LeBron in Miami was the most efficient LeBron ever
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
NBA Finals 2016 |OT| - The King demands seconds. The Chef delivers.
- Thread starter Gully State
- Start date
- Status
LeBron in Miami was the most efficient LeBron ever
rokkerkory
Member
Thats terrible
Ninja Scooter
Member
RIP Sean Rooks
this is so so so wrong i don't even know where to start
I couldn't tell if he was trolling or hating
reggieandTFE
Member
All you're telling me is that Curry scores less in the playoffs than he does during the regular season. Jordan's scoring average went up in the playoffs and went up even higher in the Finals.
I'm guessing this is bait, but Curry's career postseason PPG is higher than his career PPG in the regular season.
The 18th Letter
Banned
This might come as a shocker but not everyone is Jordan.
the fucked up thing going on with lebron is the fact he knows they cant win and this predicament they find themselves in is entirely of his own doing. he picked he players. he picked the coach. he made the decision to play a poor imitation warriors game. and now that he's gotten back the only challenge they will have all season he realizes just how far off he's put them.
he has no more crutches. no more injury pleas to cop.
his scoring skills have long left him and the skill-based deficiencies (can't shoot. no go-to moves. no go-to spots that arent in the restricted circle) in his game are starting to rear their ugly head now that his athleticism is fading.
he can always leave cleveland but he really cant from an image/legacy/rep perspective.
he's old as fuck in basketball mileage at his age. i bet those olympics and playoff runs add an extra season or 2 to his games played count. that greatly impacts the level of exertion he can put out. especially on defense.
he's staring his own basketball mortality in the face. and looking back at him are the splash bros cackling their asses off.
i don't think he'll win another ring*. it'll take a massive rededication to his game and he's going to have to accept that he can't build a team. even Jordan got told no. even ancient Kobe was still trying to add moves to his game. I don't see Lebron accepting either of those things.
*i say this assuming he isn't chickenshit enough to actually run from the bed he made in Cleveland. but im sure he could superteam it up with his draft class boys or KD then he'll probably win one.
Jag
Member
Dude was so dialed in.
LegendofDragoonLives
Member
Every great player does take losses hard, that's why they're at the level that they are.
LegendofDragoonLives
Member
I'd recommend you watch the regular season this year and then the post season before commenting. It's important so it doesn't sound like you have no clue what you're talking about.
He's been playing with injuries. You can tell that his movement is off since he's always able to get away from his defender before all the PS issues started coming in. He got blocked by Adams twice last series. An actual big blocked him twice at the 3 point line. Do you want to guess in about 1000 3PA how many times he was straight up blocked this year? Once by Green whose an elite defender and is much faster than Adams ever will be. 23.8P 14/15 in regular season, 28.3P in playoffs. Do you think a much better Steph Curry than last year would average 24.8P this year?reggieandTFE said:
Could be growing pains since he's super reliant on his athleticism for some things, but that midrange shot is decent.
He needs to become a lot better from 3 imo. I think it's tough to stay as a top guard in today's game if you don't have at least a solid 3 point shot.
Curry disappeared in this years WCF?? What games were you watching buddy?
All it shows is that GSW is a better team overall with Curry still one extra gear if needed. I like it much better than Curry scoring 40 in every game!
boiled goose
good with gravy
God damn. The Thunder defense was amazing and the Cavs just have no clue. Completely different levels.
Cavs are fucked. you can't fix this within a series.
Crimson_Echidna
Banned
Depends on whether or not he can avoid injuries going forward. Injuries certainly slowed Wade down, but I think these past two seasons and playoff has shown he's done a pretty good job of adapting his play-style.
If you remember him talking about Kwai's defense back in the 2nd round he said something like, "I'm always looking at the help defense, the first guy doesn't matter." So, when the ability to blow by the on ball defender at will goes away he'll still be able to work in the post and stuff. I would look at D Wade for the past like 6 years. He'll still be a lot stronger than other point guards as well. Not the definition of aging gracefully, Durant is a lot better set up for that, but he should be fine. Especially because he works so damn hard, players like him get better and more skilled with every off season.
That's why Harden looked like such a dope this year. Other players are maniacs about getting better and he starts the year out of shape.
I disagree. Someone should tell him to stop shooting those in general. Like that the year after Miami lost to Dallas. Lebron and Wade just refused to take 3 pointers during the season. It's like Russ will make 1 out of 5 and making that 1 carries him to 3 more bricks. He's historically bad at it and he's the point guard. Those shots where he brings the ball up, no passing, and just pulls up are awful.
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
Can we all agree GSW conditioning is like light years beyond the Cavs and most of the league
Holy shit do they move with fucking finesse
If you watch that basketball video that show how OKC and Cave play against GSW set plays, the thing that stood out was OKC could handle chasing them down, the Cave look OK 1st Quarter but by 3rd their gassed from all that switching and chasing
Lue is fucking up his own team by going up-tempo while they're built for slow with occasional bursts
Also ESPN is having a fucking field day since Klay said their better than Showtime Lakers. Good lord Klay gave the talking heads ammo to last them a full week.
Holy shit do they move with fucking finesse
If you watch that basketball video that show how OKC and Cave play against GSW set plays, the thing that stood out was OKC could handle chasing them down, the Cave look OK 1st Quarter but by 3rd their gassed from all that switching and chasing
Lue is fucking up his own team by going up-tempo while they're built for slow with occasional bursts
Also ESPN is having a fucking field day since Klay said their better than Showtime Lakers. Good lord Klay gave the talking heads ammo to last them a full week.
I don't know why, but the Cavs look particularly out of shape. Like, besides Lebron, who on the Cavs has that modern day Ray Allen/Kwai Leonard level of conditioning look? They're all kind of soft. Stupid observation to make, but they are. Of all the things Lebron brought back with him from Miami, Pat Riley's body fat checks wasn't one.
Stabby McSter
Member
that'd be my vote too
although i really want andre to get it again
man, andre is something else huh fam
kaiju
Member
Seriously. They take that shit way too seriously, them and former players. I'm not even sure they get that Klay was half-jokingly saying it as a jab towards his dad who played on the Lakers in the late 80's.
Well that's why I'm saying he has to improve. If you can't shoot as a guard once your athleticism fades your offense starts to tank.
Net_Wrecker
Member
This is the best. It's like a parody of a fan yelling stuff at players. The way Lebron stops dead like "The hell?" lmao
http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/h2h_finder.cgi?request=1&p1=jamesle01&p2=iguodan01
No doubt. LeBron kryptonite if there ever was any.
Really wish people would stop saying this. Lebron used to shit on him. Now he's facing old Lebron and getting great help D. Don't be so trapped in the moment.
That's like getting excited when Kobe starting killing old Jordan.
CassidyIzABeast
Member
The Cavs need Lebron to go ham and a role player to have a career night tomorrow or you can bring the brooms out.
Dominate.Dominate.Dominate.Dominate. /Kendrick voice
Shoot till the magazine is empty.
Dominate.Dominate.Dominate.Dominate. /Kendrick voice
Shoot till the magazine is empty.
kaiju
Member
Not going to skim through all those stats but I understand where you're coming from.
Spurs fans said the same thing about Kawhi Leonard.
It kinda goes with the territory, right? You call yourself Superman, you better own up to it.
Gully State
Member
What? The guy has another's quite a few memorable playoff performances already.
PadWarrior
Member
Shane Battier was an unsung hero on those Heat teams.
Crimson_Echidna
Banned
CherryWoodFuton
Member
Battier was a corpse but still was defensively better than Love
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
GSW = 4 Tracers, 1 Reinhardt, 1 Mercy
Cavs = 1 Reaper, 1 McCree, 4 Roadhogs
Cavs = 1 Reaper, 1 McCree, 4 Roadhogs
That corpse went 6-8 from 3 in game 7. One of four players to score, bask in his glory: http://www.basketball-reference.com/boxscores/201306200MIA.html
Oh my God, what wouldn't Lebron give right now for Chalmers and Battier? Chalmers isn't shook like JR, I'll tell you that much.
CherryWoodFuton
Member
I miss these moments
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqmlbzSuH9k
Chalmers was the poster child for getting yelled at
CassidyIzABeast
Member
JR Smith out here announcing reality shows. Shumpert putting more effort into his hairstyles, Love is best left unmentioned, and Kyrie modeled his game after And1 mixtapes.
Should have stayed in Miami homie.
Should have stayed in Miami homie.
Syphon Filter
Member
nah kyrie is the man, he is going to beast in game 3.
LegendofDragoonLives
Member
Main reason they're in top shape is also because they rotate a ton. Iggy, Barbosa, & Livingston have heavy minutes with Varejao & Festus taking a solid amount. Draymond also had the most minutes in reg season and was 20-something in terms of most minutes logged in. They're always fresh.
He wants to see Curry shooting over triple and double teams that he's drawing instead of making the smart pass and getting that hockey assist which is leading to his team being up 2-0 in the finals. It's not like he shot 7/11 in the 24 mins he played in game 2 or anything. Or that he was clutch as hell to pull away in games 5-7 of the conference finals. No, Curry is choking.
Dreams-Visions
Member
Go Cavs!
Sigh.
Sigh.
WesternHeretic
Member
Then disappear for game 4?
ryutaro's mama
Member
LOL. Same ole D-V. Hoping against hope.
Ninja Scooter
Member
GraveRobberX
Platinum Trophy: Learned to Shit While Upright Again.
I think Kyrie is humiliated by the Warriors going at him so frequently and succeeding. It is affecting his offensive confidence.
The 18th Letter
Banned
- Status