I would guess both fans will be driven by a single motor sitting between them through the pcb, would make for less noise
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saintjules
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Some deeper talks on the DualSense. Use Google translate
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Darklor01
Might need to stop sniffing glue
Please send your thoughts and prayers to this young man my dudes, His suffering is our suffering.
Trump wasn’t going to provide a Stimulus check for a product made in China for a Japanese company sold in the U.S.
Now if this guy had ordered an XBOX... which is a product sold by an American company assembled in China and sold in the U.S. ...
It still wouldn’t have mattered.
Doncabesa
Member
It's a new feature, you can login to as many devices as you want now but only one of them can access games/subs tied to your account. It's so that xCloud didn't keep signing you out of consoles. You can also game share on PC for play anywhere titles.
TLZ
Banned
Because you're giving him attention.
SportsFan581
Member
You can put the biggest heatsink on a CPU you want and diffuse the exhaust air with 20 fans, the net heat dissipation will still be the same. You may maintain a lower running temperature on the chip, but that's just because you are moving heat more quickly. Heat dissipation is just a necessary evil for all electronic devices.
existensmaximum
Member
Even two high quality 120mm fans would probably do the job just fine.
kyliethicc
Member
I think that metal plate on the left is just shielding over the disk drive.No direct evidence but we have this leak that possibly shows a PS5 metal fan guard and then the 4gamer image shows metal on both sides where there is otherwise plastic. So symmetrical metal on both sides for something.
Amazing how Sony have kept this under wraps and hope when the teardowns come it doesn't turn out to be a bog standard setup....
Also 3500 pages is crazy, give us the teardown soon Cerny-san I'll even play Knack again if you want
Nickolaidas
Member
Can we stop with the xsx overheating fud bullshit?
Please?
Please?
Sinthor
Gold Member
I agree. Unless there's some REAL evidence or reports...from real world production models...this is pointless. Same as insisting the same about PS5 due to the earlier dev kits. Just let it go, folks! We have plenty to speculate about that is REAL and still a mystery without this kind of crap.
Sinthor
Gold Member
Yeah, maybe. But I think you're right. No one really believes it's an issue at this point. I sure don't. I DO expect both consoles to be...warm though. Hell, my receiver gets damn hot after being on all day. It's kind of...electronics and.....physics.
Nickolaidas
Member
Then those same people shouldn't be quick to accuse fans of the other side of the fence spreading misinformation without proof.
Otherwise they're no better than those 4-5 xbox twitter trolls like nugroho, eastwood, dealer and the like.
And Odium.
There, I've said it, Gavin.
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thurnishaleygw
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MastaKiiLA
Member
I'm not worried about heat dissipation, although a cooler case should mean you're either moving a higher volume of air through the case, or your components aren't getting that hot (assuming similarly-tight packaging). My main concern is power usage. I hope these consoles aren't drawing a lot of power while in standby, as I like to keep my machine in that mode, and don't fancy running up a higher-than-necessary electric bill should I take an extended holiday. I look forward to those measurements, once retail units are finally in homes.
Barakov
Gold Member
Snowdonhoffen
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LiquidRex
Member
Okay I'm not exactly a fan... However on a graphical comparison opinion I'm excited for next gen, this looks impressive.... Granted the players still have a freaky look about them but the fluid of their movement helps reduce that somewhat, the reflections on the court, the detail in the fabric on the kits and the basket, the density of the crowd... Nicely done.
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ghairat
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Snowdonhoffen
Member
Okay I'm not exactly a fan... However on a graphical comparison opinion I'm excited for next gen, this looks impressive.... Granted the players still have a freaky look about them but the fluid of their movement helps reduce that somewhat, the reflections on the court, the detail in the fabric on the kits and the basket, the density of the crowd... Nicely done.
Yeah, I'm not really a sports games fan but I gotta admit that look good. I wasn't expecting to be impressed by that game but I am now.
BGs
Industry Professional
"I have embargo and all I can say is something that fucks Sony."
Yes, it has a clear embargo with MS (but it seems that with Sony not).
"...It will refrain from making statements or comments to third parties of a defamatory nature or that may discredit or discredit the company or its employees, administrators or products, both during and after the end of the contract."
DF appears to have signed this clause as well.
I personally recommend that you keep it well ventilated as indicated in the manual. But this, by common sense, is applicable to all electronic devices. That is not to say that XSX has problems, it simply means that its cooling system does its job well by expelling all the heat it generates internally out. In this case, PS5 generates less heat and distributes it more. But the important thing is that neither of them dies. Obviously there will always be people who destroy their consoles by introducing them into poorly ventilated spaces (although XSX would die earlier in the same circumstances), or people who destroy their controls with their nails in two days of use to justify that a product may be defective or of poor quality. , but I think we are all smart enough and have the least common sense to know when they are trolling you and when not.
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silent head
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40CU RDNA2 2.5 GHz boost clock (Navi22) should land around 3070/2080ti
36CU RDNA2 2.23 GHz boost clock (PS5 ) should land around 2060s
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kyliethicc
Member
40CU RDNA2 2.5 GHz boost clock (Navi22) should land around 3070/2080ti
36CU RDNA2 2.23 GHz boost clock (PS5 ) should land around 2060s
Thats whats so cool about these consoles, such high performance value.
The consoles are $500 (or $400 PS5 DE) but have 8 core Zen2 CPUs, Gen4 SSDs, and almost 2080 Ti performance.
It'd cost $1000+ to get similar performance on PC currently.
The value of the consoles is so exciting. Great games too.
CrysisFreak
Banned
PS Plus is already 60, what fucking price increases?
Aceofspades
Banned
Price changes
vivftp
Member
Zuzu
Member
40CU RDNA2 2.5 GHz boost clock (Navi22) should land around 3070/2080ti
36CU RDNA2 2.23 GHz boost clock (PS5 ) should land around 2060s
Hmm, maybe Digital Foundry was right. I guess we'll see.
Lovelygamer
Banned
Sony does not own the PS5 trademark in India. It was previously registered by a resident of the country
nintendosmash.com
Sony does not own the PS5 trademark in India. It was previously registered by a resident of the country
The PS5 trademark in India was registered by Hitesh Aswani of Delhi on October 29, 2019, three months before Sony decided to do the same. Hitesh’s bid is currently Being challenged by the company. According to the latest information, the PlayStation 5 in India will be sold at a price of 55,000...
nintendosmash.com
FranXico
Member
Probably mandatory by law now.
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FunkMiller
Gold Member
What an absolute ass clown. It isn’t good that we’ve seen ZERO next gen games running on XSX. Absolutely fucking stupid to say otherwise, with the console coming out in just over a month!
FranXico
Member
Greatest scalper of all time.Sony does not own the PS5 trademark in India. It was previously registered by a resident of the country
Sony does not own the PS5 trademark in India. It was previously registered by a resident of the country
The PS5 trademark in India was registered by Hitesh Aswani of Delhi on October 29, 2019, three months before Sony decided to do the same. Hitesh’s bid is currently Being challenged by the company. According to the latest information, the PlayStation 5 in India will be sold at a price of 55,000...
CrysisFreak
Banned
LMAO thanks to the cdkeys deal I now have ps+ until 2029.
Hawking Radiation
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Bo_Hazem
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Zheph
Member
I hope for his sake that he actually gets money for this
Bo_Hazem
Banned
Lovelygamer
Banned
Phil Spencer believes that it will take years to see 8K become the standard in video games
nintendosmash.com
Phil Spencer believes that it will take years to see 8K become the standard in video games
Phil Spencer has commented on Xbox’s aspirations for 8K. It will take time to see this resolution as a standard in video games if it is ever seen. New generation consoles, including Xbox Series X and Xbox Series S, boast 4K resolution without any problems, but over the past few months, 8K has...
nintendosmash.com
FranXico
Member
Why don't they just show a Series S build then? Series S is also next gen.
Wraith Phantom
Member
lol its cross gen game the XSX it can look like that. Its when devs move to next gen,upgrade their engines build for SSD's. XSX is going to look spooky. Its when next gen features show up you will start hearing about patches in unknown time frame or simply XSX doesn't have X,Y,Z effects. Xbox execs already tapping out of RT talk. Now it doesn't matter. This shit is hilarious.
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FranXico
Member
Of course. 8K TVs also need to become standard first.Phil Spencer believes that it will take years to see 8K become the standard in video games
Phil Spencer believes that it will take years to see 8K become the standard in video games
Phil Spencer has commented on Xbox’s aspirations for 8K. It will take time to see this resolution as a standard in video games if it is ever seen. New generation consoles, including Xbox Series X and Xbox Series S, boast 4K resolution without any problems, but over the past few months, 8K has...
kyliethicc
Member
Xbox Live is $120 now. I assume Sony will raise its price eventually too.
CrysisFreak
Banned
No it's not what are you talking about?
GamePass costs more than Gold/Plus but that's OK.
Plus and Gold are 60 afaik.
Dodkrake
Banned
Not sure if I'm accurate, but here's something to consider
BGs is a Dev
BGs works with consoles
BGs may have an NDA
kyliethicc
Member
Nope, Xbox just recently eliminated the 1 year buy option for $60.
Now its $10 per month for Xbox Live Gold, so $120/year. Same as Game Pass.
They want to make Game Pass Ultimate look good for $180/year.
Edit - checked, and they do still offer the $25 for 3 month option, so can be had for $100/year.
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Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
danielJackson
Banned
Had to check if they do the same here
Here at Finland they still sell 12 month gold cards on physical stores, but it could be old inventory
Microsoft site sells only
6.99€/month
19.99€/3 months
So it is 83,88€ or ~80€/year
Ps+ is usually 59-69€/year and on sale 35-50€ sometimes.
Gamepass with gold is 12.99€/month = 155€/year
IMO that is fucking expensive in the long run compared to just ps+ and buying games from sale/used. Nobody haves the time to play all games in gamepass/psnow anyway so you pay for something you dont use. Like people whom pay 40€/month for unlimited phone calls+txt+internet and not use it much at all, while pay by minute with unlimited internet would cost the half or less
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