Nintendo DS North America shipments rise to 1.4 Million, 700K sold

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700k sold? Very Impressive, I say.

Edit: Will NPD show how many DS games were sold? I'm very interested about the tie-in ratio.
 
Nice. But I still don't see how Nintendo intends to sell 5M by March. Let's say all 1.4 million are sold in America by Xmas, for the sake of argument. For the sake of this same argument let's say another 1.4 million are sold in Japan by Dec. 25th.

That still leaves Nintendo an additional 2.5 million DSs to sell, and no holiday season or big software to do it. I don't see how a perfect scenario could sell them 5 million units of hardware.


Actually... wait. Do they just intend on SHIPPING 5M by March? If so, disregard this post.
 
Interesting, that is a hundred thousand less than I had heard, but still its good they are trying to jam as many systems out there as they can, the things are barely on the shelf before they fly off of it again.
 
Aweome, a freind of mine has called atleast 10 different stores in the area and all are sold out. Hopefully this will better his chances of getting one.
 
This parallels Nintendo 64 to a tee. Nintendo said there'd be shortages, and then they mysteriously are able to produce and ship more. Funny how that happens every time, just in the nick of time.
 
Wario64 said:
:lol

This handheld war is gonna be hell


I dunno. I still think the DS leaves Nintendo in an awkward position two to three years down the road when they unveil their next gen GBA which will probably be graphically superior to the DS. But it isn't like 150 dollars is that much money and no one should really complain about getting a couple years enjoyment out of a 150 dollar product. Will be interesting too to see if the next GBA is somehow backwards compatible with the DS.
 
GDJustin said:
Nice. But I still don't see how Nintendo intends to sell 5M by March. Let's say all 1.4 million are sold in America by Xmas, for the sake of argument. For the sake of this same argument let's say another 1.4 million are sold in Japan by Dec. 25th.

That still leaves Nintendo an additional 2.5 million DSs to sell, and no holiday season or big software to do it. I don't see how a perfect scenario could sell them 5 million units of hardware.


Actually... wait. Do they just intend on SHIPPING 5M by March? If so, disregard this post.

Well, we have the PAL launches, the rest of Asia and Nintendo's efforts overall.
 
Yeah, we have an "informal" list at my store, and it's absolutely absurd. And we don't even tell everyone who comes in asking for it that we have an informal list. The demand for the DS, and the PS2, are ridiculously high in this area this holiday season.
 
snapty00 said:
This parallels Nintendo 64 to a tee. Nintendo said there'd be shortages, and then they mysteriously are able to produce and ship more. Funny how that happens every time, just in the nick of time.

Companies never withhold systems to raise demand... it's inconceivable...

...oh...oh wait...other companies do that all the time!?
 
snapty00 said:
This parallels Nintendo 64 to a tee. Nintendo said there'd be shortages, and then they mysteriously are able to produce and ship more. Funny how that happens every time, just in the nick of time.

Urrm. Isn't it possible that they made more when those Japanese retailer pre-orders came in or something?
 
I don't know. I'm not a Nintendo hardware engineer. :P Just speculating on a possibility which may or may not come to fruition.
 
Mrbob said:
I dunno. I still think the DS leaves Nintendo in an awkward position two to three years down the road when they unveil their next gen GBA which will probably be graphically superior to the DS. But it isn't like 150 dollars is that much money and no one should really complain about getting a couple years enjoyment out of a 150 dollar product. Will be interesting too to see if the next GBA is somehow backwards compatible with the DS.

I think we can pretty much guarentee that if the DS is successful that it will be backwards compatible and have dual screens+touch screen. Think of it like this. Instead of having the two processors like the DS, they could have the gamecube(equivalent) processor as the main one and the DS's main processor as the secondary, like they've done with the DS hardware.
 
CVXFREAK said:
Well, we have the PAL launches, the rest of Asia and Nintendo's efforts overall.
If I had to guess i'd say that the PAL launch would be on March 31, the last possible day of Q1. I don't think the PAL launches will be very successful anyway.
 
snapty00 said:
This parallels Nintendo 64 to a tee. Nintendo said there'd be shortages, and then they mysteriously are able to produce and ship more. Funny how that happens every time, just in the nick of time.
I would much rather hear about a shortage and snag a piece of hardware then hear about hardware and get nothing but shortage (PS2).

But what do I care I already snagged the PS2 and won't be getting a DS untill next year

its funny how many people want to reserve a DS and PS2 now :lol
 
Does that mean they can be found now? If so, that's cool. Too bad there's not a lot of games out, better off just waiting I think.
 
Hey snapty I got one for your Nintentroll rolodex, next DS sales thread just point out that they are only getting high sales because of the holiday season.

Ok so I stole that from IGN, but it's pretty good yeah?
 
DS already hitting more than 1 million is really promising.

Somehow I doubt Sony will still only launch with 200k PSPs in a few days.
 
Justin Bailey said:
Hey snapty I got one for your Nintentroll rolodex, next DS sales thread just point out that they are only getting high sales because of the holiday season.

Ok so I stole that from IGN, but it's pretty good yeah?

November 21st was actually the day 7 of the 9 planets were in perfect line formation at exactly 12:00am. It is estimated those forces alone accounted for 80% of DS sales.

If not for the advantage of the cosmos, the DS would be stillborn.
 
Justin Bailey said:
Hey snapty I got one for your Nintentroll rolodex, next DS sales thread just point out that they are only getting high sales because of the holiday season.

Ok so I stole that from IGN, but it's pretty good yeah?
NO, I'M ASHAMED
 
I believe that Nintendo *could* keep the DS and GameBoy lines without having one cannabilizing the other. The only reason i think this is because consumers love gadgets and handheld consoles are the ultimate gadget. People get new PDAs, cell phones, etc. every one to two years, so why not consoles? As long as one has a different "gimmick" and is more powerful than the other, i think they can co-exist.
 
If DS is really a runaway success and they want GameBoy Next to be backwards compatible with it, they could just make the next handheld have one tall touchscreen that can fit both DS displays. Or if they want to make the system's screen wide rather than long, they could make it display DS screens side-by-side, perhaps with a scaled vertical option.
 
Damn. Nintendo is going to have a really, really good year. I wonder how much they are making off each ds sold. It can't cost that much to make one.
 
All 6 fucking billion people on Earth could buy a DS and snapty would still say:

"I'm not impressed at all. Sure, everyone on earth now owns a DS, but what about the animals? Nintendo's stupid, they can't even sell to the animal population."
 
Celicar said:
Damn. Nintendo is going to have a really, really good year. I wonder how much they are making off each ds sold. It can't cost that much to make one.

They could well surpass one billion USD in profit, for the financial year.
 
For fun, here's some Yamauchi quotes circa E3 '04:

- If we can increase the scope of the industry, we can activate the global market and life Japan out of depression - that is Nintendo's mission

- If the DS succeeds, we will rise to heaven, but if it fails we will sink to hell

- The next two years will decide Nintendo's fate


It's still early, but so far, I would say they're on their way to heaven. :)
 
paul777 said:
For fun, here's some Yamauchi quotes circa E3 '04:

- If we can increase the scope of the industry, we can activate the global market and life Japan out of depression - that is Nintendo's mission

- If the DS succeeds, we will rise to heaven, but if it fails we will sink to hell

- The next two years will decide Nintendo's fate


It's still early, but so far, I would say they're on their way to heaven. :)

PSP vs. DS will be the deciding factor.
 
If we can increase the scope of the industry, we can activate the global market and life Japan out of depression - that is Nintendo's mission

:lol Oh Yamauchi, you're the gift who keeps on giving.
 
paul777 said:
For fun, here's some Yamauchi quotes circa E3 '04:

- If we can increase the scope of the industry, we can activate the global market and life Japan out of depression - that is Nintendo's mission

- If the DS succeeds, we will rise to heaven, but if it fails we will sink to hell

- The next two years will decide Nintendo's fate


It's still early, but so far, I would say they're on their way to heaven. :)
well basically what he's saying is, if we manage to educate graphics whores about other ways of gaming then we will rise in heaven, but if graphics whores fails to regonize pretty CG isn't gaming then we will sink to hell.
 
monkeyrun said:
well basically what he's saying is, if we manage to educate graphics whores about other ways of gaming then we will rise in heaven, but if graphics whores fails to regonize pretty CG isn't gaming then we will sink to hell.

Yes because the allure of "better technology" is CG! They don't help enhance anything else about games at all! Why, everything done today with PS2 and Xbox and Gamecube could have just as easily been done in the early age of gaming!
 
I think Nintendo has been successful in making the GBA and DS seperate product lines.

I mean people still see them as similar, but it's like a car manufacturer making different car models, one is more of a budget/convienance product, the other is a bit more a higher end device.

The profit margin on the DS is probably similar to the GBA SP, the extra price point just covers the cost of the added technology.

When Game Boy Next comes out, I think that will take the position the DS has right now, while the DS will then more to the "budget" half of Nintendo's portable one-two punch.

To make the GB Next backwards compatible with the DS they could always consider a swivel screen, so say you can swivel it to a horizontal position (widescreen) for GBN games, and then to a vertical position to play DS stuff, or if a developer prefers that aspect ratio instead (ie: for shooters).

I think PSP will also be very successful, but I don't think Nintendo is going to just hand over marketshare like they did with the N64.
 
soundwave05 said:
I think Nintendo has been successful in making the GBA and DS seperate product lines.

I mean people still see them as similar, but it's like a car manufacturer making different car models, one is more of a budget/convienance product, the other is a bit more a higher end device.

The profit margin on the DS is probably similar to the GBA SP, the extra price point just covers the cost of the added technology.

When Game Boy Next comes out, I think that will take the position the DS has right now, while the DS will then more to the "budget" half of Nintendo's portable one-two punch.

I agree. Sustaining two pieces of hardware, especially when they're at such different price/tech points, shouldn't have been considered so stupid. I mean Sony did it with the PSOne/PS2. It's been clear to me that rather than coexisting side by side, the DS would take its place up top, with the GBA below it, still chugging away. In 2-3 years the GameBoy Next will sit up top, and the $79 (59? 49?) DS will still move a couple hundred thousand units of hardware a month.

In fact, I wrote a big story on GD Biz about this very subject on monday. It's a fine line to walk, but I was confident at the time that Nintendo's marketing and pricing structure WAS allowing for both handhelds to succeed without cannibalizing each others sales. One doesn't have to succeed at the expense of the other. These sales announcements are just sorta proving that point.
 
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