mix #02 390,176
49. Magi - The Labyrinth of Magic #15 388,649
50. Driffters #03 382,273

Top 10 Oricon Best Selling Series for the first half of 2013
http://www.manga-news.com/index.php/actus/2013/06/03/Top-Oricon-1ere-moitie-2013-Par-Series

01. One Piece 7 944 680
02. Magi - The Labyrinth of Magic 4 787 519
03. Kuroko's Basket 4 712 773
04. Shingeki no Kyojin 4 292 208
05. Hunter x Hunter 3 616 288
06. Naruto 2 860 385
07. Assassination Classroom 2 504 200
08. Silver Spoon 1 926 298
09. Fairy Tail 1 853 510
10. Terra Formars 1 721 651

People need to stop buying HxH, Togashi will never come back at this rate. It seems like the Magi anime has done its job but Kuroko and SnK should have overtaken it by year's end . We have some really promising newcomers in the form of Swagamoto, AC, Mix and Terra Formars.

 

[Dedication Through Light]

People need to stop buying HxH, Togashi will never come back at this rate. It seems like the Magi anime has done its job but Kuroko and SnK should have overtaken it by year's end . We have some really promising newcomers in the form of Swagamoto, AC, Mix and Terra Formars.

I wish it went beyond ten, wanted to see where Haikyuu would have ended up.

Assassinations Classrooms individual volumes already even more than bleach and will pass Kuroko, wonder if it can get to Naruto/HxH tier.

 

[curlyfriski]

Tower of God and Noblesse are better than 80% of manga out there.

I'm caught up on Tower of God, and I'd say it's pretty average. You can see the way the webtoon format affects the art (textureless cg, lots of wasted space) and the story (giving background information constantly, ambitiously huge in scope), but it's got a lot of typical battle shounen in its DNA as well (chosen boy off to save the world, crappy fight scenes).

better? Tower of God started off worst than 80% of the manga on the market.

What didn't you like about it? I'm surprised you weren't a fan of Koon.

Generally speaking, though, the thing that bothers me most about KOREAN WEBTOONZ is the conspicuous waste of space. There's a lot of blank, empty areas in between panels that just go unused for the most part--it's fine if you want to denote, say, the passage of time, but otherwise it just feels like a waste. Being unbound to the confines of the printed page is okay, but many artists just don't take advantage of that.

Well they do take advantage of it, and that causes the problems you're talking about. Constraints are underrated.

 

[BassForever]

Top 50 Oricon Best Selling Volumes for the first half of 2013
http://www.manga-news.com/index.php/actus/2013/06/03/Top-Oricon-1ere-moitie-2013-Par-Volumes



Top 10 Oricon Best Selling Series for the first half of 2013
http://www.manga-news.com/index.php/actus/2013/06/03/Top-Oricon-1ere-moitie-2013-Par-Series



People need to stop buying HxH, Togashi will never come back at this rate. It seems like the Magi anime has done its job but Kuroko and SnK should have overtaken it by year's end . We have some really promising newcomers in the form of Swagamoto, AC, Mix and Terra Formars.

Glad to see OP, Magi, Titan, and HxH doing well.

 

[Eleuin]

Was it ever explained why Togashi went on hiatus this time?
Also I didn't realize he got married to the woman who made Sailor Moon lol

 

[BatDan]

One Piece killing it as usual.
Impressive numbers for Titan and Magi.
AssClass continuing to be a strong rookie.

Naruto isn't even in the top 5? Wow.

Is Terra ForMars worth reading?

Was it ever explained why Togashi went on hiatus this time?
Also I didn't realize he got married to the woman who made Sailor Moon lol

Dragon Quest X. Since it's an MMO, HxH is dead now.

Spoiler

We never got an explanation.

 

[dramatis]

I wonder if Silver Spoon will actually get an anime boost this summer? Most of its sales came from boost after winning Taisho, I wonder there is any more audience for it to capture.

 

[Dedication Through Light]

What didn't you like about it? I'm surprised you weren't a fan of Koon. .

Its just average and what not. Art is not really worth writing home about, though I think im only six chapters in, its just hard to get motivated to read it and stick with it.

 

[BassForever]

Wait how did Terraformers sell so much if only one volume is in the top 50?

 

[LeleSocho]

15. Yotsubato #12 671,154

 

[Dedication Through Light]

Wait how did Terraformers sell so much if only one volume is in the top 50?

The tv commercials for it during JJBA's airings, must have helped the other four or so volumes sell more than 350k or so each and I think alot of those there are monthly series.

 

[survivor]

Pheonix volume 2-5

Loving it. Future (volume 2) is my favourite so far.

The 4th volume was amazing as well, reminded me a lot of Buddha (which is still my favourite Tezuka manga)

So far I like the historical stories more than the sci-fi ones.

 

[dumbyugi]

GDGD Dogs 1-16

There were some funny gags but I can't handle the bishounen. This probably would have been better if it was just about Tezuka and her troubles as a manga artist, but it can't be a shoujo without terrible pretty boys I guess.

 

[survivor]

Top 50 Oricon Best Selling Volumes for the first half of 2013
http://www.manga-news.com/index.php/actus/2013/06/03/Top-Oricon-1ere-moitie-2013-Par-Volumes



Top 10 Oricon Best Selling Series for the first half of 2013
http://www.manga-news.com/index.php/actus/2013/06/03/Top-Oricon-1ere-moitie-2013-Par-Series



People need to stop buying HxH, Togashi will never come back at this rate. It seems like the Magi anime has done its job but Kuroko and SnK should have overtaken it by year's end . We have some really promising newcomers in the form of Swagamoto, AC, Mix and Terra Formars.

dat One Piece sales decline. The fans have spoken, your manga sucks now.

 

[B-Dubs]

dat One Piece sales decline. The fans have spoken, your manga sucks now.

:lol

 

[ColossalLazy]

New Magi is out.

Attack on Magi 183

So many big guys lol. Also Kouen has some useful Djinn.

 

[BassForever]

Magi 183

Interesting that a man who was "obsessed with war" has healing as his main powers. Really interested in Kouen hope he and Alibaba get a chance to talk soon

 

[Wiseblade]

Magi 183

I should have reread the series to reacquaint myself with who everyone is and their motivations, because it took me a while to remember what was going on.

 

[GG-Duo]

dat One Piece sales decline. The fans have spoken, your manga sucks now.

What numbers was it doing before?

 

[survivor]

What numbers was it doing before?

First half 2011: 23,366,030
First half 2012: 13,833,116
First half 2013: 7,944,680

Decline in quality, decline in sales.

 

[B-Dubs]

First half 2011: 23,366,030
First half 2012: 13,833,116
First half 2013: 7,944,680

Decline in quality, decline in sales.

I'd like to note it's still in 1st place in sales.

 

[BatDan]

I'd like to note it's still in 1st place in sales.

Yep, and it's doing much better than everything else.

 

[wonzo]

rip manga

 

[BassForever]

First half 2011: 23,366,030
First half 2012: 13,833,116
First half 2013: 7,944,680

Decline in quality, decline in sales.

Somehow I feel that there is more factoring into this then just "the series is declining in quality"

 

[survivor]

Somehow I feel that there is more factoring into this then just "the series is declining in quality"

If I include 2010 it would explain everything, but then it would go against my message.

 

[Wiseblade]

Somehow I feel that there is more factoring into this then just "the series is declining in quality"

The actual release schedule of volumes has something to do with it, I believe. Last year had 2 OP volumes in the first half. This year only has one.

 

[BassForever]

If I include 2010 it would explain everything, but then it would go against my message.

So it's because way more volumes came out in 2010 then did this year?

The actual release schedule of volumes has something to do with it, I believe. Last year had 2 OP volumes in the first half. This year only has one.

Thanks Wiseblade

 

[Dedication Through Light]

Top 10 Oricon Best Selling Series for the first half of 2013
http://www.manga-news.com/index.php/actus/2013/06/03/Top-Oricon-1ere-moitie-2013-Par-Series

Just realized but at this rate, Naruto wont even be in the top 3 this year :/ (assuming more Attack on Titan releases and Magi keeps up that pace).

Doubt Silver Spoon will get a boost from the anime much...

 

[BatDan]

The actual release schedule of volumes has something to do with it, I believe. Last year had 2 OP volumes in the first half. This year only has one.

This too. Plus, 2011 started the time skip, and those are massive builders of hype.

 

[Dedication Through Light]

The actual release schedule of volumes has something to do with it, I believe. Last year had 2 OP volumes in the first half. This year only has one.

There are two One Piece volumes around this period of November 19,2012 to May 19, 2013 (volumes 68 and 69), volume 68 even had a 4mln copy print run.

 

[survivor]

So it's because way more volumes came out in 2010 then did this year?

One volume difference doesn't result in the huge gap in sales. Basically 2010, 2011 is when the manga exploded in popularity so you had all these new fans buying up the old volumes in droves boosting up the sales. That's why you would end up with things like One Piece vol 1 selling 500k in one year. Obviously now, the hype has died off and the sales are back to normal although they are a bit lower than usual.

 

[BassForever]

One volume difference doesn't result in the huge gap in sales. Basically 2010, 2011 is when the manga exploded in popularity so you had all these new fans buying up the old volumes in droves boosting up the sales. That's why you would end up with things like One Piece vol 1 selling 500k in one year. Obviously now, the hype has died off and the sales are back to normal although they are a bit lower than usual.

So we will see another one of these for OP in 5-10 years when the next generation is old enough to rebuy all the old stuff?

 

[Wiseblade]

One volume difference doesn't result in the huge gap in sales. Basically 2010, 2011 is when the manga exploded in popularity so you had all these new fans buying up the old volumes in droves boosting up the sales. That's why you would end up with things like One Piece vol 1 selling 500k in one year. Obviously now, the hype has died off and the sales are back to normal although they are a bit lower than usual.

Are they really lower though? There's less day one sales for sure, but there's no reason to believe that OP volumes aren'tcreeping along just shy of the weekly charts. 7 million sales in 6 months with only one volume release would suggest as much. The total sales at the end of the year will paint a clearer picture.

 

[BatDan]

So we will see another one of these for OP in 5-10 years when the next generation is old enough to rebuy all the old stuff?

The current generation will show it to their kids, and they will spend all their money on buying the 90+ volumes of it.

 

[Antiwhippy]

Magi

It's good to be back.

Wonder if kouen will show his full power when mogamett attacks. His generals are pretty awesome though.

 

[Wiseblade]

The current generation will show it to their kids, and they will spend all their money on buying the 90+ volumes of it.

Don't you know? Shueisha has a unique copyright on physical print media DRM; if someone other than the original buyer tries to read One Piece, the volume won't open until they pay an activation fee.

 

[BassForever]

Don't you know? Shueisha has a unique copyright on physical print media DRM; if someone other than the original buyer tries to read One Piece, the volume won't open until they pay an activation fee.

Would be awesome if they did the same thing for the anime, only instead you got the 4kids version

 

[Angry Grimace]

The current generation will show it to their kids, and they will spend all their money on buying the 90+ volumes of it.

So that's what was meant in Naruto by "the new generation will surpass the old"

 

[Wiseblade]

Would be a cruel and unusual form of torture if they did the same thing for the anime, only instead you got the 4kids version

Fixed.

 

[Dedication Through Light]

Oh nice, theres Haikyuu!! as the 23 best selling series this year.

 

[survivor]

So we will see another one of these for OP in 5-10 years when the next generation is old enough to rebuy all the old stuff?

10 years from now no one is gonna bother with reading manga.

Are they really lower though? There's less day one sales for sure, but there's no reason to believe that OP volumes aren'tcreeping along just shy of the weekly charts. 7 million sales in 6 months with only one volume release would suggest as much. The total sales at the end of the year will paint a clearer picture.

Take out 3 millions from first half 2012 sales and it's still higher than 2013. Either way, I have a feeling end of year numbers won't come close to 23 millions (2012 sales).

 

[scy]

Would be awesome if they did the same thing for the anime, only instead you got the 4kids version

I believe the Geneva Conventions outlaws torture like that.

 

[GG-Duo]

I'm fascinated by One Piece's decline in quality. On the one hand, the scale is larger and every issue is still interesting and full of lore, but on the other hand its size is also making story arcs too cumbersome. There hasn't been a well-executed emotional moment since Marineford either. I'm still following it, and the mysteries are interesting, but it's not really what I signed up for.

I wonder if fans in Japan feel the same way?

 

[Ignis Fatuus]

To be perfectly honest I've been having such a blast exploring western comics that I don't even miss the manga days of yore.

 

[Qvoth]

We have some really promising newcomers in the form of Swagamoto, AC, Mix and Terra Formars.

mix? i don't think i'm familiar with that
is mix the full name for the title?
what's it about?

 

[hosannainexcelsis]

10 years from now no one is gonna bother with reading manga.

But superhero comics will still be trucking along.

 

[survivor]

mix? i don't think i'm familiar with that
is mix the full name for the title?
what's it about?

Baseball Adachi stuff.

But superhero comics will still be trucking along.

Maybe one day in the future superhero comics fans will realize that a character's death isn't a massive event that is worth hyping and that they should stop paying for fanfiction.

 

[Ignis Fatuus]

Maybe one day in the future superhero comics fans will realize that a character's death isn't a massive event that is worth hyping and that they should stop paying for fanfiction.

I know that feel. I've been in your shoes. But you don't know superhero comics.

 

[bigkrev]

I'm fascinated by One Piece's decline in quality. On the one hand, the scale is larger and every issue is still interesting and full of lore, but on the other hand its size is also making story arcs too cumbersome. There hasn't been a well-executed emotional moment since Marineford either. I'm still following it, and the mysteries are interesting, but it's not really what I signed up for.

I wonder if fans in Japan feel the same way?

It's also impossible to approach if you are new to it now. I'm about 100 chapters in, and I just feel overwhelmed by the length of it that I don't know If I want to continue.

To be perfectly honest I've been having such a blast exploring western comics that I don't even miss the manga days of yore.

This is happening for me as well. Marvel has done a great job with Marvel NOW making stuff much more approachable. A series like X-men which has thousands of issues between all of its runs can be reasonably approached by reading the current ongoings (of which only one is even 10 issues old at this point). Even if you know nothing about the story or characters- I picked up Young Avengers because someone told me it had a respectable gay teenage romance as one of it's driving plot points, and I was shocked at how much I enjoyed it and how by the end of the first 5 issues I knew who all the characters were and understood the plot.