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Metro 2033 |OT| Fear the Future
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i got this from a PC gaming forum from a guy with 25k posts on it so it's probably legit
"This game is a well done console port, not the other way around like they claimed. Lots of things are just weird. No Quick Saves, No Full Body even though at times it seems like it should have it. Video Option choices are limited to Low, Med, High and Very High (can't configure them). No Walk option, must crouch. Forces me to use Wired X360 Gamepad and only prompts me with its buttons during tutorial even though Keyboard works fine."
poor brainstew??
hopefully he's a liar.
"This game is a well done console port, not the other way around like they claimed. Lots of things are just weird. No Quick Saves, No Full Body even though at times it seems like it should have it. Video Option choices are limited to Low, Med, High and Very High (can't configure them). No Walk option, must crouch. Forces me to use Wired X360 Gamepad and only prompts me with its buttons during tutorial even though Keyboard works fine."
poor brainstew??
hopefully he's a liar.ClovingWestbrook
Banned
Chesskid1 said:i got this from a PC gaming forum from a guy with 25k posts on it so it's probably legit
"This game is a well done console port, not the other way around like they claimed. Lots of things are just weird. No Quick Saves, No Full Body even though at times it seems like it should have it. Video Option choices are limited to Low, Med, High and Very High (can't configure them). No Walk option, must crouch. "
poor brainstew??
This was my concern.
Tokubetsu
Member
Chesskid1 said:i got this from a PC gaming forum from a guy with 25k posts on it so it's probably legit
"This game is a well done console port, not the other way around like they claimed. Lots of things are just weird. No Quick Saves, No Full Body even though at times it seems like it should have it. Video Option choices are limited to Low, Med, High and Very High (can't configure them). No Walk option, must crouch. "
poor brainstew??
There is a file in the steam folder that allows you to enable Supersampling among other things. I haven't figured it out completely yet but yes, in game options are disappointing. However, performance IS good.
brain_stew
Member
I've never been one for quick saves and Tokubetsu just confirmed there's plenty of config file tweaks so that's not an issue either.
Agent Ironside
Member
Do not run in Dx11 mode, killed my 5850, 18-30 fps. DX10 at very high currently, will have to tone down even more for some sections where it drops.
Anyways as promised, These screens are at DX10 Very High Settings, running at about 25-40 through these scenes. Just a tease, amazing looking game, thats the gas mask filter btw.
Anyways as promised, These screens are at DX10 Very High Settings, running at about 25-40 through these scenes. Just a tease, amazing looking game, thats the gas mask filter btw.
Poimandres
Member
I don't think quick saving is really an issue with *linear* shooters... as long as auto-saving is handled well, of course.
black_vegeta
Member
Can't believe I've been sleeping on the previews of this game. Shit looks amazing, can't wait to hear impressions.
Kabuki Waq
Member
x3sphere said:
wow wtf? could it be an Nvidia money hat?
brain_stew
Member
Tone down the level of AA if you want to avoid a VRAM bottleneck. Your framebuffer will double in size with 2xmsaa and quadruple with 4xmsaa so it can quite quickly get out of hand at high resolutions. If its enabling the inengine supersampling as well that'll also kill performance and increase the size of your framaebuffer. Fwiw, analytical AA shouldn't have any significant memory cost, so think about using that instead of msaa. I always thought a 1GB framebuffer was way too small for a 5970.
Enough of the FUD, thanks. ATI should have never made a reference design 5970 with anything less than a 2GB framebuffer (2x2GB), it was always going to be a ridiculous bottleneck and I can see this trend rearing its ugly head many more times in the future.
Kabuki Waq said:
Enough of the FUD, thanks. ATI should have never made a reference design 5970 with anything less than a 2GB framebuffer (2x2GB), it was always going to be a ridiculous bottleneck and I can see this trend rearing its ugly head many more times in the future.
CabbageRed
Member
x3sphere said:
It may not have a profile yet, though. Try turning on and off AI in CCC, if you don't get an FPS drop with AI disabled, then turn it back on and try renaming the game's exe (Crysis, Bioshock, Unreal3, etc.) and see if you find a winner.
CabbageRed
Member
brain_stew said:
Speaking of FUD, shouldn't we wait to see what the actual problem is?
brain_stew said:
AA is set to the default setting, "AAA" There's only two options with DX11, that or 4XMSAA. If I toggle over to 4XMSAA the stuttering crops up even at 1680x1050 so whatever "AAA" is, it seems to be less demanding.
Anyone know how to modify the config settings? There's a .player file in C:\Users\username\Documents\4A Games\Metro 2033 but it's not in plaintext. The user.cfg in "steamapps\common\metro 2033" is seemingly just a list of defaults, doesn't change the actual settings.
I'm going to try disabling Catalyst AI now. It could just be a driver issue (I'm running the latest set though..)
EDIT: Same thing happens with Cat AI disabled. Performance is lower in 1680x1050 with it disabled, as well (around 18FPS, as opposed to around 30 FPS with it enabled) so crossfire is indeed working.
brain_stew
Member
CabbageRed said:
Whether that's the issue here or not, 1GB is clearly going to be a huge bottleneck for a 5970. Its been proven to hold back a plain old 5870, nevermind 2 of them.
brain_stew
Member
Chesskid1 said:
At least we can put to bed any claims of Nvidia money hats then, it seems to perform best on ATI's hardware.
~Kinggi~ said:
Maybe they didn't have one on hand??? There's no multi GPU results there at all, probably for the best, you can't compare them results directly to a single GPU anyway.
CabbageRed
Member
Chesskid1 said:
PhysX is broken, or did I miss something? And pretty middling performance all around, but hopefully new drivers and a patch or two will help out. To their credit, THQ did support RFG long after it was released.
I can run it fine with everything maxed under DX10 @ 2560x1600 (around 25-30FPS). So no issue there. The performance is only abysmal under DX11.
Going to settle on playing this at 1920x1080 DX10 very high for now. Gives me very comfortable performance at that mix of settings. Looks great too.
Going to settle on playing this at 1920x1080 DX10 very high for now. Gives me very comfortable performance at that mix of settings. Looks great too.
bloodforge
Member
Does the PC version have Xbox360 controller support?
AgentOtaku
Member
bloodforge said:
Pretty sure it does
brain_stew
Member
Calantus said:
You don't have to use max settings you know. Plenty of people will be enjoying the 360 version and that looks to be running something like low/medium PC settings and yet its still one of, if not, the best looking game on the system.
brain_stew
Member
CabbageRed said:
The game seems to be GPU bottlenecked, thus offloading some of the CPU work onto the GPU is going to negatively affect performance. That setting only looks useful for those with low end CPUs but a high end Nvidia GPU
Stahsky
A passionate embrace, a beautiful memory lingers.
965 BE 3.4
HD 5770
ddr3 4 gigs
Getting 18-22 fps in DX11 and pretty much a solid 40-45 in DX10. At 1680x1050. Will update as I put a few more minutes into it.
Quick edit: Shot up to 55, then dropped to 35. So uh.. I'll just keep playing and see what happens.
HD 5770
ddr3 4 gigs
Getting 18-22 fps in DX11 and pretty much a solid 40-45 in DX10. At 1680x1050. Will update as I put a few more minutes into it.
Quick edit: Shot up to 55, then dropped to 35. So uh.. I'll just keep playing and see what happens.
CabbageRed
Member
brain_stew said:
It's not doing anything special like Batman or Mirror's Edge? That's a pity. Of course, I cannot use them anyway, but it's fun watching what developers cook up.
EvaPlusMinus said:
Very respectable.
I'm betting after a patch or two + new drivers, this game will be purring along.
SirButterstick
Banned
Looks awesome. Too bad I get only audio and a black screen
Agent Ironside
Member
OMG this game, the indoor environments are insaaaane, im running dx10 high settings, getting about 50-60 indoor, I cant believe what im seeing in some cases, straight up prerendered quality goodness. Granted like STALKER, its a hit or miss, more hit in this case than STALKER though. :lol
crimsonheadGCN
Banned
SirButterstick said:Looks awesome. Too bad I get only audio and a black screen
A poster from SA forums had the same problem and did the following:
OgNar said:
http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?noseen=1&threadid=3274203&pagenumber=5#post373921098
MickeyKnox
Member
Welcome to the world of wonderful post effects, they hurt like hell but they sure are pretty._tetsuo_ said:
brain_stew
Member
_tetsuo_ said:
Perhaps its enabling supersampling? Would surely explain the difference in performance. As long as I can get high settings + AAA + object motion blur without too many drops from my 50hz refresh rate I'll be happy.
SirButterstick
Banned
crimsonheadGCN said:
Yeah, I tried that and it didn't work. It also gives me that update driver MSG at the top, but I have the latest installed.
I'll try again tomorrow.