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DeadOblivion78
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It could be the fact that the BC games are not using the custom decompressor on the PS5 for load times.
Ass of Can Whooping
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BlueHawk357
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This is great news for those who cannot afford Atmos, as this produces somewhat similar effects to it at a cheaper entry price.
As you see, it says it's free for home theatre, but you will need to pay a one off fee for the headphone service.
Entry to Atmos is £300~, DTS:X is £160.
This is great news for those who cannot afford Atmos, as this produces somewhat similar effects to it at a cheaper entry price.
As you see, it says it's free for home theatre, but you will need to pay a one off fee for the headphone service.
Entry to Atmos is £300~, DTS:X is £160.
onesvenus
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But it's more like tonemapping like themselves said than really using HDR. XSX is also not using HDR although it's fake ouput should be much better than using plain tonemapping.
Exactly.
If we can't say that the XSX I/O solution is faster because load times in BC titles are lower we can't neither say that PS5 BC mode is more performant than XSX one because it has higher framerates on lower resolutions.
Blue Spring
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To get a perfectly locked 60fps it would need to run it at a way higher framerate. About 70 to 80 fps at least to account for the unavoidable dips.
We see the limits of Xbox Series X BC quite clearly but we dont actually have an exact reference point for the PS5 performance.
We see the limits of Xbox Series X BC quite clearly but we dont actually have an exact reference point for the PS5 performance.
Zheph
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just feels really off to have twice the time on the other comparison
MistBreeze
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-good info today so both launch consoles are great hardware wise
-loading times are drastically faster than last gen hardware
- BC games have great performance on ps5 with most 60 fps locked ( great )
-ps5 is so fast on loading launch game with 6 seconds average ( crazy fast )
-on BC games not so much on loading department and both very close on loading times on BC titles but xbox is faster on most BC titles up to 10 seconds some times
- ps5 astro bot and miles morales launch games are great review wise.
is this the summary for today??
so both consoles are great ,,, and the ssd is the biggest upgrade to these consoles??? right??
and the games as always the most differentiator factor after all...
-loading times are drastically faster than last gen hardware
- BC games have great performance on ps5 with most 60 fps locked ( great )
-ps5 is so fast on loading launch game with 6 seconds average ( crazy fast )
-on BC games not so much on loading department and both very close on loading times on BC titles but xbox is faster on most BC titles up to 10 seconds some times
- ps5 astro bot and miles morales launch games are great review wise.
is this the summary for today??
so both consoles are great ,,, and the ssd is the biggest upgrade to these consoles??? right??
and the games as always the most differentiator factor after all...
You are comparing difference things, the 1m04 is from Menu to game to save file. 30seconds is from game to save file.
icerock
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the larger number or part of something:
Seriously though, you're engaging in something which you've accused of others in the past. For instance, Geordie using the Sekiro screen as proof of Series X BC being troublesome. DF have both consoles, and they've tested both for BC and PS5 is (surprisingly) better than SX, this is literally what John wrote prima-facie. The cherry picking being done is utterly pointless. Same applies for loading times too, Series X is just outright faster in most the instances, using few edge cases is disingenuous and only pollutes the discourse which cough cough you were so surprisingly against a week ago.
So, Tom Warren was "unlucky" again with the loading times I guess.
LucidFlux
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Yea it's very likely that neither are using their new decompression blocks to the fullest. You have to remember both PS4 and Xbox One already had Custom Zlib decompression blocks, although not nearly at the same compression ratios nor as powerful as what's present in the next-gen machines. These games weren't recompressed with new techniques nor patched to take advantage of the new blocks so my guess is the CPU is still aiding in that task.
Either way, one thing for certain is that with back compat games neither of them are showing anything close to their full potential.
geordiemp
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So there are a couple of DX11 ubisoft games with bugs on ps5, water is wet and the sky is blue.
Glad I can play Sekiro at a locked 60 FPS now/
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thurnishaleygw
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Not bad at all for a "smaller" game. Can't wait to play it.
xacto
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MistBreeze
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SO depending on load times for BC titles on ps5 ,,, transferring my external hdd from ps4 as it is and plugging it on ps5 and playing my ps4 games I won't loose much??
if this is it ,, it will be great excuse to save precious space on ps5 ssd...
if this is it ,, it will be great excuse to save precious space on ps5 ssd...
thurnishaleygw
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Here load times for some titles appear to be faster than what has been reported on other sites:
Technically, that's how you can use Quick Resume if its anything like XBO.
Does anyone know if QR works when its set to Energy Saving mode? Or do they even still have that setting. I saw Grubb do Full Shutdown. Maybe that's what it's called now?
That was a post I planned to post the other day. Decided to leave it because....hate to say this....but with some of these load time posts....depending on the source, it could be misleading. If it's intentional or not, that's the question.
So much to take in today. This battles are now loading times vs BC performance. Lawd, lmao.
.....and in each case....it depends on some things....
geordiemp
How about that Sekiro BC performance 
. You called it, I had an idea too. I've been saying, we are about to get more insight into how current gen games were made.
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iamvin22
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Crazychipmunx
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Around 5 mins in.
Check out Laymens review of Miles Morales. Playing the ps4 version in backcompat results in significantly longer load times.
pasterpl
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so GeForce 1060 is better than 2080, at the end of the day it will render game at 60fps 1080p while 2080 will not hit stable 60fps at native 4K With extra effects...can you spot the issue with this (your) logic?
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Three Jackdaws
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I'm curious to know whats up with the load times, it seems very anomalous to me as I was expecting PS5 to be ahead in that category, although all the games tested were through backwards compatibility so things are very iffy. That being said it seems like Witcher 3 loads significantly faster on the PS5 compared to the Series X.
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Ass of Can Whooping
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I'll tell you what i told Riky
Take it on the chin the PS5 has better performance. Period.
FrankWza
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If youll notice, there are certain people not even bothering to post and reply to bs.....Have patience....
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Nikana
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Gamespot review talked about. Weren't that impressed. Only one I have seen so far.
MistBreeze
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watch this for ui tour and game switching...
DeadOblivion78
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These inconsistencies with loading times between games is interesting and the same time expected.
It's too late, Xbox fans have claimed the SSD wars like Trump is claiming the presidency.
Ass of Can Whooping
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Xbox guys seem to be more invested in PS5 reviews than they were with the Xbox reviews lol
See my response about the difference in time.
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icerock
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It does according to DF, and the performance isn't stable. Which kinda goes against the main argument for having better and stable framerates, which mind you, is one of key selling points for Xbox. So, it's a surprise for a company with such a robust BC program to not reduce the resolution to hit stable framerates.
Without going into IPC gains, Series X has 2x the GPU power of One X, whereas for PS5 this number is ~2.5x, so there is more headroom to run the PS4 Pro games at more stable framerates. So, if you're using Series X rendering BC games at higher resolution as an argument to win, then you've completely missed the point.
Series X rendering a BC game at lower resolution than PS5, it's doomed I tell ya!!!!!!!!!! Hurr durr!
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martino
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it's because they count from launching the game
It's not upto them though, that's for the dev's to fix sadly.
Grinchy
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Damn, I'm just getting around to watching this and it's quite impressive. This game just was not on my radar but maybe I'll have to grab it too.
Thedtrain
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hardware or software?Don't miss this post guys
edotlee
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"PlayStation has established this identity as the purveyor of huge, expensive blockbuster games, and PS5 is the console manifestation of that"
www.gamesindustry.biz
If Xbox is Netflix, then PS5 is cinema | Console analysis
I was excited to get hands on with PS5 and Xbox Series X, not just because I love games, but because I really wanted to…
www.gamesindustry.biz
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Grinchy
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Damn! I wanted to see mult-game quick resume like the XSX has, but then you watch this and it's like who cares.
Great Hair
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Yakuza was faster on the PS5 aswell, if both tests are conducted without any bias (FF15 they used different chapters ...)
Basically this and both things can co-exist fine."PlayStation has established this identity as the purveyor of huge, expensive blockbuster games, and PS5 is the console manifestation of that"
If Xbox is Netflix, then PS5 is cinema | Console analysis
I was excited to get hands on with PS5 and Xbox Series X, not just because I love games, but because I really wanted to…
Yakuza was faster on the PS5 aswell, if both tests are conducted without any bias (FF15 they used different chapters ...)
sources for this and yakuza?
Great Hair
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Physiognomonics
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The game is running at standard PS4 GPU clocks on PS5 due to BC problems.
Pretty impressive overall, better than I thought but what happened here?
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