BlackTron
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Didn't get enough reactions to your Switch 2 cardboard packaging concern post and decided to fish deeper by leapfrogging ahead to Switch 3's future slights?
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Didn't get enough reactions to your Switch 2 cardboard packaging concern post and decided to fish deeper by leapfrogging ahead to Switch 3's future slights?
ValiantInstance
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You need the carrying case if your Steam Deck is leaving the house yes. I wouldn't want to drop it without one.How's so ? it sounds kinda hyperbolic tbh...
I suppose you mean carrying case + couple of cables and a charger which...would be the same exact thing in the switch's case, no ?
It is cumbersome to carry around, takes up nearly all the space in a messenger bag for instance. I would never consider getting it out on a train or in an airport. Battery was nothing to write home about either and that's putting it lightly.
On the other hand, you can actually fit a Switch in your jeans pocket. Especially if it's a Lite.
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Kilau
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Got a nice little carrying case and screen protector ready. Need to devise a way to quickly stash the system safely if one the high ranks walks into my office. 
Also hope it doesn't really take 3 hours for full charge, seems longer than a modern device would need but maybe that's just the size of the battery.
Also hope it doesn't really take 3 hours for full charge, seems longer than a modern device would need but maybe that's just the size of the battery.
BlackTron
Member
How's so ? it sounds kinda hyperbolic tbh...
I suppose you mean carrying case + couple of cables and a charger which...would be the same exact thing in the switch's case, no ?
The Switch inside a protective case takes up less space than a completely naked Steam Deck. The light grey thing is a generic 4k laptop dock that works fine. The only other thing to worry about is a charger, and unless you're docking it, you can use a 5w USB charger safely to get by. No, this isn't a Switch 2, but you get my point.
Actually, make that two Switch in a case take up less space than a Steam Deck. That's a hacked one hiding under there.
Buggy Loop
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Switch 2 has a fan inside. The dock's one is supposedly to help with docked mode but I'm still not sure how that works with how it is placed in the dock.
Its 5W difference between Switch 2's 10W handheld vs Steamdeck's 15W. Wattage does not explain the heatsink of Steam deck to be equivalent to the thickness of the Switch 2.
More serviceable, easier to repair, SSD replacement, etc, yes sure.
BlackTron
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clarky
Gold Member
It has cross save? Might pick it up if this is correct.
Boy bawang
Member
Same except I never played it. But I have several intercontinental plane trips each months for work so the promise of playing this while traveling is really enticing.
BlackTron
Member
At the time preorders went live, I felt FOMO that the console might only get more expensive, so I caved. My worries about this are not as strong today as they were then (taco) , but hey, what the hell. Getting it over with.
Buggy Loop
Member
It happens to me, I made mistakes with steam deck too because I don't own one.
Valve going all in on self repair is commendable to be honest, but it comes at the cost of being in a chunky boi envelope. I think for PC handheld its fine, if serviceable. No idea if ROG ally and other upper range handhelds are.
CrustyBritches
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Not even the Lite is something I'd call "pocketable". Maybe the 2DSXL, but really you need to go down to a 3DS to get to something you could carry in your pocket. Switch OLED is absolutely in the same class as Deck for requiring a carrying case.
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In general, most of the size difference between Deck and OLED is in the controls. Example, Deck vs Switch with Hori split-pad pro:
or the control cradle I use:
This isn't to say that Switch 2 isn't a sleek, powerful design. It looks awesome. Still it's 534gr. vs 640gr.(Deck OLED). 4.5in x 10.7in x .55in vs 4.6in x 11.73in x 1.93in(Deck has protruding control conture).
This picture is disingenuous. Deck is in a case here:
We already had a thread with both of the systems without a case:
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clarky
Gold Member
I was playing on a mates Deck just the other day.Not even the Lite is something I'd call "pocketable". Maybe the 2DSXL, but really you need to go down to a 3DS to get to something you could carry in your pocket. Switch OLED is absolutely in the same class as Deck for requiring a carrying case.
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In general, most of the size difference between Deck and OLED is in the controls. Example, Deck vs Switch with Hori split-pad pro:
This isn't to say that Switch 2 isn't a sleek, powerful design. It looks awesome. Still it's 534gr. vs 640gr.(Deck OLED). 4.5in x 10.7in x .55in vs 4.6in x 11.73in x 1.93in(Deck has protruding control conture).
This picture is disingenuous. Deck is in a case here:
We already had a thread with both of the systems without a case:
Its massive, but luckily not very heavy and much more ergonomic than the OG Switch. I'd take bigger and no cramp everyday of the week.
FalconPunch
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I don't know why people keep referencing switch 2 sales metrics as if it's of any concern to me. I'm only discussing my opinion on the matter and the success of the switch 2 has nothing to do with me. As long as I get value from my purchase, that's all that matters.
As for what follows, who knows. All I can say for certain is that there's usually a delay between an action and the consequences of said action. None of that is my problem. I don't work at Nintendo.
ValiantInstance
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Now do a top down view.Not even the Lite is something I'd call "pocketable". Maybe the 2DSXL, but really you need to go down to a 3DS to get to something you could carry in your pocket. Switch OLED is absolutely in the same class as Deck for requiring a carrying case.
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In general, most of the size difference between Deck and OLED is in the controls. Example, Deck vs Switch with Hori split-pad pro:
This isn't to say that Switch 2 isn't a sleek, powerful design. It looks awesome. Still it's 534gr. vs 640gr.(Deck OLED). 4.5in x 10.7in x .55in vs 4.6in x 11.73in x 1.93in(Deck has protruding control conture).
This picture is disingenuous. Deck is in a case here:
We already had a thread with both of the systems without a case:
I don't know about you but I would be absolutely fine taking a Switch out and about without a case. It's designed for children to use, you can throw it around a bit.
My Steam Deck? I cringed when it fell off my bed once. The thing is a brick. I personally don't feel comfortable even taking the thing out of the house, and that deserves due consideration.
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CrustyBritches
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Yep. It's not really even close. Deck is way more comfortable and versatile.
I agree that Deck is a big ass handheld PC, but lets not pretend Switch 2 isn't an absolutely massive portable.
Are you asserting that Switch 2 will be tougher? I'm not understanding. And no, I have never brought my Switch OLED out without a case, same for Lite. That's what 2DSXL is for. Same will go for Switch 2. Thing is massive and needs a case with a handle.
Zannegan
Member
I feel like, for the Deck at least, they're primarily trying to make it comfortable, and they succeeded. I do wish the Joycon 2.0 were a little thicker and more grippable like the Wii Remotes were.
Kabelly
Member
pretty sure you have to buy the enhanced edition or dlc of BOTW/TOTK. just sticking in your Switch 1 cartridge won't do anything.
But then they said Odyssey 4k is a free update. Just depends on Nintendo if they want to skim you for more or not.
ValiantInstance
Member
If you were to drop both from say 10 feet, I know which one is far more likely to break.
One is actually portable, the other isn't. This isn't controverial to say. Most of these 'handhelds' have poor battery life and actually can't be held in the air for more than 20 minutes without your arms getting tired.
This is one of the big selling points of the Switch - balancing power with form factor. It's not cumbersome, you can throw it in a bag and you might not even have to consider bringing a charger with you.
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Boy bawang
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Honestly, while the deck is bigger, they're both above the threshold of pocketability, while both remaining below the size threshold for portability.
While the switch is indeed sleeker, it doesn't make much difference for me.
While the switch is indeed sleeker, it doesn't make much difference for me.
Mozza
Member
Just watch the meltdowns on here when Switch 3 launches with the power of five PS6's taped together.
Awful cover art of switch 2
Horrible with that Switch 2 label, and to make matters worse, those white letters that no one cares about and the QR code.
It damages the art.
keefged4
Member
I know damn fine I will cave and get Elden Ring on it even though I've finished it to completion on PS4, PS5 and PC, and yes, Steam Deck too. So I understand.
Boo Who?
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Yup. Works on all platforms.
Emedan
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Frame rate dips should be remedied without the enhanced update and it'll stay on target more solidly. Though obviously no increase in top frame rates.
JohnSpartanLee
Member
For anyone who still thinks this is just a Switch Pro:
apple_of_enlightenment
Member
I wonder if this an attempt to advertise or even present a doorway to the digital version direct from physical shop floors. Toys R Us wouldn't have let this pass.
apple_of_enlightenment
Member
Cool. But what's the source for this?For anyone who still thinks this is just a Switch Pro:
Zathalus
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Compared to the Steam Deck, the only real advantage the Switch 2 has in portability is the thinness of the device. The weight difference is only ~100g as well. I highly recommend that anyone travelling with either use a travel case for both. The Switch is indeed the sleeker device, but they are both roughly the same portability wise.
MSduderino
Member
You absolutely need a travel case for any portable IMO nowadays. This isnt the 90s.
Astray
Member
I personally got mine from Skull&Co (along with a gripcase), it's been sitting around since end of April rofl.
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
The last console I carried around without a case was the 3DS, and that's just because the clamshell design protected the screens. Nowadays maybe something like the Retroid Pocket Flip 2 could be hauled around without a case, but it's still a bit larger than a 6-7 inch screen cell phone or small tablet. You'd have to go down to one of those GBA-SP knockoffs to get that kind of portability these days, but they are FAR less powerful than modern handhelds like the Switch 2 or Steam Deck.
MSduderino
Member
The paywall is $10 or get NSO + expan. It's worth it if you are revisiting those games.
Trilobit
Absolutely Cozy
Yeah, I honestly felt that Switch was nearing the limit where I felt it was portable, but a Deck is not even a choice for me. I guess I'm too accustomed to seeing handhelds being in the size of a GBA or DS Lite, which is the perfect size for me. It'd be cool if we'd get a Switch 2 Macro at some point.
bender
What time is it?
Switch 2 is a beast.
I'm with you in that none of these handhelds are pocketable, but the depth of the deck makes it much more cumbersome to lug around and that problem is exacerbated when you put them in a case. I do hope that Nintendo returns to a more pocketable design in the future and I do think we'll eventually see that as that's another way to "reset" the hardware capabilities and keep development costs in check. That's probably another generation or two away though.
Not even the Lite is something I'd call "pocketable". Maybe the 2DSXL, but really you need to go down to a 3DS to get to something you could carry in your pocket. Switch OLED is absolutely in the same class as Deck for requiring a carrying case.
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In general, most of the size difference between Deck and OLED is in the controls. Example, Deck vs Switch with Hori split-pad pro:
This isn't to say that Switch 2 isn't a sleek, powerful design. It looks awesome. Still it's 534gr. vs 640gr.(Deck OLED). 4.5in x 10.7in x .55in vs 4.6in x 11.73in x 1.93in(Deck has protruding control conture).
This picture is disingenuous. Deck is in a case here:
We already had a thread with both of the systems without a case:
I'm with you in that none of these handhelds are pocketable, but the depth of the deck makes it much more cumbersome to lug around and that problem is exacerbated when you put them in a case. I do hope that Nintendo returns to a more pocketable design in the future and I do think we'll eventually see that as that's another way to "reset" the hardware capabilities and keep development costs in check. That's probably another generation or two away though.
Krathoon
Member
Yeah. I am hoping that they will ship them out early. Have release day delivery.
jshackles
Gentlemen, we can rebuild it. We have the capability to make the world's first enhanced store. Steam will be that store. Better than it was before.
Most likely we'll see foldable screen tech get used in a way that lets handheld gaming devices return to being clamshell or clamshell-like, and thus more pocketable. I imagine something like the newer Razr phones
But with controls somehow tucked away inside. It's hard to say, people's obsession with screen size on these devices seems to be limitless, even folding something the size of the Switch 2 in half would make it more portable, but still quite large.
ItsGreat
Member
They definitely do not. Then dock scratched my original Switch.
A £10 screen protector is well worth it until the machine is old hat.
DragoonKain
Neighbours from Hell
I was charged for my order, it should be shipping within the next few days then. Only question is if I get it on release day.
MSduderino
Member
I'm bummed I didn't select express shipping in my scramble clicking on April 24th midnight and Target won't let me change. Hopefully won't matter much if I can get it day of or even next day (Friday) but I won't be playing at midnight launch like my best bud and some here.
JohnSpartanLee
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Several sources, Wikipedia even states 3.09 for Switch 2 (instead of 3.072).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nintendo_Switch (393 GFLOPS = 0.393 TFLOPS)
Nintendo Switch 2 - Wikipedia
clarky
Gold Member
Im taking that these game get a locked 60 and uprez? Ill let you know in a week.
Giallo Corsa
Member
Quick question boys :
I'm about to create a Nintendo account and I was wondering whether the country of residence you're gonna use during the creation has anything to do with game availability, eShop pricing etc...
My PS5 account for example is Greek and the PSN storefront is obviously Greek - whenever I had a problem though with my account/funds etc PS Italy customer support (which I reside ATM) would always redirect me to PS Greece since, again, the account is Greek.
Having said that, using a Greek account has its benefits/perks since I can usually grab 50€ wallet fund cards for 39.99 on online shops - is it the same thing with Nintendo ?
Also : was gonna order it from Amazon but...they're out of stock atm (they were still available yesterday ffs), is the Nintendo shop ok or shall i get it from somewhere else ?
You can't beat Amazon's refund policies and that's why I usually shop from them but unfortunately they ran out of stock.
Thanks
PS : Nickname and online ID can only be 10 characters long ? Wtf man
I'm about to create a Nintendo account and I was wondering whether the country of residence you're gonna use during the creation has anything to do with game availability, eShop pricing etc...
My PS5 account for example is Greek and the PSN storefront is obviously Greek - whenever I had a problem though with my account/funds etc PS Italy customer support (which I reside ATM) would always redirect me to PS Greece since, again, the account is Greek.
Having said that, using a Greek account has its benefits/perks since I can usually grab 50€ wallet fund cards for 39.99 on online shops - is it the same thing with Nintendo ?
Also : was gonna order it from Amazon but...they're out of stock atm (they were still available yesterday ffs), is the Nintendo shop ok or shall i get it from somewhere else ?
You can't beat Amazon's refund policies and that's why I usually shop from them but unfortunately they ran out of stock.
Thanks
PS : Nickname and online ID can only be 10 characters long ? Wtf man