LyleLanley
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They can have all of this year's picks except for #3.
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NBA Finals 2016 |OT| - The King demands seconds. The Chef delivers.
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They can have all of this year's picks except for #3.
he's questionable for tonight. love says he's optimistic about being able to play though.
friskykillface
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3 team trade
Cavs get melo
Knicks get 3rd pick X Cavs or Celtics picks
Celtics get love
You guys should know that Draymond is getting a tech tonight then suspended next game, so warriors need this game more
GraveRobberX
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Yeah NBA asked GSW to go down 3-1 in the WCF to make it more dramatic for that comeback
NBA should be hoping this becomes a sweep and end the Cavs pain
PadWarrior
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Ah thanks!
Assuming Melo is not washed up and can be convinced to play defense that pickup would huge for the Cavs. A midrange post up player in that offense would help a ton against a good western team. They would need another big though or would have to play and live win Mozgov.
JinjoUnchained
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He's a 20-10 guy that, for some reason, the Cavs are trying to use as Sam Perkins. That is, they don't let him post up and toss him the occasional catch and shoot 3, but not regularly enough to get a rhythm.
Shockingly, he's proven ineffective in this miscast role. For God's sake Cleveland, let him post up on Golden State's bigs and get his confidence back.
Also, fun drinking game, take a shot every time the following happens: Warriors run Love through a pick and roll, he futilily attempts to shade his defender instead of staying in front of them, gets blown by, Cavs help defender leaves a Warrior open for 3 to help, and said Warrior drills the 3 on the catch and shoot. At this rate, they might as well play zone with Kyrie and Love on the floor together.
If Lebron loses, people want to be assured of his dominance still, they don't want to speculate his lost skillset all summer. Its also their best chance to win, but I think the media's just demanding their superstar show up in spectacular fashion.
I think the mistake mildly, is suggesting its just a choice for him to show up, when I think its becoming increasingly difficult for Lebron to get there. If it turned on like a faucet, I think Lebron obviously realizes 23ppg Lebron isn't going to get it done, with how his squad's performing in this Finals.
The offensive side of the ball just doesn't come that easily to him right now. I think the turnovers have been really telling he's trying. Its striking to remember Lebron in Miami, talking about how he could win the scoring title every year if that was his goal. That level of confidence, and his fuck you threes just aren't there.
I hope he can pull one out though. A great Lebron performance and one close game, would be more than I can ask frok this series at this point. But Im not counting on it
They'll probably come out with throwing the kitchen sink by playing Mosgov or whoever's big, but they're in way over their heads. It's gonna be a sweep.
Did you miss so many people saying "The Cavs went to 6 games last year and now they're healthy!" Even smart basketball minds like Zach Lowe were picking the Warriors in 7. The "LeBron needs help" narrative wasn't there before Game 1.
MushroomSamba
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Melo would probably be a better fit than Love, but I don't see him jumping ship to go play with LeBron. He passed that up before for money and the spotlight. I think it'd be hard-pressed to convince him to play in friggin' Cleveland over NYC.
Would be interesting if they worked it out though and tried sticking with this small ball lineup with LeBron at the 5 and Melo at the 4.
Gully State
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Melo ain't leaving NYC.
They let him post up on Draymond in game 2 and he got bitchslapped.
It would be so great, though! And Melo can play defense when he wants to. He was great on both ends when Denver got to the WCF.
Gully State
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Amazing. That gunna be what happens to Bron tonight?
I've always held the belief that a fully healthy cavs team wouldn't do better than the team from last year's finals for two reasons:
1. the huge downgrade on defense with kyrie and love healthy. you don't beat golden state by going shot for shot with them, you beat them by playing defense and disrupting their flow.
2. the amount of adversity the cavs had to go through last year put them all on the same page mentally and their intensity, effort, and execution were off the charts for the opening of the series. you can't really replicate that kind of stuff.
This is my theory. Nobody wants a GS sweep blowing out every game(well except me, GS fans and Lebron/Cavs haters of course). NBA wants a 7 game series.
Watch the next few games be Cavs blowouts which is "rigged". GS doesn't blow out a team then get blown out just because of home court....except in money grabbing NBA...
LOl ok I'm done with my crazy thoughts.
For people who love this kind of stuff:
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/3fs4d2/an_extensive_gif_library_of_nba_players/
So that's why the let the last game be a total blowout and kill the hype for the next game. Those geniuses.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
LOL:
SparkleMotion
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Remember when Kevin Love was considered to be an elite player?
There were a lot of smart basketball minds who thought the same thing going into this series. However, there is a difference between "The Warriors are a bad matchup for the Cavs" and "The pieces around LeBron aren't good." The latter narrative didn't start until this series. No one was saying "None of these players are good!" during the season or as the Cavs cruised through the playoffs. I don't remember any clamber for them to make a trade-deadline deal to shore up all their holes, either.
Ninja Scooter
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Tv contracts are already set. Not sure why people keep clinging to this particular conspiracy myth.
Awesome.LOL:
Seriously... Like why is it SO IMPERATIVE that Kevin Love be there when it looks like negligible difference?
people have been shitting on love since he got to cleveland
lol, I've been wearing my dell curry jersey for every warriors game I've watched during the playoffs
CassidyIzABeast
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K Love has been ruled out for tonight
LyleLanley
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Love's out for tonight's game.
I don't think they actually watch games
anybody with a little basketball IQ knew Cleveland couldnt beat GSW or SAS. and now that we saw OKC turnup they wouldn't beat them either.
all of that other shit was people being in flat denial.
but them gate receipts though. its still a fuckload of money to be made if it goes 7. which it wont lol.
CassidyIzABeast
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If Frye goes off K Love might as well clean his locker out tonight regardless of the outcome. His tenure in Cleveland is done.
LyleLanley
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Jonas Jerebko and a 2nd round pick for Love, who says no?
perfectchaos007
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The chef is going to give the country free tacos tonight
CrocMother
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So who are the starting 5 for the Cavs now?
Ninja Scooter
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Pretty sure most if not all of the gate money stays with the home team, so the NBA wouldn't have much vested interest in risking the entire credibility of the sport just for a few extra thousand ticket sales. C'mon people use some common sense. If the league had the ability, or even cared enough to, rig the league to this level all in the name of ratings the Lakers and Knicks would be in the Finals every year. The league is healthy as fuck even if the Warriors (you know the team that features the leagues most popular and well liked player since maybe Jordan) sweep the Cavs in embarrassing fashion.
RIP Cleveland
Yeah, K Love's defense sucks, but the Cavs desperately need his offense. They need any offense they can get. The Warriors look super comfortable and their offense is flowing when they turn it up. Cavs Gameplan to slow the game down with Mozgov won't work against the Small Ball Death Squad. For one, Mozgov doesn't look like 75% of himself from last year. Second, the SBDS is what destroyed him last year.
As such, he won't have enormous amounts of minutes, I think.
This is not the normal course of events.
Usually a super fan will guarantee a win based on extreme feels and feelings. When their prediction does not come true they do not examine the game (which they probably did not watch the entirety of) or read what others are saying about the game and will immediately jump onto the idea that the game was rigged and cite 1 or 2 bad calls in a game of over 80 plays as proof that the league wants a certain team to win it all.
This boy done changed the game and went straight to conspiracy.
Ninja Scooter
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Frye couldn't defend a chair. He won't stay on the court.
Probably Frye. The only other option would be Richard Jefferson but that's too sad to contemplate (even though he's been the second best player on the team).
Isn't he a better defender than Love?
Ninja Scooter
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He's an awful defender, and the Warriors know how to perfectly exploit him. He ends up on a perimeter player, which is why he went from shooting lights out in the ECF to playing like 10 minutes a game. He can't play. He is a net negative on the court. Like 3/4 of the Cavs roster are net negatives.
CassidyIzABeast
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We'll how he does while getting more minutes because the defensive rating with Kevin on the floor is 114 vs 90 for Channing.
LOL:
This makes me wanna puke.
He has barely played.
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