SmokSmog
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Musky_Cheese
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Dim
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thicc_girls_are_teh_best
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What’s Next For High Bandwidth Memory
Different approaches for breaking down the memory wall.semiengineering.com
Inaccurate most likely; that's the price HBM2 would cost in a perfect market. But the market is never perfect. SK Hynix and Samsung are on record saying clients are paying a premium for HBM2 and HBM2E; they do not sell them to clients for $120 on a 16GB stack and there are no clients whom they'd sell it to that low, even for companies like Sony and MS.
Also HBM2 is an older implementation of the spec and has probably been supplanted by HBM2E as the majority of HBM in production pipelines.
Norway was a foggy example off the top of my head from what I saw the other user post. Meant places like Hungary, Australia, New Zealand etc. Places where either XSX has a lead (slight or modest) or where the difference between the two isn't that great (within 10-15%).
Going by week-long statistics, anyway...
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DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
He appears neutral on his YT channel and one reason for that is because he deleted a lot of his YT videos that were pretty pro Xbox.
Here is one of them that someone downloaded before he deleted it.
Because the XB1X was released they were going around talking about how PC gamers were jealous because because it was going to out perform a GTX 1070.
It's fine if you predict its going to perform so well, but the way they were doing it was just so stupid.
Dealer was one of the main ones spreading this downgrade BS with Spider-Man, and even when people were point out he was wrong, he was complaining. He didn't even admit he was wrong after DF posted the video.
THE:MILKMAN
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The hell..!? You don't know who Shu is? You're sacked, mate.
Reindeer
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He was only a president of Sony worldwide studios
Dabaus
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What Phil spencer says is not the same as what reality is.
chemical boy
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Do you think we will have this level?
(Gameplay)
(Gameplay)
Reindeer
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Whether Microsoft buys a Japanese studio or not is something different, but I'm pointing out they clearly want to. On the other hand, you have no facts whatsoever yet here you are arguing like it's you who makes the decisions.
The Mad Draklor
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That and some are unable to drop their 6+ years of console wars fanboyism.
Reindeer
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He was full on CrapGamer back in the day lol. The guy just toned down his fanboy antics, but his obvious bias and constantly talking down "PlayStation fanboys" on his podcast gives him away.
Gamernyc78
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And imo the best corporate head in terms of personality and definitely a real, down to earth gamer. Wouldn't even hesitate to say he owns a switch and enjoys certain games.
MoreJRPG
Suffers from extreme PDS
Imagine how many pages when we get actual info.
it_wasn't_me
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Such a nice words for TimDog. LOL. First of all he has the most exposure on Twitter than on podcast. First and foremost he should be reasonable on Twitter, not on some podcast.
THE:MILKMAN
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Honestly it has been 2.5 years since my first PS5 spec guess post that is looking pretty accurate right now as we approach the reveal.
TheStruggler
Report me for trolling ND/TLoU2 threads
I thought Cory is working on a scifi game now based in the future and I thought his tweet alluded to his own game?
Rightisright
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No, and I think BC is one reason why. Do you really think either Sony or MS are going to all this trouble and work to get BC because they loves us? No. They realize that once you have invested in an ecosystem and have maybe 100 games from PS1 - PS4 that you have paid for and want to keep having access to, without the need for multiple consoles, then you will stay with that brand.
chigstoke
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Chapter 1
The Next Gen Speculation Thread
It was a long thread. 490 pages long, and suspected to continue. And it was full of the so called ‘insiders’. Osiris, not the Egyptian bloke. Timdog, believer of power brick GPU’s. hmqgg, the twitter bloke. That’s all I’ve got for him.
The battles were long and fierce. Insiders posting left right and centre.
It was all a load of bollocks.
The end.
Dontero
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No it wasn't. There were rumors that PS4 might have also some nagatives to gamers and people were expecting again like in MS case used games being gone. So when they announced with their shitty video that you can have used game mosts of people ignored ps plus multiplayer stuff.
yes X360 sold most consoles in previous era and it was widely more popular than PS3 in US which is the biggest market. They had every right to make Xbox One success and establish even more dominance on market which would then snowball like with every technology. Becuase no one wants to use #6th best streaming service or #5th best console.
Again wrong. For one like in some sort of retarded history channel everyone forgets that PS3 didn't cost 599 but 499 as there was 20GB model. Secondly PS3 sold record numbers in first year so it was also not the problem with lack of people buying it initially. What killed PS3 initially was that it was piece of shit hardware that no one knew how to develop for and it took serious time for most of developers to run anything on it.
Which killed pace and developers that wanted to release games to make money started to look for other platform to release their game on.
Second issue was release window. Year after X360 and PS3 never really has shown it was worth the wait.
I don't know what reality you live in but it is completely untrue. The only reason PS4 dominated this season was because of MS fucking it up.
First they were mess PR wise on announcement, then name (WiiU literally like situation) and despite having much cheaper core console they had to sell it for more because of Kinect and other garbage bolted onto it to emulate TV.
By the time Mattick was fired and Spencer took over it was already too late and people and developers jumped off from hypetrain much like they did when PS3 slip up.
Finally what CBOAT leaked out was widely talked about and literally articles in normal press were written. Like i said CBOAT leaking stuff was critical because it showed people that something like this can happen and when they went to see announcement they were already expecting bad news and were prepared to handle it instantly criticizing it instead of acting like someone hit them in back of the head like in case of PS+ multiplayer.
Tell that to MS it was only joke if they will have CBOAT data and will sue him.
There is plenty of court cases where people leaking private companies stuff were sued and lost.
I mean look at PS+ multiplayer fiasco. Everyone ate that shit up just because there were rumors that Sony might go MS way.
But let switch situation now and CBOAT had brother called crazy breasts on high speed place that said Sony is going to announce that multiplayer would be paid in advance. People would be furious and would be sharpening knives for announcement which would instantly sink down a lot PS4 reception. Just before that shit was up most of PS3 users used lack of paid online on PS as good feature and differentiator between Sony and MS.
All puff and huff but you used argument about "and why would i live there" which was made by MS PR guy in response to CBOAT leak about digital console when some user asked about MS going full digital with console. Which proves my point.
What CBOAT leak did was to alert everyone to MS actions before they happened so that when they would announce it everyone was ready to pounce on MS.
Good example of not being prepared was PS+ multiplayer. People were focused on other things while Sony quickly changed tune and said that it will improve multiplayer experience and other lies. People ate this shit up and now you have paid online of PS4.
It is obvious that the main fault here is MS but CBOAT had hand in destroying Xbox this generation.
Again if MS would have his adress they could easily argue in court and sack him for maybe even bilions in damages.
No he only release precise information on MS policies with infuriated rightly many people which then allowed people to be alerted ready to pounce on MS when they announced their shitty policies.
You act like he is some random leaker who go maybe one thing right.
I see you do it for second or third time already in thread. If you don't have leaks yourself then maybe you should stop posting or something. CBOAT at least is legit leaker unlike you and your whining about someone making leaks you don't like.
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Dim
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PS4 Pro Launch November 10th, 2016 First Polaris GPu launch June 29, 2016
Raja Koduri announce Polaris back in November 2015 and dont forget Polaris was a aggressive push production in market from AMD to catch up Nvidia
Reindeer
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I've already mentioned it here, I'll be very surprised if we don't reach that level of fidelity next gen. The lighting effects and some of the material work in that Demo don't look as impressive as what the latest Unreal Engine is capable of, so I think In some ways we'll even surpass it.
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Imtjnotu
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bitbydeath
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Gamernyc78
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DForce
NaughtyDog Defense Force
The only reason?
There's Xbox fans who believe Xbox should be as competitive as the PlayStation 4 based on what happened last generation. However, the argument can be made that the only reason why it was so close last generation is because Sony sold the PS3 at $500-$600 which made the 360 a more attractive product.
Dim
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And GPU Polaris design was done before PS4 Pro design.
By the numbers and dates best day launch for Xbox RDNA 2 is 1st Q of 2021 then
THE:MILKMAN
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Yep. Final spec NEO dev kit was tested by MIC in December 2015.
Dim
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Harry Potter
Rightisright
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Its also not needed. No way Sony or MS are gonna skimp on RAM this gen. One thing both companies are trying to do and that's get rid of bottlenecks. PS3 and 360 were limited by RAM. They fixed that in the next Gen. This gen is bottlenecked by the CPU, this will be fixes by going with Ryzen. I also think with faster SSDs this will help the performance of the RAM.
Reindeer
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Also got massive third party temporary exclusive deals by getting the likes of Bioshock and Mass Effect. They cut some big second party deals by getting Gears, Lost Odyssey, Blue Dragon, Alan Wake and so on. Microsoft was on the ball last gen.
Rightisright
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Yeah, nah.Somebody threw this up on reset in relation to ps5. Of course like everything else could be nothing
"The recent leaks show the following specs which are most likely to be PS5
CPU: Zen2 8 cores @ 2.8 GHz
GPU: 52CUs@1.9GHz, 12.65 TFlops
POWER VR ray tracing
RAM: HBM2E 16GB + 8GB DDR4
SSD: 5~ 5.5 GB/s NVMe
Bryank75
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Cellphones? How... How many phones do you use?
Rightisright
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Matt didn't do shit.Here you go with the same githib bs tht was shot down by Matt and isn't official present day facts. Stop the bs bro it's corny. We are going to tell you again more ppl in the industry in the know say ps5 has tht edge live and deal with it
Dim
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But Pro was a mid gen console with just a overclocked Cpu with implementation of Polaris in Gpu
Already at launch of PS4 Jaguar was a outdated APU
THE:MILKMAN
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All I know is he Tweeted the "END TRANSMISSION" thing with Morse code saying along the lines of 55 days and then ~55 days later (30th December) he Tweets he's going to CES for the first time hoping to see robots.
No conspiracy here, though.....*tiptoes out of thread*
bitbydeath
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Dim
Banned
By the numbers and console production timeline happened with 5700XT maybe?????
5800XT launch mid-end 2020...............................
The only APU leaks with RNDA2 is Vang Gogh at the moment i think and we dont have info about Vang Gogh
Rightisright
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Yeah I'm an Xbox guy, but I want a really strong Sony as well. Hell, I wish Nintendo tried harder with their console power. I have no interest in playing Nintendo games, but I really liked what they did with the GameCube from a tech point of view.
Dim
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Because you need to start a production line first maybe?
For the same reason RDNA1 shown at January 2019 maybe???
Amd is not McDonald's
No body knows but why you think is more sure a RDNA2 pure chip in hollidays of 2020 that a RDNA1 with implementations from RDNA2?????
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THE:MILKMAN
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I was just pointing out that it was probably correct to say the PS4 Pro Polaris chip was taped out before the PC chip. A similar thing has been rumoured about the PS5 being the first Navi chip.
I think where things are getting confused is many don't appreciate lead times are in the years and not months for these chips. It means design decisions need to be made about the chips years ahead of time. So we end up with RDNA1 plus RT and plus whatever other custom bits each vendor wants/requires and any roadmap features they can get. If either/both turn out to be RDNA2 somehow then that would be because a decision was made in 2016-17. Same thing with process node.
bitbydeath
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Reindeer
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They can with custom build.
saintjules
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Rightisright
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Watch Google buy up major third party developers to give stadia exclusives. Google could buy companies like Rock Star or EA and not even blink. I predict a period of crazy development house buy outs to give more exclusives. You have seen this in the streaming space with Netflix etc paying massive amounts to have exclusivity for programs like friends and Seinfeld.
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