Ninja Scooter
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Who's the best three way player of all time?
NBA Finals 2016 |OT| - The King demands seconds. The Chef delivers.
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Heat would get destroyed
friskykillface
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Slava MENVADENCO is 🐐
Gunslinger
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LyleLanley
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Kendrick Perkins.
If we look at players at their peak, LeBron definitely had a decent jumper and couldn't be stopped inside. Jordan himself has said this.
Also you can't overstate versatility. Being able pull minutes on Derrick Rose and then the teams center is insane. Magic, the best PG of all time couldn't really guard PGs. Certainly none from today's era. Lebron could.
Gully State
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Curry don't need 3 ways to beat you...just one...GOAT
MushroomSamba
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A decent jumper. Stop the presses.
CopperPuppy
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Jag
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Blatt was a good defensive coach.
I decent jumper and being unstoppable going to the rim while being incredibly efficient posting up. That's basically unguardable.
Decent maybe even setting him short, he had a 40% 3pt season despite being heavily guarded.
No one stuffed the stats like the Dream. At least not since I have been watching. He had a fucking quadruple double...
I love after MJ (twice) and Pippen, he's the 3rd 200 steal/100 block season. And the only 200/200
The 18th Letter
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Because when people say "he can guard 1-5" they have this idea in their head that it means something. He's not playing against Hakeem, Ewing, Shaq, Robinson, etc. He wasn't guarding Dirk in 2011, he wasn't guarding Duncan or Parker in 2007 when he got swept either.
JinjoUnchained
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They have to do something to slow the pace bc they can't run with the Warriors. Post ups and offensive boards would be the first choice, along with LeBron going hard to the basket.
Guess it doesn't matter bc Love has been ruled out anyway, but you don't just abandon a tactic because it didn't work in a small sample size. I think Shaq said it best, Love needs to take the L and use it as motivation to win that matchup in the paint.
That's basketball: take the hit, stand your ground, and hit back. The Cavs in general are doing a poor job of that. Every time GSW goes on a run, they look shook and the wheels come off. That's where good coaching and leadership is supposed to come into play.
Shawn Kemp
Did he? I remember Clyde Drexler did on those Rockets teams.
Exactly. I never got this argument. Did LeBron go toe-to-toe with Dwight or something?
Clyde was one assist away from a quadruple double when he was a Rocket. Hakeem has 2 quadruple doubles.
Did some research!
Clyde was just 1 assist/rebound away on two occasions! That's incredible. The assist that was taking away was on a fast-break pass followed by two dribbles and a layup. He was robbed!
I mean nobody can guard all time greats. That's the point of being all time great. It means alot that you can shift a player to guard different positions though . This is only reason why a player like Draymond Green is even a noteworthy name.
Also, he guarded Parker very well in their Finals series for good stretches . He's given great minutes on Drose and Westbrook as well in the playoffs. He's guarded Timmy too or at least provided some incredible help. I remember him swallowing Timmy's shots a couple times. And Splitter. Why exactly are you limiting it to series where he failed??
PadWarrior
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I miss the Dream. One of my all time favorites. I remember that playoff series where he wrecked David Robinson (another favorite of mine) afte he was named mvp.
I really fucking love the NBA. GOAT Sport. It's crazy how vitriolic discussions about players can get - probably the cost of having individuals/stars be the faces of teams and the league. A part of me wants to see a sweep just to see the meltdowns, but then the season will be over sooner 
I would start Mozgov and and Fyre together at least that would provide some spacing. Thompson being a zero on offense has really hurt the team.
Stabby McSter
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I really fucking love the NBA. GOAT Sport. It's crazy how vitriolic discussions about players can get - probably the cost of having individuals/stars be the faces of teams and the league. A part of me wants to see a sweep just to see the meltdowns, but then the season will be over sooner
do you really want to draw out such a painful series?
Bam Bam Baklava
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Given that they got more free throws on the road, I'm sure they'll have a good 30-40 attempts to even things up.
You like to torture, don't cha?
lol wouldn't surprise me. Time for Lebron to take over! and to re-hire Blatt for a 10 day contract to get some defense going lol
haha I don't personally care and in fact I think the Warriors will win. I just don't want this to be more boring that it has been so far :S We won't have any NBA for a while after this man
Hakeem really did not get a ton of airtime and back then it was hard to catch anyone other then the local team. But I was a nerd and watched sportscaster everyday and checked the boxscores and Hakeem could put up some of the most ridiculous boxscores. I really have never seen a successful team that leaned so heavily on a single player (not even Lebron). Hakeem was their team's entire offense and defense. Not in stretches, for the whole fucking game. When he used to get in foul trouble in the playoffs the other team would go on like a 18-0 run over the next 5 minutes.
And no one in the NBA, including Lebron can guard 1-5. Lebron can definitely guard any 2-3 and he can handle most 4s, but if it is a truly elite post player he would be destroyed like any other small player in the post. We don't have more than 3 or 4 of those players in the league (if that) so you can definitely keep him on most bigs today who just spot up for jumper and dunks. And he cannot guard an elite PG who knows how to use screens. Parker undressed him and everyone else on the Heat in game 1 of the Finals. He didn't do much after he got hurt, but no one on the Heat, including Lebron, could stop him.
Chezzymann
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Yeah I'm probably rooting for the cavs tonight, even though I've been rooting for the Warriors ever since my Rockets got bounced. Warriors easily strolling to 3-0 would be so anti climactic and boring for this series. At least let it go to 5...
The 18th Letter
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Warriors might only win by single digit
Syphon Filter
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Cavs are winning tonight. Mark my words.
ryutaro's mama
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Like the Raptors made it a series by winning two ultimately meaningless games?
Bam Bam Baklava
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Because the league doesn't want a 4-0 finals? Sure, I agree.
It sure as hell won't be because the Cavs are a better team.
Syphon Filter
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lol dam you still hate bron i see.
LyleLanley
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Since I'm a degenerate gambler I put some cash on that. I can't see LeBron getting swept.
Syphon Filter
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Cavs in 7.
ryutaro's mama
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It wouldn't be the first time.
PadWarrior
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I want a sweep so I can see Stephen A. Smith rage lol.
Or Lebron is going to say F it and go back to last year plan.
Ninja Scooter
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the Cavs offense playing better just means they will lose 130-105 instead of 107-75. Their defense is straight trash. TRASH. There is no fixing that.
Gully State
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Frye going for 60 tonight. All on 3's
The 18th Letter
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He's going to do that regardless. ESPN pays him millions to be AngryBlackGuy
aka - "My superiors need you to keep watching ABC instead of switching to NBA TV for a real post game"
This is really all I have in my gut for why I think Cavs will win tonight. I could be totally wrong, but we'll see.
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