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More like this thread, now that the die shot finally appeared. So long, fellas.
Cringe.
So all the fud from ps ponies about infinity cache, custom rdna2/3 and zen 2.... we even heard about zen 3 bits. We are still waiting for the magical SSD to offload stuff from the cpu. And now ps5 seems to be zen1/rdna1. Pretty cool right ?.... what’s even cooler is when direct ML will be unveiled on next MS event.
This topic is dedicated to all those that didn’t fall for Cernys PR FUD and wannabe insiders like RedGaming tech. Now go play all stars for 79,99..... from next month.
PS5 Die Shot has been revealed
Can someone please explain to me what is going on, by using worlds like when talking to a preschooler? None of us understand what we are seeing but we're speculating based on our bias would be a quick way to explain.www.neogaf.com
So all the fud from ps ponies about infinity cache, custom rdna2/3 and zen 2.... we even heard about zen 3 bits. We are still waiting for the magical SSD to offload stuff from the cpu. And now ps5 seems to be zen1/rdna1. Pretty cool right ?.... what’s even cooler is when direct ML will be unveiled on next MS event.
This topic is dedicated to all those that didn’t fall for Cernys PR FUD and wannabe insiders like RedGaming tech. Now go play all stars for 79,99..... from next month.
PS5 Die Shot has been revealed
Can someone please explain to me what is going on, by using worlds like when talking to a preschooler? None of us understand what we are seeing but we're speculating based on our bias would be a quick way to explain.www.neogaf.com
So all the fud from ps ponies about infinity cache, custom rdna2/3 and zen 2.... we even heard about zen 3 bits. We are still waiting for the magical SSD to offload stuff from the cpu. And now ps5 seems to be zen1/rdna1. Pretty cool right ?.... what’s even cooler is when direct ML will be unveiled on next MS event.
This topic is dedicated to all those that didn’t fall for Cernys PR FUD and wannabe insiders like RedGaming tech. Now go play all stars for 79,99..... from next month.
PS5 Die Shot has been revealed
Can someone please explain to me what is going on, by using worlds like when talking to a preschooler? None of us understand what we are seeing but we're speculating based on our bias would be a quick way to explain.www.neogaf.com
So all the fud from ps ponies about infinity cache, custom rdna2/3 and zen 2.... we even heard about zen 3 bits. We are still waiting for the magical SSD to offload stuff from the cpu. And now ps5 seems to be zen1/rdna1. Pretty cool right ?.... what’s even cooler is when direct ML will be unveiled on next MS event.
This topic is dedicated to all those that didn’t fall for Cernys PR FUD and wannabe insiders like RedGaming tech. Now go play all stars for 79,99..... from next month.
PS5 Die Shot has been revealed
Can someone please explain to me what is going on, by using worlds like when talking to a preschooler? None of us understand what we are seeing but we're speculating based on our bias would be a quick way to explain.www.neogaf.com
So all the fud from ps ponies about infinity cache, custom rdna2/3 and zen 2.... we even heard about zen 3 bits. We are still waiting for the magical SSD to offload stuff from the cpu. And now ps5 seems to be zen1/rdna1. Pretty cool right ?.... what’s even cooler is when direct ML will be unveiled on next MS event.
This topic is dedicated to all those that didn’t fall for Cernys PR FUD and wannabe insiders like RedGaming tech. Now go play all stars for 79,99..... from next month.
PS5 Die Shot has been revealed
Can someone please explain to me what is going on, by using worlds like when talking to a preschooler? None of us understand what we are seeing but we're speculating based on our bias would be a quick way to explain.www.neogaf.com
Cerny FUD? lol
So all the fud from ps ponies about infinity cache, custom rdna2/3 and zen 2.... we even heard about zen 3 bits. We are still waiting for the magical SSD to offload stuff from the cpu. And now ps5 seems to be zen1/rdna1. Pretty cool right ?.... what’s even cooler is when direct ML will be unveiled on next MS event.
This topic is dedicated to all those that didn’t fall for Cernys PR FUD and wannabe insiders like RedGaming tech. Now go play all stars for 79,99..... from next month.
PS5 Die Shot has been revealed
Can someone please explain to me what is going on, by using worlds like when talking to a preschooler? None of us understand what we are seeing but we're speculating based on our bias would be a quick way to explain.www.neogaf.com
Seeing Mark Cerny calling AVX-512 instructions a power virus is no wonder why he removed them.
Strange decision considering he decided for Liquid Metal Cooling for PS5.
I am still on my main, don't have an alt and die shots can fuck off and die.All the usuals have posted under their mains now its time for their alts to come out lol.
Yeah like Control,Hitman,Division 2 etc etc etc. #ps5 #rdna1,5 #heaterPS5 runs a bit better, that's all that matters.
Zen 2 doesn't support AVX-512.Seeing Mark Cerny calling AVX-512 instructions a power virus is no wonder why he removed them.
Strange decision considering he decided for Liquid Metal Cooling for PS5.
A Neo member spouting RDNA 1 FUD. Won't be long before you're banned.Yeah like Control,Hitman,Division 2 etc etc etc. #ps5 #rdna1,5 #heater
Yeah like Control,Hitman,Division 2 etc etc etc. #ps5 #rdna1,5 #heater
Nov 17, 2020PS5 I/O complex is located below the GPU
exactly mate. That’s why i am pretty generous with 1,5. Someone could even say RDNA1. Time will tell....What in the die shot shows that it's RDNA1?
I guess if someone puts the shots side by side we might see a difference but they look the same to me. And having more CUs doesn't make it RDNA2 BTW.
In the Zen/Zen+ microarchitecture the floating point physical registers, execution units, and data paths are 128 bits wide. For efficiency AVX-256 instructions which perform the same operation on the 128-bit upper and lower half of a YMM register are decoded into two macro-ops which pass through the FPU individually as execution resources become available and retire together. Accordingly the peak throughput is four SSE/AVX-128 instructions or two AVX-256 instructions per cycle.
Zen 2 doubles the width of the physical registers, execution units, and data paths to 256 bits. The L1 data cache bandwidth was doubled to match. The number of micro-ops issued by the FP scheduler remains four, implying most AVX-256 instructions decode to a single macro-op which conserves queue entries and reduces pressure on RCU and scheduling resources. AMD did not disclose how the FPU was restructured. Die shots suggest two execution blocks splitting the PRF and FP ALUs, one operating on the lower 128 bits of a YMM register, executing x87, MMX, SSE, and AVX instructions, the other on the upper 128 bits for AVX-256 instructions. This improvement doubles the peak throughput of AVX-256 instructions to four per cycle, or in other words, up to 32 FLOPs/cycle in single precision or up to 16 FLOPs/cycle in double precision. Another improvement reduces the latency of double-precision vector multiplications from 4 to 3 cycles, equal to the latency of single-precision multiplications. The latency of fused multiply-add (FMA) instructions remains 5 cycles.
Please, there is a limit to ridiculousness.exactly mate. That’s why i am pretty generous with 1,5. Someone could even say RDNA1. Time will tell....
Also add this into the mix:
This is not how you start out on the forum mate. You're not going to be around here for too long if you continue in this manner.
So all the fud from ps ponies about infinity cache, custom rdna2/3 and zen 2.... we even heard about zen 3 bits. We are still waiting for the magical SSD to offload stuff from the cpu. And now ps5 seems to be zen1/rdna1. Pretty cool right ?.... what’s even cooler is when direct ML will be unveiled on next MS event.
This topic is dedicated to all those that didn’t fall for Cernys PR FUD and wannabe insiders like RedGaming tech. Now go play all stars for 79,99..... from next month.
PS5 Die Shot has been revealed
Can someone please explain to me what is going on, by using worlds like when talking to a preschooler? None of us understand what we are seeing but we're speculating based on our bias would be a quick way to explain.www.neogaf.com
so who's alt do we think this one is?Seeing Mark Cerny calling AVX-512 instructions a power virus is no wonder why he removed them.
Strange decision considering he decided for Liquid Metal Cooling for PS5.
In fairness, box lover wasn’t that stupid...at least from what I remember.so who's alt do we think this one is?
box lover you back?
Trying to figure out who's main you used to be..
So all the fud from ps ponies about infinity cache, custom rdna2/3 and zen 2.... we even heard about zen 3 bits. We are still waiting for the magical SSD to offload stuff from the cpu. And now ps5 seems to be zen1/rdna1. Pretty cool right ?.... what’s even cooler is when direct ML will be unveiled on next MS event.
This topic is dedicated to all those that didn’t fall for Cernys PR FUD and wannabe insiders like RedGaming tech. Now go play all stars for 79,99..... from next month.
PS5 Die Shot has been revealed
Can someone please explain to me what is going on, by using worlds like when talking to a preschooler? None of us understand what we are seeing but we're speculating based on our bias would be a quick way to explain.www.neogaf.com
got an upgrade on the SSD-I/O part last minute to save face
I've heard rumors that Sony had originally planned on just shipping empty boxes for $500, but then last minute they decided to add in some components.I don't think that's correct. From what Sony and Epic said this I/O design was always designed this way.
I've heard rumors of a last minute CPU/GPU upgrade but that doesn't make any sense either.
I've heard rumors that Sony had originally planned on just shipping empty boxes for $500, but then last minute they decided to add in some components.
But that doesn't make any sense either.
They are probably old GAFers that asked permanent ban.Two Neo members on this page spreading misinformation
Where are the mods?
Xbox package is fucking godlike! well at least something isTrying to figure out who's main you used to be..
Did you like the Xbox packaging by chance?
I think someone beat me to it, DAMMIT Kylie.
What in the die shot shows that it's RDNA1?
I guess if someone puts the shots side by side we might see a difference but they look the same to me. And having more CUs doesn't make it RDNA2 BTW.
I've heard rumors that Sony had originally planned on just shipping empty boxes for $500, but then last minute they decided to add in some components.
But that doesn't make any sense either.
Guys we forgot greatwhiteshark ... he was funny , I think we should all count in how much time the shots loads by the way.Trying to figure out who's main you used to be..
Did you like the Xbox packaging by chance?
I think someone beat me to it, DAMMIT Kylie.
you make sense for once?I wouldn't listen to any of this rubbish, AMD themselves have made it perfectly clear and I think they are probably the most reliable source for this information.
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AMD RDNA™ 2 architecture is the foundation for next-generation PC gaming graphics, the PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series S and X consoles."
For these saying Sony/AMD cut 256bits from FPU.
I asked Locuza on Twitter and he liked me that.
Seems like... they cut things they won’t use like FDAA but not the 256bits support.So FPUs are still 256-bit like in regular Zen 2 right?
I wouldn't listen to any of this rubbish, AMD themselves have made it perfectly clear and I think they are probably the most reliable source for this information.
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AMD RDNA™ 2 architecture is the foundation for next-generation PC gaming graphics, the PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series S and X consoles."
Thanks.Seems like... they cut things they won’t use like FDAA but not the 256bits support.
Performs the same or slightly better than the 12 Tf "monster" in the vast majority of next gen titles, has a more advanced I/O tech, a better 4k BD player, has Wi-Fi 6, Blue tooth 5.1, a controller with several techs inside, an efficient, silent, and economic cooling system = saving the faceI think the die shot confirms the rumors that ps5 was built to launch @2019. Zen 1 CPU and RDNA 1 GPU is what is it is and got an upgrade on the SSD-I/O part last minute to save face.
Dreams about infinity/unified cache were destroyed today as it seems.
Fixed.*tick tock motherfucker*
Don't tell me we're back to RDNA 1.5 again.So the old RDNA 1.5 talk has returned, the question is, is it hear to stay... I still think there's more to come.
PS5 is custom RDNA 2, but I guess that can be interpreted multiple ways.
Wasn't the ban hammer working overtime for people spouting RDNA1 and 9TF FUD on this forum a short while ago?Don't tell me we're back to RDNA 1.5 again.
Wasn't the ban hammer working overtime for people spouting RDNA1 and 9TF FUD on this forum a short while ago?
Ah right. Thanks for the clarification.Not for RDNA1.5 if I remember correctly. But loads of people were banned for the 9TF comment. There was even an OT by the mods about it.
And that is all we need.I wouldn't listen to any of this rubbish, AMD themselves have made it perfectly clear and I think they are probably the most reliable source for this information.
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AMD RDNA™ 2 architecture is the foundation for next-generation PC gaming graphics, the PlayStation 5 and Xbox Series S and X consoles."