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[ethomaz]

Tony Hawks 1 & 2 Remaster is 120fps 1080p on PS5, but 120fps 1440p on XSX, does this have anything to do with the fact XSX supports 1440p resolution natively, or another reason?

If they support 4k 60fps then it fell weird to not have 1440p 120fps.

I mean I can understand a 1800p60 and 1080p120 combo but the actual makes no sense.

Unless the 4k60fps have big drops but people are saying it is smooth.

 

[sncvsrtoip]

If they support 4k 60fps then it fell weird to not have 1440p 120fps.

I mean I can understand a 1800p60 and 1080p120 combo but the actual makes no sense.

Unless the 4k60fps have big drops but people are saying it is smooth.

also 5700xt has like 120 - 150fps in 1440p max settings, ps5 shouldn't have any problems to run 1440@120

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Going by the blurry visuals, it probably would have been better to skip the CB and go with lower native res. The images would be crisper even though the stat sheet would show a lower res.

 

[cragarmi]

Just bear in mind they are mainly a sup port studio.

 

[SlimySnake]

Has this been posted?




Crazy shit.

lmao i was about to go on a rant shitting on modern AAA devs failing to make next gen games look this good.

then i realized this was on dreams. lol

 

[Mr Moose]

Going by the blurry visuals, it probably would have been better to skip the CB and go with lower native res. The images would be crisper even though the stat sheet would show a lower res.

Yup, just give that shit dynamic res without CB and it would look way better. Probably wouldn't be much lower natively.

 

[Rea]

Yes... there is no native/fixed mode in Miles Morales.... all of them drops resolution... it is just that the 30fps one holds 4k most of time but can drop do 1512p (DF tests) when the temporal injection kicks in.

I’m with you I don’t thing when the imagine is 4k native there is any way to inject temporal pixels.

Afew things to clarify, john from DF never mentioned that the resolution in Fidelity mode can drop to 1500p, the only mode which can drop to that resolution is the performance mode, he even said that in rare case it can drop to 1440p.
Also, in the game menu when you choose the graphics mode, you can see Insomniac mentioned that they use " Temporal techniques for based 4k resolution " in fidelity mode.
Timestamped.

 

[ethomaz]

Afew things to clarify, john from DF never mentioned that the resolution in Fidelity mode can drop to 1500p, the only mode which can drop to that resolution is the performance mode, he even said that in rare case it can drop to 1440p.
Also, in the game menu when you choose the graphics mode, you can see Insomniac mentioned that they use " Temporal techniques for based 4k resolution " in fidelity mode.
Timestamped.

They did in the article... the 4k 30fps mode drops to 1512p but it is very rare.

Edit - Or maybe I’m confusing with Spider-man remaster.

Marvel's Spider-Man Remastered: substantial enhancements vs PS4 Pro - plus ray tracing at 60fps

While Spider-Man: Miles Morales was a key launch title for PlayStation 5, the next-gen remaster of the webslinger's fir…

www.eurogamer.net

 

[Rea]

They did in the article... the 4k 30fps mode drops to 1512p but it is very rare.

Hmm, they say different things in the video and write another things in the article. I didn't know coz i never read article.
But in my opinion, temporal techniques is not just for upsampling, they can still be used for 4k based resolution for anti aliasing.

 

[ethomaz]

Hmm, they say different things in the video and write another things in the article. I didn't know coz i never read article.
But in my opinion, temporal techniques is not just for upsampling, they can still be used for 4k based resolution for anti aliasing.

I think I confused the articles... the listed drop happens on the same mode on Spider-man remaster on PS5.

Said that you can use temporal injection as AA.

 

[LiquidRex]

They are talking about internal resolution, not output. It doesn't matter in what resolution a PS5 game renders, output is always 1080p or 4k according to config.

 

[Rea]

I think I confused the articles... the listed drop happens on the same mode on Spider-man remaster on PS5.

Said that you can use temporal injection as AA.

I was talking about Miles Morales "only", lol.
I don't know about spider man remaster.

 

[Rea]

Another one for Xbox, old gen port.

 

[LiquidRex]

Trivia: Did you know the School in the very first Silent Hill game, is the same School from the movie Kindergarten Cop.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Assuming the PS5 can't output 1440P can developers still use it for marketing purposes?

 

[LiquidRex]

Assuming the PS5 can't output 1440P can developers still use it for marketing purposes?

Before this, they said both consoles were 1080p 120fps, so this to me seems more of a marketing tactic.

 

[jroc74]

Hmm, they say different things in the video and write another things in the article. I didn't know coz i never read article.
But in my opinion, temporal techniques is not just for upsampling, they can still be used for 4k based resolution for anti aliasing.

This might not apply to this, I havent followed the conversation....but this happens alot. It's why I recommend reading their articles and watching their videos.

The video will usually have extra stuff not in the article. Even tho its about the same subject.

 

[Rea]

This might not apply to this, I havent followed the conversation....but this happens alot. It's why I recommend reading their articles and watching their videos.

The video will usually have extra stuff not in the article. Even tho its about the same subject.

Actually i already check their article, they said the same thing,

"Of course, RT comes with a requisite hit to performance, so what does this mean for the rest of the presentation? Well, the fidelity mode delivers a native 4K output at 30 frames per second, which is combined with Insomniac's brilliant temporal upscaling solution for a supremely crisp image. You wouldn't think this is necessary at 4K, but this combination eliminates most aliasing and there is a tangible boost in clarity across the game when compared to PlayStation 4."

I don't like to read articles and personally prefer watching video and listening. They should be consistent with their YouTube videos and articles. Otherwise it could be misleading to the audience.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Before this, they said both consoles were 1080p 120fps, so this to me seems more of a marketing tactic.

I was thinking more along the lines of false marketing. If the PS5 can't output 1440P then you can't market your game as such. Even if you have a 1440P monitor the PS5 will just output it as a 1080P image.

I'm just wondering if this is a general thing with PS5 games.

I know Demon Souls is rendered at 1440P for the quality mode but it isn't marketed with that resolution if I'm not wrong.

 

[SubZer0]

You just linked to Insomniac's interview..

From that interview:



They are just saying they take 2 slightly more than half-frames to create a full 4k image (since each half frame would be slightly more than 2k.) That's what they mean by 4k image..

You guys are making no sense.. like what are you even trying to say? Why in the world would you render something in native, and then completely replace it with a different image?

It really doesn't matter since it's gorgeous lol.. but seriously, why are NXGamer and DF the authorities on Insomoniac's technique when they themselves explain it involves rendering slightly more than half the pixels per frame?

make no guesses read it properly and you will see that insomniacs temporal injection technique works simliar like TAA via temporal reconstruction

Here is a brief description how TAA works

"TAA works by comparing neighboring frames (temporally) and blending them to create a cleaner image in motion"

So is it possible to apply to an native 4k image TAA? Yes of course its pretty common on PC!
Would you say an native 4k image with TAA (for AA) isnt native 4k anymore?

Its fine if you dont belive them you dont have to, but for me its an easy choice whom i believe between you and them (DF & NX Gamer)
They are Tech Savvy and were more often right than wrong i think


on the other hand, you only make assumptions based on your opinion

 

[Sinthor]

I hope this doesn't mean what I think it means.

I don't understand. What are you THINKING this means? That whole KFC console thing IS a joke anyway. ISN'T IT????

 

[Carter Burke]

I don't know where to ask this.

It is possible for a PS4 game shipped today, to include PS5 features like 4k resolution without a patch, I mean, included in the disk?

 

[Shmunter]

I don't know where to ask this.

It is possible for a PS4 game shipped today, to include PS5 features like 4k resolution without a patch, I mean, included in the disk?

No. It may run better or even look sharper on PS5, but assets will be PS4 pro max.

 

[LiquidRex]

 

[Lunatic_Gamer]

Upcoming PS Plus games until July

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Grain of salt.

 

[Lunatic_Gamer]

BF6: New "Leaker" reconfirms BR, 128 Players + a never heard before Cross-Game-Mode



Source provided multiple proofs to the moderators, which were verified by them (see pinned comment)

 

[Esppiral]

Ratchet and clanck remaster?

 

[Lunatic_Gamer]

MOSES, a guy that is followed by the official BF account shared some details on BF6

 

[Lunatic_Gamer]

Sony’s Deal for Anime Platform Crunchyroll Faces Uncertainty (Report)​

Tech website The Information reported that the U.S. Justice Department has extended its anti-trust review into the deal. The move could delay completion of the deal by as much as six months, or even derail it completely. ​

Sony’s Deal for Anime Platform Crunchyroll Faces Uncertainty (Report)

Sony’s proposed purchase of anime streaming platform Crunchyroll is being picked over by the U.S. Justice Department, according to reports.

variety.com

Thanks Dementia Joe.

 

[M1chl]

Gotta say, the graphics like this...I mean that painting/composition is just

 

[Barakov]

Upcoming PS Plus games until July

/v/ - playstation insider here , here's PS plus games until July - Video Games - 4chan

playstation insider here , here's PS plus games until July - "/v/ - Video Games" is 4chan's imageboard dedicated to the discussion of PC and console video games.

boards.4channel.org

Grain of salt.

Interested in seeing how much of a upgrade Into the Nexus is. Who am I kidding? I'll be there day 1.

 

[Neo Blaster]

And your point is?

The resolution you see on those images is what each console uses to render the game internally. When it's time to send to your tv set, a scaler either decrease or increase resolution based on what you chose for the output in the config menu. XSS supports 720p, 1080p, 1440p and 4k, PS5 is 720p, 1080p and 4k.

 

[ethomaz]

I don't know where to ask this.

It is possible for a PS4 game shipped today, to include PS5 features like 4k resolution without a patch, I mean, included in the disk?

Yes.

It was supposed to all game gone gold after July 8 to already have PS5 support added without patch.

Take in mind that is the PS5 BC mode... not an actual native PS5 game.

 

[ErRor88]

Interesting take.
https://www.techradar.com/news/ps5-needs-discord-way-more-than-xbox

 

[LiquidRex]

And your point is?

The resolution you see on those images is what each console uses to render the game internally. When it's time to send to your tv set, a scaler either decrease or increase resolution based on what you chose for the output in the config menu. XSS supports 720p, 1080p, 1440p and 4k, PS5 is 720p, 1080p and 4k.

Yes, but what is happening atm until devs come out and say otherwise, is the PS5 isn't powerful enough to output the game at 1440p 120fps but the XSX is, which just isn't the case.

 

[DarkMage619]

Yes, but what is happening atm until devs come out and say otherwise, is the PS5 isn't powerful enough to output the game at 1440p 120fps but the XSX is, which just isn't the case.

Only people trying to score points on gaming forums care about this. Just like using launch titles to prove which console is more 'powerful'.

 

[ethomaz]

Interesting take.
https://www.techradar.com/news/ps5-needs-discord-way-more-than-xbox

I find it very weird because it is a hot take because MS choose to buy discord.

If that didn’t happen then the article may not exist and PS5 not need discord lol

It is a article based in actual points but points created after MS go get Discord.

Summary: PS5 doesn’t need Discord.

 

[IntentionalPun]

Its fine if you dont belive them you dont have to, but for me its an easy choice whom i believe between you and them (DF & NX Gamer)
They are Tech Savvy and were more often right than wrong i think


on the other hand, you only make assumptions based on your opinion

I believe Insomniac. Who you already linked to, then I quoted, and now you screenshotted lol

They render a bit more than half the pixels per frame. That's not native, and there's nothing wrong with that.. nor is it something worth getting butthurt about. Produces an image that's potentially better than 4k native.. so who cares?

 

[Neo Blaster]

Yes, but what is happening atm until devs come out and say otherwise, is the PS5 isn't powerful enough to output the game at 1440p 120fps but the XSX is, which just isn't the case.

You asked whether XSX being able to output 1440p natively could be a reason, which I answered to be totally unrelated (internal res vs output).

Regarding the difference between PS5 and XSX res, we must wait till analysis come out to check how framerate goes on both, this could be an AC Valhalla situation.

 

[ErRor88]

I find it very weird because it is a hot take because MS choose to buy discord.

If that didn’t happen then the article may not exist and PS5 not need discord lol

It is a article based in actual points but points created after MS go get Discord.

Summary: PS5 doesn’t need Discord.

True, IMO the points are valid to a degree. It would help Playstation fix some loose ends and act as a bridge to the PC world.

 

[SSfox]

Upcoming PS Plus games until July

/v/ - playstation insider here , here's PS plus games until July - Video Games - 4chan

playstation insider here , here's PS plus games until July - "/v/ - Video Games" is 4chan's imageboard dedicated to the discussion of PC and console video games.

boards.4channel.org

Grain of salt.

Captain Tsubasa would be neat, i was going to buy it but i cancelled because i heard it has insane loading times, and i can't stand that anymore lol , but for free i'll give it try tho i don't think i'm spending more than 1 hour with it if the loading are as ugly as i heard.

 

[IntentionalPun]

Just wanted to clarify something.

With Spiderman Miles Morales on PS5 it's creating 60 half frames per second to generate 30 full frames per second. The idea here is that 60 images get combined to produce 30.

Just wanted to make sure I'm understanding this correctly.

Honestly not sure; but they do say it's a performance enhancing technique as well as AA, so not sure how that would actually be a perf enhancement over native 4k 30, particularly since it's actually more than half the pixels they render? They said it happens over "a handful of frames" too, so I don't think it's an every other frame thing. I think every frame is a mix of previous and future frames (and the present frame), more than they are using it to "skip frames" and combine them.

I'm not some expert at this though lol.. I just know that when a dev says they can use a technique that involves rendering under native resolution.. it's not native resolution lol

 

[SubZer0]

I believe Insomniac. Who you already linked to, then I quoted, and now you screenshotted lol

They render a bit more than half the pixels per frame. That's not native, and there's nothing wrong with that.. nor is it something worth getting butthurt about. Produces an image that's potentially better than 4k native.. so who cares?

Yeah half the pixels at spiderman on ps4 pro

This ingame screen says everything

"temporal techniques provide an extra high quality picture from a 4k resolution base"

or should we ask Mark cerny maybe he can check their sourcecode and find out if they are lying

Anyway it looks like you have a very bad perception and thats the reason i find you are not qualified to discuss such things

 

[Hashi]

I remember that I couldn’t play at day one the Shadow Fall MP and posted my experience.... I found the SP graphics and gameplay pretty good but the MP was atrocious.... I posted a lot of pics from the MP.

People told me I was just hating when DF asked devs and the resolution was indeed cremated from half 1080p lol

It is even today the lower timer I had with a Killzone MP... I just can’t play it for long sessions.

However thought it was a good ideia should be removed from that position.

It has 960x1080 at 60fps. Checkerboard is used for framerate boost.

KZSF (multiplayer) has amazing good deferred rendering lighting with good transparency (alpha channel).

 

[SubZer0]

Yakuza like a Dragon ps5/XSX DF Analysis

 

[abel empire]

Its the crossgen api's at work none of this games are native this is a song weve heard for a while. They are using lastgen code.

 

[LiquidRex]

Yakuza like a Dragon ps5/XSX DF Analysis

Whats going on with the shadows on XSX.

 

[MasterCornholio]

Whats going on with the shadows on XSX.

Some people said that with Crash 4 it was the 1X shadow settings. Not sure if it's the same here.

 

[josephgamer]

Cyberpunk 2077 leaked some upcoming free DLC

source

 

[dcmk7]

Yeah half the pixels at spiderman on ps4 pro

This ingame screen says everything

"temporal techniques provide an extra high quality picture from a 4k resolution base"

or should we ask Mark cerny maybe he can check their sourcecode and find out if they are lying

Anyway it looks like you have a very bad perception and thats the reason i find you are not qualified to discuss such things