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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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CrysisFreak

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Thread may be on life support, but there's still plenty to speculate about even in the short interim.

We still need to see PS5s revamped UI, as well as what new features are available via Create. There is also PS Now and potential PS+ additions.

Looking at the tech behind Sony's SSD(seeing a DRAM cache) makes me want to see it in true action. Is it really as lightning fast as the claims have been? I'm really fascinated to see the claim the Kena devs made in action.

I think Sony may do one more SoP where they show off this stuff replete with final game launch trailers and maybe a surprise or two.
Nah man the only ones on life support are Biden and Bernie. Thread is as strong as ever. Literally 700 pages of UI speculation ahead of us.
The thread is uncloseable.
 
Not sure, according to WindowsCenteral:

No Bluetooth for Xbox Series X
The Xbox Series X won't have Bluetooth, similarly to the Xbox One, Xbox One S, and Xbox One X. The reason is simple; the Bluetooth signal isn't strong enough to meet Microsoft's specifications for latency. Microsoft uses its proprietary signal, dubbed Xbox Wireless, for connecting controllers and other accessories, like the Turtle Beach Stealth 600 and the SteelSeries 9X wireless headsets.

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More proprietary shit.
Weird, I thought the DS4 had lowest latency of any controller and that’s on Bluetooth.

Edit: I realise it now, DS4 has the lowest input lag. I don’t know the difference between latency and input lag for controllers, though.
 
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Hi, is this true? Like is this actually confirmed?
Maybe Sony had no other choice but roll with such a cache if they wanted to hit their performance target.
Yes it's true. We have known this for months. XBX has a cheap SSD controller without any cache, the PS5019-E19T . Everything has to be done on main ram which is why some loadings are barely improved:

bhsf0nwe8wp51.png
 
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Bo_Hazem

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I'm actually afraid it will get outdated. I can already see midgen refreshes being a thing. Sony only has "PS5 Pro" Xbox can be played on PC and be upgraded. I do want most innovative and most powerful so I guess I have to go all out. I hope to still see you all in other forums after launch. Next up resolution/frame gait thread lol

If XSX has 802GB out of 1,024GB available storage, 222GB occupied, and PS5 has 664GB available out of 825, 161GB occupied. How much would be available from 512GB while using the same system? 512-222= 290GB available! Yes, everybody is avoiding the elephant in the room. Then pay $229 for that external SSD. Buying an XSS sounds like a scam to me.
 
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Deleted member 775630

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Not sure, according to WindowsCenteral:

No Bluetooth for Xbox Series X
The Xbox Series X won't have Bluetooth, similarly to the Xbox One, Xbox One S, and Xbox One X. The reason is simple; the Bluetooth signal isn't strong enough to meet Microsoft's specifications for latency. Microsoft uses its proprietary signal, dubbed Xbox Wireless, for connecting controllers and other accessories, like the Turtle Beach Stealth 600 and the SteelSeries 9X wireless headsets.

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More proprietary shit.
Why do you call it proprietary shit? Xbox Wireless is of better quality which is important for low latency gaming.
 
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Deleted member 775630

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You have difficulties reading, or you skipped it all. Re-read the quotation and continue reading the page. Anyway, have a good day.
I meant why do you call it "shit". Here's a great article on it, on why they do it like this:

 

Bo_Hazem

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I meant why do you call it "shit". Here's a great article on it, on why they do it like this:


Because this is reality:

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volts don't kill, Amps on the other hand are the real killers.

Just to be a smartass, it is ultimately watts that kill. Amps has the same issue as volts, you could survive 100 amps at 1.5 volts easy, you need both numbers to have a determinant measurement. Most healthy people are okay with a quick jolt of 1,500 to 2,000 watts, many survive a lot more than that (lightning strike), but you are more likely to have your heart stop the higher that you go.
 
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Why would I waste my time? Neutral reviewers will show it again. DualSense should have a jump in latency even further with BT 5.1.
Yeah mate, why would you waste your time reading an article about next-gen controllers, where you apparently have an opinion on, without properly knowing the full details. It's because of reasons like this, that this topic is turning to shit. Just go post in the official PS5 topic if that's the only thing you want to discuss. Instead of this constant hating, and shitting on another console. Grow up.
 
I feel like it could do with a major overhaul in terms of flow of actions. The way it's grown so much through the life of the X1 feels like a lot of functionality is convoluted or unnatural to get to. So on that side I can see why a revamp would be a good idea. At the same time, given their strategy, I can see the benefits of maintaining the UI across generations. You just don't get many chances to rework something completely in this way with minimal disruption to the end users.

Thinks back at the 360 blades, no, I think MS is fine completely reinventing the UI wheel mid gen. :messenger_beaming:
 

Bo_Hazem

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Yeah mate, why would you waste your time reading an article about next-gen controllers, where you apparently have an opinion on, without properly knowing the full details. It's because of reasons like this, that this topic is turning to shit. Just go post in the official PS5 topic if that's the only thing you want to discuss. Instead of this constant hating, and shitting on another console. Grow up.

Ok let me show you from that article:

In your controller, stick and trigger movement are examples of analog input. Previous controllers sampled inputs and transmitted the results every 8ms, regardless of when games actually needed the input data. So even if you quickly adjusted the analog stick or trigger in a slightly different way, the game may have received this button state change too late and, for that instant, may use your previous button state.

That's it, that's the only number. Fucking go now and bring me the new number from that article that you've wasted my time with. Nothing about what's gonna be (latency in numbers) in the new one.

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So it's slower in the console, and faster on PC with Bluetooth or wired. The irony. :lollipop_tears_of_joy: (y)
 
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Jose92

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volts don't kill, Amps on the other hand are the real killers.
That is a dangourous statement to say. Our skin is an insulator in a sense, and all insulators will be breakdown if high enough voltage is applied across it. You see imagine voltage as being the the height of a water tank the higher it is the more potential i.e Pressure it has.
5113d1c3ce395fc87d000000.png


When the pressure is high enough it doesnt matter what type of material you put at the end to prevent the flow of the water it will start leaking and after a duration of time it will break down the material.

Same thing in our body if you put across it high voltage i.e high potential it will break down the material i.e our skin/insulator enabling the flow of the electrons i.e current across our body which will cause the electric shock.

tldr: high voltage will breakdown the skin that is why it is dangerous.
 

gmoran

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The way I remember it the Windows CE operating system killed the SEGA Dreamcast and in turn SEGA as a console maker. The ease of piracy where copied games could be booted without any modchip etc...
Apologies if this has been covered as I am multiple pages behind.

And the killer blow - Microsoft, their so called partner - entering the console race. That's how I remembered it at the time and was always surprised Sega fans blamed Sony and shifted their allegiance to Microsoft. The rationale was probably due to the fact that by then Sega were doomed in the home console market but MS's Xbox was a genuine challenger to their enemy (Playstation).

Of course the real reason was that Sega messed up about as bad as you can with the Mega CD, Mega 32X and the Saturn, then dropped that generation ASAP to do it properly with the Dreamcast. They were constantly screwing over their own customers. I loved Virtua Racing on the 32X though, and the Megadrive is still probably my favourite console - got the mini one now, just wish it had Quackshot on it.
 

Zathalus

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Yes it's true. We have known this for months. XBX has a cheap SSD controller without any cache, the PS5019-E19T . Everything has to be done on main ram which is why some loadings are barely improved:

bhsf0nwe8wp51.png
The loading is not as good as it could be because the games are running in a compatibility emulation mode. So things like hardware accelerated decompression, the new DirectStorage API, BCPack, and Sampler Feedback Streaming are not being used at all.

The only thing these games are taking advantage of is the raw speed of the NVMe SSD. The methods they are using to access the data is the exact same way they did on the Xbox One hardware.

A perfect example is the recent test that was done with the RTX 3090 VRAM and Crysis 3. The game was installed on something that offers 936.2 GB/s access speed, but was no different in loading speeds compared to a NVMe. So almost 300 times the throughput for no increase in performance.
 
Well, it seems it was a 3D printed PS5:



Mystery Solved :messenger_tears_of_joy:

EDIT: Although, the last part of the video was quite useful for me as he goes to IKEA and checks where it fits!


This a very good video. Probably top 5 best video on nextgen consoles.



Mark Cerny told these PC fallen fools .The SSD aint the same as that basic bitch in PC. Tim Sweeney told them fools. Best in class. Nobody want to listen. Wait till them co-processors hit.



Matter of fact I think I'll save this to show all of my people today while drinking a Bourbon on my porch - just to laugh and show how intense/insane some of you are over anything. We need laughter in these times. You definitely may need some intimacy.

LMFAO Oppfff don't do em like that. A lot of dudes this is their thing. Introverts internet chat is where they can speak. Cant all be cool guys in the real world. let him/her live.
 
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Deleted member 775630

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Ok let me show you from that article:

In your controller, stick and trigger movement are examples of analog input. Previous controllers sampled inputs and transmitted the results every 8ms, regardless of when games actually needed the input data. So even if you quickly adjusted the analog stick or trigger in a slightly different way, the game may have received this button state change too late and, for that instant, may use your previous button state.

That's it, that's the only number. Fucking go now and bring me the new number from that article that you've wasted my time with. Nothing about what's gonna be (latency in numbers) in the new one.
Yeah that's the number for old controllers, and then they explain how they handle it now, and that it will be faster. So when it comes to the input they say:
"The system now precisely keeps the controller in sync with the game for both analog and digital inputs." So transmitting the results isn't every 8ms anymore, it's instant now. That's already a huge improvement. Obviously wired connection is still better.

To get actual results to compare, well we have to wait. Do we know these figures for the Dual Sense?
 



Dram caches have always worked great for creating false read/write speeds. As soon as your write or read exceeds the size of the cache, or you have a string of sequential requests over that number in total, the drive reverts to being as fast as the nand can read/write to the dram cache and the apparent speed boost disappears. There are some great benefits to a dram cache that do stay static, one is having the file table there, that's the biggest advantage over a dramless design.

Edit: I should note that I don't think that Sony is figuring a dram advantage in, their sustained number is low given the channels in play so I'm sure that is sustained. Figured I needed to edit before getting stoned.
 
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Bo_Hazem

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Yeah that's the number for old controllers, and then they explain how they handle it now, and that it will be faster. So when it comes to the input they say:
"The system now precisely keeps the controller in sync with the game for both analog and digital inputs." So transmitting the results isn't every 8ms anymore, it's instant now. That's already a huge improvement. Obviously wired connection is still better.

To get actual results to compare, well we have to wait. Do we know these figures for the Dual Sense?

So PR shit, now move on and grow up and level up your discussions by backing up your talk before throwing personal attacks on others. Xbox isn't your family member.
 
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Deleted member 775630

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So PR shit, now move on and grow up and level up you discussions by backing up your talk before throwing personal attacks on others. Xbox isn't your family member.
Why is it PR shit? Because they explain in detail on a technical level how they improved it, but didn't give numbers on how much better it is? That's PR shit for you?

Also do we have information on the Dual Sense about this?
 

geordiemp

Member
That is a dangourous statement to say. Our skin is an insulator in a sense, and all insulators will be breakdown if high enough voltage is applied across it. You see imagine voltage as being the the height of a water tank the higher it is the more potential i.e Pressure it has.
5113d1c3ce395fc87d000000.png


When the pressure is high enough it doesnt matter what type of material you put at the end to prevent the flow of the water it will start leaking and after a duration of time it will break down the material.

Same thing in our body if you put across it high voltage i.e high potential it will break down the material i.e our skin/insulator enabling the flow of the electrons i.e current across our body which will cause the electric shock.

tldr: high voltage will breakdown the skin that is why it is dangerous.


I think we need to look at this discussion more technically

 

sircaw

Banned
Since people liked the last one i did, i thought i would make another.

This week on Neogaf news

A slue of Sony pony slaying, who is responsible, to whom will this tale of misconduct lead. Are there Dollar signs at the end of the trail? Has Microsoft managed to get their claws into the Neogaf mod team, all will be revealed?

First breaking news

Microsoft best feature, quick resume shows itself for the three hundredth time, By far the consoles best feature, it even has the latest Doom down to an eye water six-second loading screen. Impressive stuff indeed.

Microsoft sends out hundreds of consoles to shills, trusted youtube viewers that they can count on. Within days hundreds of positive reviews come flooding back, when asked are they going to return the consoles to Microsoft, the independent trustworthy YouTubers respond with "Hell no its a gift"

Microsoft releases over 200 backward compatible games many will excellent improvements. If you like Retro games the new Xbox is for you.

@thrashgaming receives over 7.5 million dollars in bribes to make a positive video about xbox, He takes the money they releases another negative take on them, When asked why he did this his response is, "Nigg@, i am from the hood"

Sonys console breakdown hits record viewing numbers with over 2.5 million views in the first hour. No one understands a fucking word of what was said.

Astroboy and god fall demos show near-instant loading.


A new Terminator film is believed to be in the making with Mark Cerny coming in as the T10.3 series. Rumors of a T12 variant The Phil-me-later is believed to be the villain.

Sony's new heat sink is revealed, global warming has been solved.

Neogaf poll declares that most people think the ps5 is one hell of an ugly console
Any other poll suggests most people in America want to buy a ps5.
People in America apparently like big ugly things.

Led guy goes all John conner in trying to fight the neogaf moderation team(skynet) and fails.

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Bill O'Rights Bill O'Rights denies showing any favoritism towards Microsoft fanboys. Later that night a private video of Bills girlfriend can be seen putting 7 xbox consoles into storage.

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AeneaGames AeneaGames , Neogafs local Garfield's diet is going well, she has lost over half her weight now, she comes in at a slender 300 pounds.

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sircaw sircaw is nearing the 20 000 score threshold, he has not posted a meme or a gif yet. special thanks to Doncabesa Doncabesa for giving me over half those points with trigger emotes. I love you dude :messenger_heart:


Tune in next week, probably not, to see week threes news.

sircaw sircaw is on his very last warning, will people take the above post for what it is, some fun and banter or will the twitch in Bill O'Rights Bill O'Rights eye upon seeing me get the better of him.

Have a great Day everyone.
 
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Bo_Hazem

Banned
Why is it PR shit? Because they explain in detail on a technical level how they improved it, but didn't give numbers on how much better it is? That's PR shit for you?

Also do we have information on the Dual Sense about this?

Yes, it'll support Bluetooth 5.1, much better connection than the previous one. That's it, without further PR. Let the numbers and results do the talking.

Now, can you explain to me why the PC "old" Bluetooth adapter of the XO controller is 15% faster (6.9ms vs 8ms)? You see, the further you continue, the thinner the ground underneath you becomes.

Saying that their exclusive solution is better than Bluetooth is wrong, proven by facts even within their own controller on PC.
 
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Deleted member 775630

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Yes, it'll support Bluetooth 5.1, much better connection than the previous one. That's it, without further PR. Let the numbers and results do the talking.

Now, can you explain to me why the PC "old" Bluetooth adapter of the XO controller is 15% faster (6.9ms vs 8ms)? You see, the further you continue, the thinner the ground underneath you becomes.
But why do you call a detailed explanation PR? I get why Sony didn't do this, because like you said they just use BT5.1. Since the beginning Microsoft chose to be transparent and explain all the changes in detail. I would think people in this specific topic would actually like that...

Why do I need to explain something about the old controller? This is the next-gen topic.
 

Yoboman

Member
Since people liked the last one i did, i thought i would make another.

This week on Neogaf news

A slue of Sony pony slaying, who is responsible, to whom will this tale of misconduct lead. Are there Dollar signs at the end of the trail? Has Microsoft managed to get their claws into the Neogaf mod team, all will be revealed?

First breaking news

Microsoft best feature, quick resume shows itself for the three hundredth time, By far the consoles best feature, it even has the latest Doom down to an eye water six-second loading screen. Impressive stuff indeed.

Microsoft sends out hundreds of consoles to shills, trusted youtube viewers that they can count on. Within days hundreds of positive reviews come flooding back, when asked are they going to return the consoles to Microsoft, the independent trustworthy YouTubers respond with "Hell no its a gift"

Microsoft releases over 200 backward compatible games many will excellent improvements. If you like Retro games the new Xbox is for you.

@thrashgaming receives over 7.5 million dollars in bribers to make a positive video about xbox, He takes the money they releases another negative take on them, When asked why he did this his response is, "N@gger, i am from the hood"

Sonys console breakdown hits record viewing numbers with over 2.5 million views in the first hour. No one understands a fucking word of what was said.

Astroboy and god fall demos show near-instant loading.


A new Terminator film is believed to be in the making with Mark Cerny coming in as the T10.3 series. Rumors of a T12 variant The Phil-me-later is believed to be the villain.

Sony's new heat sink is revealed, global warming has been solved.

Neogaf poll declares that most people think the ps5 is one hell of an ugly console
Any other poll suggests most people in America want to buy a ps5.
People in America apparently like big ugly things.

Led guy goes all John conner in trying to fight the neogaf moderation team(skynet) and fails.

In other breaking news, hundreds of Sony ponies find themselves banned for the most of trivial reasons,

Bill O'Rights Bill O'Rights denies showing any favoritism towards Microsoft fanboys. Later that night a private video of Bills girlfriend can be seen putting 7 xbox consoles into storage.

EviLore EviLore says nothing is going on and no checks have arrived from Microsoft, he is soon seen leaving Neogaf headquarters in a green Ferrari on his way to lunch with the digital foundry members
Mod of War: Remastered Mod of War: Remastered declares i can't be fucked with all this constant waring and is last seen celebrating in the bugsnax has gone Gold thread

Bryank75 Bryank75 is banned for breathing.

kyliethicc kyliethicc calls out man utd fans and laughing at there 6-1 drubbing by spurs, an hour later he logs of neogaf as Liverpoo loses 7-2

Bo_Hazem Bo_Hazem comes back from a one week ban only to be hit with an instant time out from the spec thread

geordiemp geordiemp receives a 3-day ban for linking Craig pictures for the one hundredth time

O Orky says that that things like wifi six usb-c3 are overrated and future-proofing does not matter. He is later seen driving his horse and cart to work

xacto xacto is caught red-handed/pawed by his wife looking at half-naked pictures of Amanda cerny on his computer, He pulls that old line of " but darling I think your so much hotter, he has not been heard of or seen in days.

AeneaGames AeneaGames , Neogafs local Garfield's diet is going well, she has lost over half her weight now, she comes in at a slender 300 pounds.

yewles1 yewles1 the man midget grows three inches in one night after finding his wife's high heels


SportsFan581 SportsFan581 has a new fetish involving shock therapy


The Announcement of the spec thread dying down is met with cheers and cries from both sides( no prizes for guessing which side is happier. ( I would say more but I don't want to get banned)


L Larryfox asks for the Spec thread to be closed for the 500th time in two days. Asked on why he wants a thread shut down he never posts in, it met with the answer Cos its time.

The fire emote on neogaf is being considered offensive.

@X-Fighter contact's Merriam webster dictionary asking that the following words be banned as they are found to be offensive. Hot, warm, lukewarm, mild, tepid, sunny, sweltering, heated, inferno, boiling, roasting, VOLCANO,


Humor award of the month goes to cormack12 who says that humor and banter have no place on Neogaf, anyone that participates in this is running the website into the ground and people that do it should take a self-ban. Later that day he is seen taking a child's happy meal of him at his local MacDonalds

sircaw sircaw is nearing the 20 000 score threshold, he has not posted a meme or a gif yet. special thanks to Doncabesa Doncabesa for giving me over half those points with trigger emotes. I love you dude :messenger_heart:


Tune in next week, probably not, to see week threes news.

sircaw sircaw is on his very last warning, will people take the above post for what it is, some fun and banter or will the twitch in Bill O'Rights Bill O'Rights eye upon seeing me get the better of him.

Have a great Day everyone.
This is possibly the greatest thing ever written

I am going to tear out the pages of my mothers bible and leave a printed copy of this post
 
Yes it's true. We have known this for months. XBX has a cheap SSD controller without any cache, the PS5019-E19T . Everything has to be done on main ram which is why some loadings are barely improved:

bhsf0nwe8wp51.png

Its not going to change.Mark Cerny said you cant just put an SSD in & expect huge impact. XSX SSD is as good as a low end SSD model found in PC. Its just what it is. No code will fix it. The hundreds of devs in the store are just not going to waste time patching games just to appease console warriors. On Speed boots up. Still a welcomed upgrade for xbox guys.Its fast enough all that matters.Don't know why people were comparing it to PS5.< Leave this box alone.

So an Xbox Series SSD card is more expensive than a PS5 compatible 1T SSD from Western Digital. 🤷‍♂️

Proprietary tech strikes again. All that prosumer talk ,now look. They can reverse it but question is will the oems waste money on these custom shape cards for XSX/XS. When they can just release regular SSD builds for PS5/PC at no extra cost.

Its starting to Look Like Mark Cerny GDC talk.Was him knowing all xbox's plays. And we are seeing a bunch of I told you so moments. Shit is crazy.
 
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Zadom

Member
But why do you call a detailed explanation PR? I get why Sony didn't do this, because like you said they just use BT5.1. Since the beginning Microsoft chose to be transparent and explain all the changes in detail. I would think people in this specific topic would actually like that...

Why do I need to explain something about the old controller? This is the next-gen topic.
It is bothersome to me that to Microsoft, the old controller is next gen, the old WiFi is next gen, the old usb is next gen, the old UI is next gen.
 

azertydu91

Hard to Kill
Since people liked the last one i did, i thought i would make another.

This week on Neogaf news

A slue of Sony pony slaying, who is responsible, to whom will this tale of misconduct lead. Are there Dollar signs at the end of the trail? Has Microsoft managed to get their claws into the Neogaf mod team, all will be revealed?

First breaking news

Microsoft best feature, quick resume shows itself for the three hundredth time, By far the consoles best feature, it even has the latest Doom down to an eye water six-second loading screen. Impressive stuff indeed.

Microsoft sends out hundreds of consoles to shills, trusted youtube viewers that they can count on. Within days hundreds of positive reviews come flooding back, when asked are they going to return the consoles to Microsoft, the independent trustworthy YouTubers respond with "Hell no its a gift"

Microsoft releases over 200 backward compatible games many will excellent improvements. If you like Retro games the new Xbox is for you.

@thrashgaming receives over 7.5 million dollars in bribers to make a positive video about xbox, He takes the money they releases another negative take on them, When asked why he did this his response is, "Nigg@, i am from the hood"

Sonys console breakdown hits record viewing numbers with over 2.5 million views in the first hour. No one understands a fucking word of what was said.

Astroboy and god fall demos show near-instant loading.


A new Terminator film is believed to be in the making with Mark Cerny coming in as the T10.3 series. Rumors of a T12 variant The Phil-me-later is believed to be the villain.

Sony's new heat sink is revealed, global warming has been solved.

Neogaf poll declares that most people think the ps5 is one hell of an ugly console
Any other poll suggests most people in America want to buy a ps5.
People in America apparently like big ugly things.

Led guy goes all John conner in trying to fight the neogaf moderation team(skynet) and fails.

In other breaking news, hundreds of Sony ponies find themselves banned for the most of trivial reasons,

Bill O'Rights Bill O'Rights denies showing any favoritism towards Microsoft fanboys. Later that night a private video of Bills girlfriend can be seen putting 7 xbox consoles into storage.

EviLore EviLore says nothing is going on and no checks have arrived from Microsoft, he is soon seen leaving Neogaf headquarters in a green Ferrari on his way to lunch with the digital foundry members
Mod of War: Remastered Mod of War: Remastered declares i can't be fucked with all this constant waring and is last seen celebrating in the bugsnax has gone Gold thread

Bryank75 Bryank75 is banned for breathing.

kyliethicc kyliethicc calls out man utd fans and laughing at there 6-1 drubbing by spurs, an hour later he logs of neogaf as Liverpoo loses 7-2

Bo_Hazem Bo_Hazem comes back from a one week ban only to be hit with an instant time out from the spec thread

geordiemp geordiemp receives a 3-day ban for linking Craig pictures for the one hundredth time

O Orky says that that things like wifi six usb-c3 are overrated and future-proofing does not matter. He is later seen driving his horse and cart to work

xacto xacto is caught red-handed/pawed by his wife looking at half-naked pictures of Amanda cerny on his computer, He pulls that old line of " but darling I think your so much hotter, he has not been heard of or seen in days.

AeneaGames AeneaGames , Neogafs local Garfield's diet is going well, she has lost over half her weight now, she comes in at a slender 300 pounds.

yewles1 yewles1 the man midget grows three inches in one night after finding his wife's high heels


SportsFan581 SportsFan581 has a new fetish involving shock therapy


The Announcement of the spec thread dying down is met with cheers and cries from both sides( no prizes for guessing which side is happier. ( I would say more but I don't want to get banned)


L Larryfox asks for the Spec thread to be closed for the 500th time in two days. Asked on why he wants a thread shut down he never posts in, it met with the answer Cos its time.

The fire emote on neogaf is being considered offensive.

@X-Fighter contact's Merriam webster dictionary asking that the following words be banned as they are found to be offensive. Hot, warm, lukewarm, mild, tepid, sunny, sweltering, heated, inferno, boiling, roasting, VOLCANO,


Humor award of the month goes to cormack12 who says that humor and banter have no place on Neogaf, anyone that participates in this is running the website into the ground and people that do it should take a self-ban. Later that day he is seen taking a child's happy meal of him at his local MacDonalds

sircaw sircaw is nearing the 20 000 score threshold, he has not posted a meme or a gif yet. special thanks to Doncabesa Doncabesa for giving me over half those points with trigger emotes. I love you dude :messenger_heart:


Tune in next week, probably not, to see week threes news.

sircaw sircaw is on his very last warning, will people take the above post for what it is, some fun and banter or will the twitch in Bill O'Rights Bill O'Rights eye upon seeing me get the better of him.

Have a great Day everyone.
That was funny but made me realize one thing .We need a neogaf news/recap video or thread like every week.
Probably more funny than serious but that would probably keep a lot of us up to date with what's happening here.
 

Bo_Hazem

Banned
But why do you call a detailed explanation PR? I get why Sony didn't do this, because like you said they just use BT5.1. Since the beginning Microsoft chose to be transparent and explain all the changes in detail. I would think people in this specific topic would actually like that...

Why do I need to explain something about the old controller? This is the next-gen topic.

Public Relations

Here's how Public Relations Society of America (PRSA) defines PR: “Public relations is a strategic communication process that builds mutually beneficial relationships between organizations and their publics”.


Or

[ U ] abbreviation for public relations : The company's putting out a lot of PR about the new product line. They've decided to hire a PR firm to improve their public image. a PR exercise/campaign.


It's sweet talking if you prefer this one. Anyway, everything has been fully covered in this matter. Have a nice day, mate.
 
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PSX

Member
Since people liked the last one i did, i thought i would make another.

This week on Neogaf news

A slue of Sony pony slaying, who is responsible, to whom will this tale of misconduct lead. Are there Dollar signs at the end of the trail? Has Microsoft managed to get their claws into the Neogaf mod team, all will be revealed?

First breaking news

Microsoft best feature, quick resume shows itself for the three hundredth time, By far the consoles best feature, it even has the latest Doom down to an eye water six-second loading screen. Impressive stuff indeed.

Microsoft sends out hundreds of consoles to shills, trusted youtube viewers that they can count on. Within days hundreds of positive reviews come flooding back, when asked are they going to return the consoles to Microsoft, the independent trustworthy YouTubers respond with "Hell no its a gift"

Microsoft releases over 200 backward compatible games many will excellent improvements. If you like Retro games the new Xbox is for you.

@thrashgaming receives over 7.5 million dollars in bribers to make a positive video about xbox, He takes the money they releases another negative take on them, When asked why he did this his response is, "Nigg@, i am from the hood"

Sonys console breakdown hits record viewing numbers with over 2.5 million views in the first hour. No one understands a fucking word of what was said.

Astroboy and god fall demos show near-instant loading.


A new Terminator film is believed to be in the making with Mark Cerny coming in as the T10.3 series. Rumors of a T12 variant The Phil-me-later is believed to be the villain.

Sony's new heat sink is revealed, global warming has been solved.

Neogaf poll declares that most people think the ps5 is one hell of an ugly console
Any other poll suggests most people in America want to buy a ps5.
People in America apparently like big ugly things.

Led guy goes all John conner in trying to fight the neogaf moderation team(skynet) and fails.

In other breaking news, hundreds of Sony ponies find themselves banned for the most of trivial reasons,

Bill O'Rights Bill O'Rights denies showing any favoritism towards Microsoft fanboys. Later that night a private video of Bills girlfriend can be seen putting 7 xbox consoles into storage.

EviLore EviLore says nothing is going on and no checks have arrived from Microsoft, he is soon seen leaving Neogaf headquarters in a green Ferrari on his way to lunch with the digital foundry members
Mod of War: Remastered Mod of War: Remastered declares i can't be fucked with all this constant waring and is last seen celebrating in the bugsnax has gone Gold thread

Bryank75 Bryank75 is banned for breathing.

kyliethicc kyliethicc calls out man utd fans and laughing at there 6-1 drubbing by spurs, an hour later he logs of neogaf as Liverpoo loses 7-2

Bo_Hazem Bo_Hazem comes back from a one week ban only to be hit with an instant time out from the spec thread

geordiemp geordiemp receives a 3-day ban for linking Craig pictures for the one hundredth time

O Orky says that that things like wifi six usb-c3 are overrated and future-proofing does not matter. He is later seen driving his horse and cart to work

xacto xacto is caught red-handed/pawed by his wife looking at half-naked pictures of Amanda cerny on his computer, He pulls that old line of " but darling I think your so much hotter, he has not been heard of or seen in days.

AeneaGames AeneaGames , Neogafs local Garfield's diet is going well, she has lost over half her weight now, she comes in at a slender 300 pounds.

yewles1 yewles1 the man midget grows three inches in one night after finding his wife's high heels


SportsFan581 SportsFan581 has a new fetish involving shock therapy


The Announcement of the spec thread dying down is met with cheers and cries from both sides( no prizes for guessing which side is happier. ( I would say more but I don't want to get banned)


L Larryfox asks for the Spec thread to be closed for the 500th time in two days. Asked on why he wants a thread shut down he never posts in, it met with the answer Cos its time.

The fire emote on neogaf is being considered offensive.

@X-Fighter contact's Merriam webster dictionary asking that the following words be banned as they are found to be offensive. Hot, warm, lukewarm, mild, tepid, sunny, sweltering, heated, inferno, boiling, roasting, VOLCANO,


Humor award of the month goes to cormack12 who says that humor and banter have no place on Neogaf, anyone that participates in this is running the website into the ground and people that do it should take a self-ban. Later that day he is seen taking a child's happy meal of him at his local MacDonalds

sircaw sircaw is nearing the 20 000 score threshold, he has not posted a meme or a gif yet. special thanks to Doncabesa Doncabesa for giving me over half those points with trigger emotes. I love you dude :messenger_heart:


Tune in next week, probably not, to see week threes news.

sircaw sircaw is on his very last warning, will people take the above post for what it is, some fun and banter or will the twitch in Bill O'Rights Bill O'Rights eye upon seeing me get the better of him.

Have a great Day everyone.

You did it again

"lollipop_disappointed:
 

ArcaneNLSC

Member
Since people liked the last one i did, i thought i would make another.

This week on Neogaf news

A slue of Sony pony slaying, who is responsible, to whom will this tale of misconduct lead. Are there Dollar signs at the end of the trail? Has Microsoft managed to get their claws into the Neogaf mod team, all will be revealed?

First breaking news

Microsoft best feature, quick resume shows itself for the three hundredth time, By far the consoles best feature, it even has the latest Doom down to an eye water six-second loading screen. Impressive stuff indeed.

Microsoft sends out hundreds of consoles to shills, trusted youtube viewers that they can count on. Within days hundreds of positive reviews come flooding back, when asked are they going to return the consoles to Microsoft, the independent trustworthy YouTubers respond with "Hell no its a gift"

Microsoft releases over 200 backward compatible games many will excellent improvements. If you like Retro games the new Xbox is for you.

@thrashgaming receives over 7.5 million dollars in bribers to make a positive video about xbox, He takes the money they releases another negative take on them, When asked why he did this his response is, "Nigg@, i am from the hood"

Sonys console breakdown hits record viewing numbers with over 2.5 million views in the first hour. No one understands a fucking word of what was said.

Astroboy and god fall demos show near-instant loading.


A new Terminator film is believed to be in the making with Mark Cerny coming in as the T10.3 series. Rumors of a T12 variant The Phil-me-later is believed to be the villain.

Sony's new heat sink is revealed, global warming has been solved.

Neogaf poll declares that most people think the ps5 is one hell of an ugly console
Any other poll suggests most people in America want to buy a ps5.
People in America apparently like big ugly things.

Led guy goes all John conner in trying to fight the neogaf moderation team(skynet) and fails.

In other breaking news, hundreds of Sony ponies find themselves banned for the most of trivial reasons,

Bill O'Rights Bill O'Rights denies showing any favoritism towards Microsoft fanboys. Later that night a private video of Bills girlfriend can be seen putting 7 xbox consoles into storage.

EviLore EviLore says nothing is going on and no checks have arrived from Microsoft, he is soon seen leaving Neogaf headquarters in a green Ferrari on his way to lunch with the digital foundry members
Mod of War: Remastered Mod of War: Remastered declares i can't be fucked with all this constant waring and is last seen celebrating in the bugsnax has gone Gold thread

Bryank75 Bryank75 is banned for breathing.

kyliethicc kyliethicc calls out man utd fans and laughing at there 6-1 drubbing by spurs, an hour later he logs of neogaf as Liverpoo loses 7-2

Bo_Hazem Bo_Hazem comes back from a one week ban only to be hit with an instant time out from the spec thread

geordiemp geordiemp receives a 3-day ban for linking Craig pictures for the one hundredth time

O Orky says that that things like wifi six usb-c3 are overrated and future-proofing does not matter. He is later seen driving his horse and cart to work

xacto xacto is caught red-handed/pawed by his wife looking at half-naked pictures of Amanda cerny on his computer, He pulls that old line of " but darling I think your so much hotter, he has not been heard of or seen in days.

AeneaGames AeneaGames , Neogafs local Garfield's diet is going well, she has lost over half her weight now, she comes in at a slender 300 pounds.

yewles1 yewles1 the man midget grows three inches in one night after finding his wife's high heels


SportsFan581 SportsFan581 has a new fetish involving shock therapy


The Announcement of the spec thread dying down is met with cheers and cries from both sides( no prizes for guessing which side is happier. ( I would say more but I don't want to get banned)


L Larryfox asks for the Spec thread to be closed for the 500th time in two days. Asked on why he wants a thread shut down he never posts in, it met with the answer Cos its time.

The fire emote on neogaf is being considered offensive.

@X-Fighter contact's Merriam webster dictionary asking that the following words be banned as they are found to be offensive. Hot, warm, lukewarm, mild, tepid, sunny, sweltering, heated, inferno, boiling, roasting, VOLCANO,


Humor award of the month goes to cormack12 who says that humor and banter have no place on Neogaf, anyone that participates in this is running the website into the ground and people that do it should take a self-ban. Later that day he is seen taking a child's happy meal of him at his local MacDonalds

sircaw sircaw is nearing the 20 000 score threshold, he has not posted a meme or a gif yet. special thanks to Doncabesa Doncabesa for giving me over half those points with trigger emotes. I love you dude :messenger_heart:


Tune in next week, probably not, to see week threes news.

sircaw sircaw is on his very last warning, will people take the above post for what it is, some fun and banter or will the twitch in Bill O'Rights Bill O'Rights eye upon seeing me get the better of him.

Have a great Day everyone.


Only thing missing is me on the verge of getting a Perm reply ban next
 
IIRC fan fest usually runs along Xbox’s major events like E3. Maybe another Xbox event is coming?

If it turns out to be true that Xbox will have another event later, I guess we can assume that Moore’s law is dead is also right about another PlayStation event. Also with the new web Ps Store coming on 19th October, I feel like the pieces are coming together. We should definitely get the UI reveal this month.
 
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