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[user1337]

In case anyone wants to watch PS access play through some games:

These are UK times:

 

[Codexer]

 

[bitbydeath]

But that was my point, it still performed the best in 3 of the 4 modes, even with bad tools. What happens when the tools mature?

Does DX13 have a date yet?

 

[TheGejsza]

Damn, I think technically we can call it new IP and those results are amazing but... for many people this is "Assassins Creed from Sony" in Japan. It's just mindblowing how hard ubi fucked it up by not releasing Japan AC. This game was everything that AC fans asked from Ubi for many years - Japan, great gameplay and more-or-less historically accurate. Add the "buglessness" thx to Sony and their quality control and here you have - 5 mil on a single platform.

 

[Stuart360]

I expected even better perf from XSX, tbh.

XSX's 18% advantage would be like 10-15fps on a 'proper' next gen game, and even then you would only see that on a game with an unlocked framerate, like DMC, and that would be if tools were fantastic on both.
Sony fans keep going on about Xbox fanboys believing Dealers tweet (even though i have never seen one of them say the same), but i think some Sony fans believed it.
The diferences, with both going full pelt, would be like the OneX, but slightly less, so the same framerate, more or less the same graphic settings, and one with a higher resolution. Possible the XSX hitting a l;ocked 60fps, and PS5 having the odd drop into the 50's, on a game that really pushes both systems hard.

 

[Hawking Radiation]

Haha.

I fully expect Xbox to divulge sales numbers the moment they are ahead of PS5 in whatever territory.

 

[FranXico]

This alone is a raison enough To upgrade To next gen. #riploadingtimes

That also explains the variations in measured load times. Subsequent boots are faster.

 

[Stuart360]

Does DX13 have a date yet?

Dont know but i doubt its anywhere close lol.

 

[cragarmi]

What most people are neglecting to test is a second boot on PS5. It has a feature to only show splash screens on first boot, should the developer enable it.

If cards and the general quick-loading applied as expected on PS5, think QR is generally going to be more useful on single player games, cards is going to be more useful in multiplayer games and kinda want Microsoft to copy that.

All we need now is a fancy name for gamers to bug Devs to include in future updates. I propose Splash Pass, or Flash Splash?

 

[Crazychipmunx]

It was a bit weird, so full loads was 70% faster, fast travel seemed to be the same from a video that i saw, and save loads was 143% faster.

Perhaps artifical limitation? Or simply still using previous gen loading techniques

 

[B_Boss]

PS5 Adds Wishlists to PS Store

https://www.pushsquare.com/news/2020/11/ps5_adds_wishlists_to_ps_store

Now if only Sony would revert to pre-Update 8.00 party functions (and implement USB Music Player on PS5 lol).....I would be a most pleased soul. So great to see you folks getting your nextgen PS goodness !

 

[vkbest]

Now if only Sony would revert to pre-Update 8.00 party functions (and implement USB Music Player on PS5 lol).....I would be a most pleased soul. So great to see you folks getting your nextgen PS goodness !

PS5: The Ultimate FAQ

Everything you want to know about PlayStation 5, all in one place.

blog.playstation.com

"Can I listen to my own music while playing on PS5?"

"Yes. Spotify will be supported at launch, enabling music playback, including as in-game background music. Players can also listen to music from a USB drive, including MP3, FLAC, and AAC formats. "

 

[jasondefaoite]

Why are these comparisons made with multiplatform launch games?

It's only 1st party studios and possibly 2nd or 3rd wave multiplatform and exclusive games that will start to take advantage of these SSD's.

The differences won't be seen anytime soon until devs get a proper handle on the hardware.

Since there are no 1st party games on one system, and won't be for a year or 2, you'd be waiting a while.

Haha.

I fully expect Xbox to divulge sales numbers the moment they are ahead of PS5 in whatever territory.

So never then.

 

[NEbeast]

But that was my point, it still performed the best in 3 of the 4 modes, even with bad tools. What happens when the tools mature?

The tools seem fine now , there are several RT titles announced, at the time RT was missing from those games, ir going to be added later.

 

[Bo_Hazem]

cragarmi your avatar says that the embargo has been lifted, so spill the beans, you and that floating goatee HeisenbergFX4 .

 

[cragarmi]

cragarmi your avatar says that the embargo has been lifted, so spill the beans, you and that floating goatee HeisenbergFX4 .

See above for Splash Pass*tm (patent pending) It is supported by at least all the Sony launch games, but is currently not functioning correctly, I would expect an update in the coming days to fix this. (Part of switcher) I was told told that Valhalla also supported this, so it's load time on second boot should be significantly faster, once this bug is fixed, there may be more titles that support it, but is currently disabled due to this bug. There's more, but I shouldn't be allowed to have all the fun. HeisenbergFX4 , your up next!

 

[Aceofspades]

XSX's 18% advantage would be like 10-15fps on a 'proper' next gen game,

Basic math says 18% will only yield 10fps on 60fps games and 5fps on 30fps games. In best case scenarios ignoring everything else..

 

[itsnotme]

My Spiderman just came in but I have to wait a week to play it whilst trying my hardest not to watch play throughs... But the game looks so good...

 

[Stuart360]

Basic math says 18% will only yield 10fps on 60fps games and 5fps on 30fps games. In best case scenarios ignoring everything else..

Well of course, hense why i said 'if a game was unlocked. The power difference is nowhere big enough to ever have a situation like 60fps on XSX and 30fps on PS5.
The differences imo will be similar to the OneX and Pro for most games, the same framerate target, and XSX a slightly higher resolution most of the time.

 

[Games Dean]

 

[BigLee74]

my ps5 that i am buying does not cost 500 bucks, what are you talking about.

My ps5 which is a 100 bucks cheaper is still doing the exact thing in that devil man cry video.

its not damage control, its a fact.

Yeah, well I got a copy of DMC from my pal to play it. Is your 100 bucks less machine playing your pals copy?

What's your point caller?

 

[sircaw]

Yeah, well I got a copy of DMC from my pal to play it. Is your 100 bucks less machine playing your pals copy?

What's your point caller?

still got a better controller, better ssd, and the best sound engine.

Time to face facts, i get there hard but the ps5 is a better-engineered machine, cheaper and with better toys to play with.

Have a good day

 

[reksveks]

See above for Splash Pass*tm (patent pending) It is supported by at least all the Sony launch games, but is currently not functioning correctly, I would expect an update in the coming days to fix this. (Part of switcher) I was told told that Valhalla also supported this, so it's load time on second boot should be significantly faster, once this bug is fixed, there may be more titles that support it, but is currently disabled due to this bug. There's more, but I shouldn't be allowed to have all the fun. HeisenbergFX4 , your up next!

To me, the issue isn't going to be the dev's with internal developed engines really, it's the other ones.

still got a better controller, better ssd, and the best sound engine.

any proof of this best sound engine on multiplatform games?

 

[Aceofspades]

Well of course, hense why i said 'if a game was unlocked. The power difference is nowhere big enough to ever have a situation like 60fps on XSX and 30fps on PS5.
The differences imo will be similar to the OneX and Pro for most games, the same framerate target, and XSX a slightly higher resolution most of the time.

Bolded is simply not true and you know that.

 

[Stuart360]

Bolded is simply not true and you know that.

Eh?, well what diferences do you think there will be?. You know i'm talking about over the whole gen right, i'm not on about a paticular game.

 

[MatrixReloaded101]

No even a full day into next gen and they are already hiding numbers

Will Microsoft release dynamic themes for series x?

It already has dynamic themes, you have to go into the settings > personalization . You can also use your own screenshots as a background or images you get from unlocking achievements.

 

[Mr Moose]

But that was my point, it still performed the best in 3 of the 4 modes, even with bad tools. What happens when the tools mature?

This excuse was used at the start of the PS4/Xbox One gen, too. Like the PS5 tools won't mature also, they'll just sit there, stagnating.

 

[Aceofspades]

Eh?, well what diferences do you think there will be?. You know i'm talking about over the whole gen right, i'm not on about a paticular game.

Imperceivable, with a couple of fps average here and there. Or couple of lines of resolution mirroring the small specs difference.

 

[Stuart360]

No even a full day into next gen and they are already hiding numbers

They havent given numbers for years, this isnt something new. Phil did an interview on Bloomberg today saying they wont give out numbers at all in the future, even if they were winning.

 

[PSX]

 

[Stuart360]

Imperceivable, with a couple of fps average here and there. Or couple of lines of resolution mirroring the small specs difference.

Which is exactly what i said. It will be more than a few lines, but wont be as big a differnce as OneX over Pro.

 

[mejin]

Awesome job from Bluepoint.

 

[cragarmi]

To me, the issue isn't going to be the dev's with internal developed engines really, it's the other ones.


any proof of this best sound engine on multiplatform games?

I expect UE 5 to have support for this, for smaller engines your probably right.

I would say sound quality is at least equal for all multiplatform launch games, but it's potential can be heard in Demon Souls, it can not be understated that that game sounds as good as it looks!. Audiophiles will love it.

 

[Birdo]

Nobody:

Every Youtuber: I'm going to take apart this next gen console.

 

[Shmunter]

I’m probably light years behind on reporting findings. Fortnite is native PS5 now, cards are used to select game mode, e.g solos, duos etc, jumping straight to it bypassing the in game navigation. Expected, and super useful.

Game takes advantage of Dualsense. Pressing the trigger is stiff and mechanical feeling unlike the traditional sponge. It’s critical all shooters do this.

Gfx look great, but I can’t tell if it’s simply evolved since I tried it years ago, or if it’s PS5 cranking it.

Now to delete it.

 

[Mr Moose]

Well of course, hense why i said 'if a game was unlocked. The power difference is nowhere big enough to ever have a situation like 60fps on XSX and 30fps on PS5.
The differences imo will be similar to the OneX and Pro for most games, the same framerate target, and XSX a slightly higher resolution most of the time.

You're expecting a 40+% difference? That's the difference in most games between the Pro and One X.

 

[v_iHuGi]

Haha.

I fully expect Xbox to divulge sales numbers the moment they are ahead of PS5 in whatever territory.

New Zealand redeemed.

 

[Stuart360]

This excuse was used at the start of the PS4/Xbox One gen, too. Like the PS5 tools won't mature also, they'll just sit there, stagnating.

Its not me saying that, its been said in here for months on end, ever since DF said they heard that from devs.
Its been used as a crotch against XSX for months in this thread.

 

[Md Ray]

Well of course, hense why i said 'if a game was unlocked. The power difference is nowhere big enough to ever have a situation like 60fps on XSX and 30fps on PS5.
The differences imo will be similar to the OneX and Pro for most games, the same framerate target, and XSX a slightly higher resolution most of the time.

It won't be similar to One X and Pro. The difference in power gap between them is very large. 43% in computational power (TFLOPs) and 50% on the memory bandwidth side.

PS5 and XSX hardware spec difference is nowhere near that big.

 

[Stuart360]

You're expecting a 40+% difference? That's the difference in most games between the Pro and One X.

XSX's 18% advantage would be like 10-15fps on a 'proper' next gen game, and even then you would only see that on a game with an unlocked framerate, like DMC, and that would be if tools were fantastic on both.
Sony fans keep going on about Xbox fanboys believing Dealers tweet (even though i have never seen one of them say the same), but i think some Sony fans believed it.
The diferences, with both going full pelt, would be like the OneX, but slightly less, so the same framerate, more or less the same graphic settings, and one with a higher resolution. Possible the XSX hitting a l;ocked 60fps, and PS5 having the odd drop into the 50's, on a game that really pushes both systems hard.

Which is exactly what i said. It will be more than a few lines, but wont be as big a differnce as OneX over Pro.

I'm saying i expect the situation to be like with the OneX and Pro, over the gen. So the same target framerate but the resoltuon slightly higher on XSX, but not as BIG a diference as the resolution between OneX and Pro.

 

[Mr Moose]

New Zealand redeemed.

Early news suggests PS5 sales have fallen off a cliff in New Zealand.
Memories of NeoGAF PS4 sales meme

 

[reksveks]

I expect UE 5 to have support for this, for smaller engines your probably right.

Yeah, but UE might want either some $ or time in the sun for having their 'advert' at the launch of the game.

 

[Mr Moose]

 

[3liteDragon]

So if we're getting any more "surprise" reveals from Sony, it has to be today right (because of the day one update)?

 

[Stuart360]

Is there a competition in this thread to see who can give out the most smilies?.

 

[sircaw]

Need to go out now sigh, when i come back this afternoon i expect to see a Bloodborne remaster patch announced if not HeisenbergFX4 gets sacrificed.

ITs been too quiet about Bloodborne and i don't care what anyone says its getting a patch.

 

[sircaw]

Is there a competition in this thread to see who can give out the most smilies?.

No

 

[jasondefaoite]

Yeah, well I got a copy of DMC from my pal to play it. Is your 100 bucks less machine playing your pals copy?

What's your point caller?

You know you can share digital purchases too right?

 

[FunkMiller]

I'm saying i expect the situation to be like with the OneX and Pro, over the gen. So the same target framerate but the resoltuon slightly higher on XSX, but not as BIG a diference as the resolution between OneX and Pro.

You‘re probably right - with third party.

I‘m pretty convinced Ps5 first party exclusives will universally be the best looking and best running games of this generation, simply because they won’t have to be created for other, lesser platforms.

 

[THE:MILKMAN]

I'm still going to try to get a PS5 in the next two weeks....I have a cunning plan in place.