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Next-Gen PS5 & XSX |OT| Console tEch threaD

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kyliethicc

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Well, duh, there's carpet so no need.

Instead of that little ditty, why not tell us what type of video you think they could have made, just to keep the discussion going.
They could of course just done a basic sharing of their thoughts. John himself said he was "very curious" about the PS5 in their video when hands on with Xbox. I'd be shocked if they really have nothing to add, whether insight or just opinion.

Richard did an entire 2nd video saying how the Xbox was a revolution in console design. I'm sure they could form a basic discussion or comparison of the 2 machines builds, now that we've seen both torn apart.
 

FALCON_KICK

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DF is more software-centric channel who test games performances across various consoles and pc configurations. IMO only the tone/attitude displayed by D Dictator93 addressing enthusiastic PS fans question on the other forum came off as condescending.
 
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Loxus

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Can they themselves decide what content they want to create? If there content is shit, then don't follow them, don't give them clicks. Follow someone else you do think creates proper videos about content you care about.
Dude why you keep missing my point.
DF does quick videos all the time.
It not showing up and that quote from Alex, makes it sound like it's never coming.

Where this talk about, "If there content is shit, then don't follow them, don't give them clicks." come from?
 
You are baffled that DF would praise BC and spend that much time on that old of a game and downplay the PS5 video?

Seriously?

I mean I love what these machines are doing with some older titles but that statement by Dicktator doesnt shock me at all.
This is pretty funny. If the situation was reversed and DF was invited to Sony to teardown a PS5 and received a PS5 early to do BC analysis do you honestly think they wouldn't cover it? You guys are such huge Sony fans that if the PS5 isn't getting praise it's taken as a personal insult. DF still did a video on Spiderman man despite their horrible bias! They did 2 videos on Demons Souls it should have been 3!

I was personally more interested in the teardown than Alex but that does not call into question DF's professionalism. He said the teardown wasn't interesting to him. He mostly does PC and graphics analysis anyway so he wouldn't be doing teardown analysis anyway. On top of that DF does not have a PS5 in house. If you want that type of video blame Sony for not sending their console to anyone. I can't wait for the multi-plat game comparisons. HeisenbergFX4 HeisenbergFX4 already stated the XSX is an updated XB1 so PS5 should win every head to head by a country mile. Perhaps that will get people to like DF more.
 

chonga

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It was kinda uninteresting once the specs was out as the xbox series x would have been if the specs had been out.
The specs were known when the video was made. The video was 12 days after the specs one.

Further you don't watch a teardown video for specs. You watch them to see how things are constructed. It being interesting or uninteresting is not measured by if you know specs or not.
 
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Deleted member 775630

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Dude why you keep missing my point.
DF does quick videos all the time.
It not showing up and that quote from Alex, makes it sound like it's never coming.

Where this talk about, "If there content is shit, then don't follow them, don't give them clicks." come from?
Because you said that they shouldn't create a 14 min video but just an article. That's why I said that if you don't like their content... Etc
 

Blue Spring

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This is pretty funny. If the situation was reversed and DF was invited to Sony to teardown a PS5 and received a PS5 early to do BC analysis do you honestly think they wouldn't cover it? You guys are such huge Sony fans that if the PS5 isn't getting praise it's taken as a personal insult.
Why is the defence of known microsoft shills always a hypothetical scenario of the reverse reality and an accusation of hypocrisy against the sony fanbase?
It reeks of projection and justification for unprofessional and irrational behaviour.

Do you see Sonyfans in here defend Tidux or other trash fanboys from twitter? Where is the supposed hypocrisy?
 
No. DF must bow down to the hardware wizards at Sony. If you haven't heard, Sony is a HARDWARE company and has the resources of the infinite IQ level of the legendary Mark Cerny, creator of the timeless classic Knack.

Mark Cerny was the chief architect of the PS4 a console that is praised by developers and sold over 110 million units. Let's not try to discredit him with Knack despite all of his other achievements.
 

Kerlurk

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Might alleviate some questions, but probably create even more questions.

Witness the power of this fully operational PS5. <evil laugh>

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Many Bothans died to bring us this information.

edit: Updated Oct 16, 2020 - changed h.264 to h.265 for video encode/decode.
 
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Mark Cerny was the chief architect of the PS4 a console that is praised by developers and sold over 110 million units. Let's not try to discredit him with Knack despite all of his other achievements.
Mark Cerny is awesome. I'm just making fun of the worship. Marble Madness is one of the greatest games ever made and the PS4 (not Pro) is an amazing piece of hardware. I'm not at all impressed with what I've seen from PS5 so far. It looks over designed as hell.
 

PSX

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Ok, I did spend my time to post you all new info/leaks/rumors for you all about next gen consoles, and also I love posting funny posts/memes/gif along the way. for that I got warning for posting memes etc to make people laugh while waiting on next gen news etc... and also make a meme on Doncabesa because he was spamming empathy on my posts while I was excited for new console for no reason, I never interact with him, never message him or talk to him or know him. If you offend you Doncabesa at anything I am sorry but to be fair trolling with empathy at all time is getting old and getting away with it's unfair to me or to anyone here I am sure guys have same "spamming empathy" you all know of this, now I can't post memes because I got reported by whoever anyways, I think it's time go and take a break, I feel this thread is being unfair to me and my time for treating me that way.

Addicted to meme :messenger_winking:
 
Not really because it didn't make sacrifices to bundle a camera with it. It's much better designed than the X1 was.
They were likely constricted to 36 CUs for BC purposes. That means the clocks had to be pushed higher than an APU with more CUs to achieve similar results. The heating solution wouldn't be as crazy if their BC solution didn't force those design choices much like Kinect forced strange Xbox One design choices. I see a lot of parallels, but obviously we'll have to wait a month or so to know for sure how it all works out.
 
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kyliethicc

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They were likely constricted to 36 CUs for BC purposes. That means the clocks had to be pushed higher than an APU with more CUs to achieve similar results. The heating solution wouldn't be as crazy if their BC solution didn't force those design choices much like Kinect forced strange Xbox One design choices. I see a lot of parallels, but obviously we'll have to wait a month or so to know for sure how it all works out.

It just looks like to me they are going with a standard RDNA2 design with those clocks.
 

kyliethicc

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They were likely constricted to 36 CUs for BC purposes. That means the clocks had to be pushed higher than an APU with more CUs to achieve similar results. The heating solution wouldn't be as crazy if their BC solution didn't force those design choices much like Kinect forced strange Xbox One design choices. I see a lot of parallels, but obviously we'll have to wait a month or so to know for sure how it all works out.
Or maybe just throwing shaders at the problem isn't the best tactic for a console with a limited power and die space budget, especially if you're planning a large portion of the die for custom I/O and audio units. And everyone knows faster clocks help gaming performance. They weren't forced to use higher clocks, or the same CUs as PS4 Pro.

Cerny explained his design goals quite clearly. CU occupancy is real issue. Thats why the 3090 has like 20% more shaders but isn't 20% faster. And why an Ampere TF is weaker than a Turing TF. There's more to it than that.

The PS5 and Xbox One could not be more dissimilar.
 

ToadMan

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Might alleviate some questions, but probably create even more questions. :LOL:

Witness the power of this fully operational PS5. <evil laugh>

efEFuB2.png


Many Bothans died to bring us this information.

Let me know if any corrections needed.

As a Yankees fan I’d prefer not to read the Death Star quotes again today 😭😭😭

However I will remind you that the death star gets destroyed at the end .... twice!

Yeah, I spoilered that 😇
 
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ToadMan

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They were likely constricted to 36 CUs for BC purposes. That means the clocks had to be pushed higher than an APU with more CUs to achieve similar results. The heating solution wouldn't be as crazy if their BC solution didn't force those design choices much like Kinect forced strange Xbox One design choices. I see a lot of parallels, but obviously we'll have to wait a month or so to know for sure how it all works out.

Based on what we know about RDNA 2, PS5 isn’t “pushing clocks higher” it’s using a clock that is right about the RDNA spec.
 

Kerlurk

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As a Yankees fan I’d prefer not to read the Death Star quotes again today 😭😭😭

However I will remind you that the death star gets destroyed at the end .... twice!

Yeah, I spoilered that 😇

Obviously not a millennial or you're a die hard Star Wars fan. Those quotes always stick in my mind, and love using them.

No worries. This PS5 will not get destroyed. :messenger_tongue:
 
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ToadMan

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Ok, I did spend my time to post you all new info/leaks/rumors for you all about next gen consoles, and also I love posting funny posts/memes/gif along the way. for that I got warning for posting memes etc to make people laugh while waiting on next gen news etc... and also make a meme on Doncabesa because he was spamming empathy on my posts while I was excited for new console for no reason, I never interact with him, never message him or talk to him or know him. If you offend you Doncabesa at anything I am sorry but to be fair trolling with empathy at all time is getting old and getting away with it's unfair to me or to anyone here I am sure guys have same "spamming empathy" you all know of this, now I can't post memes because I got reported by whoever anyways, I think it's time go and take a break, I feel this thread is being unfair to me and my time for treating me that way.

Addicted to meme :messenger_winking:

The mods are trying to euthanise this thread - don’t take it personally.

I guess they hope if they hair trigger ban everyone who comes here, it will die and all those people will go post somewhere else on the forum.
 

Great Hair

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Might alleviate some questions, but probably create even more questions. :LOL:

Witness the power of this fully operational PS5. <evil laugh>

efEFuB2.png


Many Bothans died to bring us this information.

Let me know if any corrections needed.

USB2.0 Port, you sure that´s correct? Why would they add an 15 year old port to a 2020 console? Thought they all were USB3.0.
 
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Kerlurk

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I'm actually saying that PS5 RDNA2 can potentiallydo better than 4K/90, by how how much though is yet to be seen, especially 'if' it can support H.266 as well.

Oh I see.

H.266 just came out (finalized July 2020), so it seems impossible that was included.

Supposedly the PS5 console manufacturing started in June 2020.

Maybe the video hardware can be driver updated to support H.266 (???). But I doubt it, from what I read, H.266 is very processor intensive. It probably would require more beefed up hardware.
 
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