ProtoByte
Weeb Underling
None of this is nearly as fresh or appealing as you're making this out to be.
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nkarafo
Member
Sure, i mean i only know of two other very old games where Trent composed the music for so if i have to go by your rules i guess you are right.
I just don't really agree with your concept of originality.
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FIREKNIGHT2029
Member
I think ND needs to hurry up and show the gameplay for this game. It’s obvious the character design isn’t selling most people on the game.
Personally, I’m a sucker for ND’s games and I think I’ll enjoy this game even if the character is another cliche girl boss masculine looking female. I’m more into their games for the world building they do and the gameplay, I feel they are one of the best in the industry for that but I can’t deny their lean into masculine looking female characters is getting old and stale at this point. It was original when they did it in TLOU2 but now in 2024 every Western game does it and it has become cliche.
I can see where the criticism is coming from with a lot of people in this thread but I feel a lot of people will calm down once we have more than a teaser trailer to talk about. I’m very interested to see how the game actually plays and what the sci-fi universe will look and feel like.
Personally, I’m a sucker for ND’s games and I think I’ll enjoy this game even if the character is another cliche girl boss masculine looking female. I’m more into their games for the world building they do and the gameplay, I feel they are one of the best in the industry for that but I can’t deny their lean into masculine looking female characters is getting old and stale at this point. It was original when they did it in TLOU2 but now in 2024 every Western game does it and it has become cliche.
I can see where the criticism is coming from with a lot of people in this thread but I feel a lot of people will calm down once we have more than a teaser trailer to talk about. I’m very interested to see how the game actually plays and what the sci-fi universe will look and feel like.
Banjo64
cumsessed
Current Naughty Dog are a satirised version of the company that released TLoU in 2013. It’s taking some people a little longer to accept it.
There’s no hidden meaning or quality here that only the enlightened can detect. It’s just a shit hammy trailer.
semiconscious
Member
i'm using edgy in the classic sense, because, yes, it's pure '80's escapism, with those elements fundamentally serving almost as validation points. maybe I've just experienced one too many '80's retro future' adventures at this point?...
James Sawyer Ford
Member
So give an example instead of repeating ad nauseum generic talking points that are nothing more than shallow hot takes
Guilty_AI
Member
The fact you need to distill so many specific elements of it down to who made the music just further shows how unoriginal this looks.
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TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
What would you say it has in common with Blade Runner? I'm not seeing it man.
FunkMiller
Member
That is literally not what the trailer showed. At all. The whole thing screamed Guardians Of The Galaxy... again.
You honestly think that looked in any way dark or dystopian?
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Chuck Berry
Gold Member
Syndicate 2012
The Ascent
Ruiner
Cyberpunk 2077
I know you'll defend it to the death bro cause it's you, but to me, going by that trailer, it's doing nothing new in the originality or aesthetic department. I'm thoroughly unimpressed so far.
Killjoy-NL
Banned
If people are going with this logic, nobody should be excited for Witcher 4, Crimson Desert or Kingdom Come: Deliverance 2.
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semiconscious
Member
seriously. i watched it again, & there wasn't any 'dystopian, dark sci-fi, cyberpunk' in the version i saw whatsoever. there was just a super clean, high-tech badass little ship & an adult with an eye-patch...
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
I meant in terms of dystopian, cyberpunk, bounty hunting sci fi
Killjoy-NL
Banned
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Banjo64
cumsessed
You mean there’s no other game called Intergalactic: The Heretic Prophet currently being made by a company called Naughty Dog in the state of California for release on the PS5 lead by a greasy cuckold called Neil Druckmann? It’s so original, never been done before in that specific way.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Only one of those games is triple A, and none of them match. This game isn’t going to play anything like cyberpunk
No, it didn’t. It’s not some comedy cornball vibes.
Soundtrack, cinematography, eye patch girl AI, overall aesthetic of the ship with retro product placements, hovering over the other protagonists detailing the fact that they’re all criminals
Neil has confirmed this is going to be another emotionally charged narrative, yet suddenly it’s some GoTG clone, these surface level hot takes are just bad
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Guilty_AI
Member
And no other game with such characteristics being announced at TGA 2024 with release window for 2027. Super original.
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FunkMiller
Member
I think it's okay for people to not be excited over Naughty Dog's next game looking very derivative.
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Yoboman
Member
Brother everyone was calling TLOU generic zombie slop and a bad escort mission game after its first teaser. It had very little excitement until the E3 gameplay demo
Senua
Member
It's a Sony game, he will go to the ends of the earth to defend it's honour
Killjoy-NL
Banned
Sure, but the reasoning is retarded in a lot of cases.
EruditeHobo
Member
It's hilarious this is 50 pages in like 20 hours... just checked TLOU2 story trailer thread, a whopping 3 pages.
Many of the anti-ND talking points remain utterly idiotic... but that's fine of course, if that's your opinion. But why is this 50 pages? It's just a teaser. Think about the first TLOU2 trailer. This like that is just an introduction to the vibe, that's it.
Many of the anti-ND talking points remain utterly idiotic... but that's fine of course, if that's your opinion. But why is this 50 pages? It's just a teaser. Think about the first TLOU2 trailer. This like that is just an introduction to the vibe, that's it.
Guilty_AI
Member
Name a game set in space, with 60s/70s sci-fi aesthetic, where you can land in hundreds of planets, with traditional rpg mechanics, ship customization, ship boarding that also has time-loop plotline.
You can't? I guess Starfield must be this super unique and original game then.
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
Im sick of seeing and playing as frumpy, cunty androgynous women. Especially ones that reek of being designed during the Summer of Love 2020.
I think that reasoning is quite un-retarded.
InterMusketeer
Member
Half this thread is people arguing about the validity of certain opinions and whether they should be shared (as much) on this forum.
PeteBull
Member
Hard to consider myself anti ND when i bought many of their games, day1, just not TLOU2 and onwards, so im anti current day ND
Tams
Member
If I were the boss there, I'd demand they go back and redo the character, if only because we won't have paid good money for a scan just to throw it away.
And also no bonuses or promotions for the idiots who did it.
It seems like the character modeller had a crush on the writer. Simps I tell you, simps.
Banjo64
cumsessed
Mister Wolf
Member
The most original sci-fi game to come out these next few years will be Exodus since it addresses Time Dilation.
Forum is much more popular now.
FunkMiller
Member
I love how you can wilfully dismiss so much of the trailer because it doesn't fit your narrative:
- Stylised space imagery derivative of Destiny.
- Hot rod style spaceship derivative of No man's Sky and GotG
- Main female protag derivative of Ripley with derivative traits of other recent female game protagonists.
- Ship interior aesthetic derivative of GotG
- Colourful space jacket derivative of GotG
- Egregious Product placement derivative of GotG (Sony especially!)
- Use of eighties music and aesthetic very derivative of GotG
Killjoy-NL
Banned
Going by the covid pandemic, 90% of the Western world is retarded. So you're not far off.
ProtoByte
Weeb Underling
Sawyer, you were listing off all of these buzz terms as if any of that will sell the game.
Cyberpunk has been demystified, and the retrofuturism is just exhausting. People do not care about any justifications for the aggressive product placement in a time period supposedly thousands of years in the future.
The bounty hunter thing has been done to death, and the main character does not credibly come off as a "dangerous bounty hunter".
Space has recently been way, way overdone, and not well. It's almost impressive how quickly feudal Japan and space opera have worn out their appeal in vidya.
We've heard Trent Reznor and Reznor wannabe soundtracks ad nauseum. I am not starstruck by the idea of Neil Druckmann using his new Hollywood connections to bring in absurdly expensive sound engineers so that we can hear yet more 80s synth wank.
All the words in the dictionary aren't going to change how the game comes off, and it was a very, very poor showing.
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Killjoy-NL
Banned
Maybe play different games then, because I never played a game with such women except for Concord.
And Detroit: Become Human.
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nkarafo
Member
Your requirements are impossible. What you are asking here? A game that's exactly the same? Same story, protagonist, genre, gameplay, setting, etc?
By that logic every game is original.
fallingdove
Member
Fair enough that you feel burnt out on this setting but objectively it is seen less frequently than say modern military shooters, fantasy WRPGs, anime JRPGs, or soulsbournes.
near
Member
What’s there to even defend here? The title has a nice ring to it I guess. The rest of the teaser looked uninspired and generic. The only interesting talking points are the obvious product placements, which I thought was cool. Not even remotely excited to see more of this I won’t lie. Non-binary: The Heretic Prophet is what I’ll be calling this until they show off something to be excited about.
Men_in_Boxes
Snake Oil Salesman
James Sawyer Ford
Member
Starfield has none of the aesthetics or narration quality on display. The gameplay is also nowhere close to the same.
But it’s in outerspace therefore it’s the same!!
This a laughably bad, shallow take.
Windom Earle
Member
In an alternate universe Amy becomes the president of ND and Cuckman gets sacked.
Instead of whatever this is we get a real attempt at a Naughty Dog homage to Blade Runner. Imagine what could have been.
Instead of whatever this is we get a real attempt at a Naughty Dog homage to Blade Runner. Imagine what could have been.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
Just looked it up. 24k likes. 202 dislikes. There were one or two idiots calling it generic zombie slop but literally 99% of the reception was positive.
Intergallactica as we speak. 37k likes 64k dislikes on ND channel. 48k likes 76k dislikes on playstation channel.
semiconscious
Member
you're right. i'm thinking seeing the messy bed / papers stuck to the wall thing within the first few seconds may've somehow sorta hyper-triggered me
...if this's where naughty dog wants to go, best wishes...
FunkMiller
Member
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Lambogenie
Member
I agree. What is the damn point. Same applies for men.
Even Capcom hired a hot woman for DMC5, she was still hot. But they also guilty with Trish who looked worse.
So either it's a talent issue on the dev side or something else.
Guilty_AI
Member
Is this the famous goalpost moving?
