Eolz
Member
You can get this as long as you buy digitally either as preorder or in the two weeks following launch.
From what I've understood...
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Nioh Review Thread
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You can get this as long as you buy digitally either as preorder or in the two weeks following launch.
From what I've understood...
So the story continues post-game like Dragon's Dogma?
Imp the Dimp
Member
I don't think it's better than Bloodborne tbf but I think it's the best single player game I have played since BB.
Holundrian
Unconfirmed Member
Oh post game has a story? Interesting....
What's your take on where you believe a Nioh 2 should go?
You think they can do a good story in the next game or is it bad enough that they should just treat it as an after thought and double down on the diablo esque customization elements and improve combat even further?
It doesn't matter if he didn't fight...Samurai also didn't fight Yokai at the time either
I just find it odd when people criticize this game as "whitewashing" because it features a Caucasian protagonist even though it was developed by a Japanese company
I'm already hyped for this but this is sending it through the roof.
No, no, Demon's Souls was inventing the subgenre of what we now call soulslike. I didn't mean Bloodborne, that was a nicely refined take with a few effective changes.
I understand where you're coming from though, I'm basically just arguing semantics.
The perfect Dark
Banned
It does but to be honest....this could easily be a From Software game except for the amazing combat and the lackluster story (so far).
Imo this is more souls than every other game except for the souls games, lol. And that's a compliment.
Ahh, alright. I can agree with you. So far I'd describe Nioh as a soulslike. It just has way better (and more satisfying) combat (imo) than any of the souls games. It has shortcuts, secrets and great level design. Lots of items and random loot.
I can't say anything about the story though.
eyeball_kid
Member
Of course it matters, since they bothered to attach this character to a historical person. It's one thing to make up fantastical shit, it's a videogame and steeped in Japanese mythos, but I'm not sure why they bothered to use his name when he was just a businessman. But I think the producer(?) was obsessed with this guy.
And I didn't say the game is whitewashing at all, not sure where you got that from.
Chaos2Frozen
Member
I've explained to someone before who ask "There are thousands of Japanese samurai, why pick the one white guy?"
To which I've said, "You answered your own question- There are already thousands of Japanese Samurai, but nobody has made a game about the first western samurai."
White people would have the perspective of "Samurai games should be about Japanese" but to the Japanese they probably don't care as much because they have thousands of media about their own Samurai, but having a white protagonist in that setting it unique to them.
To which I've said, "You answered your own question- There are already thousands of Japanese Samurai, but nobody has made a game about the first western samurai."
White people would have the perspective of "Samurai games should be about Japanese" but to the Japanese they probably don't care as much because they have thousands of media about their own Samurai, but having a white protagonist in that setting it unique to them.
AHA-Lambda
Member
Or maybe it's just not very good?
I thought ds3 already had a good variety of bosses, imo.
It's been said before
the producer was obsessed with the history of William Adams
they wanted an Irish protagonist because of Ireland's mystical history
and they wanted a Foreigner's perpsective
Eolz
Member
This.
It's a pretty unique setting, I don't see why some people complain that it's not following the real story perfectly. It's a Team Ninja game where you fight Yokai and where (spoilers) happen. Of course it's not realistic.
The perfect Dark
Banned
It's more straight forward so far. Not really mysterious. But that might change.
To be fair though the Onimusha fan within me would have exploded if they had casted Takeshi Kaneshiro for the lead
My guess is, like other Team Ninja(as well as omega force) works like Toukiden, its very 'anime' and goes crazy in a way that for certain westerners can be 'turn off your brain'-ish.
Of course that's just a guess.
They are working from a screen play of another person (Akira Kurosawa)
Eolz
Member
I haven't played it, but I guess that the story is around the level of Ninja Gaiden. So if you don't mind that, it shouldn't be awful.
edit: as Inuhanyou said.
I pretty much felt the same way as Ian on one of the EZA podcasts where he initially felt weird about it, was told that William was a real guy and a notable historical figure in Japanese culture, and basically just said "oh I guess that's fine then, never mind".
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I think there is a difference between something like Nioh and something like The Great Wall (the matt damon movie)
although even in that Great Wall movie, its not like it was created by westerners, it was Chinese made and its not like Matt Damon is playing a chinese guy, the story is about European mercenaries that come to China in search of gunpowder
I felt like people thought he was literally playing a Chinese guy at first
The Antitype
Banned
Playing through Bloodborne. Struggling, but enjoying it.
Will probably pick this up when it hits half-price on a PSN or Best Buy sale.
Will probably pick this up when it hits half-price on a PSN or Best Buy sale.
ASilentProtagonist
Member
Plenty of non humanoid boss fights. A huge variety, i'd say. There are about
34
I really like how Berserk -esque this game got with certain stuff. Lots of really awesome designs to see.
hey_it's_that_dog
benevolent sexism
It's a Team Ninja game. Why would anyone expect the story to be good?
edit: oh right, it has as "script" this time
edit: oh right, it has as "script" this time
I know you said you couldn't tell much about the post story cause of the embargo
but is there any hints to a sequel or is it pretty self contained?
there's a first time for everything. there's no reason to not give things benefit of a doubt before you've experienced them yourself
onemanasylum
Banned
I love dark souls, and really want this game but I already bought RE7 and horizon, damn. I hope I win the lottery.
I'm pretty sure several of the reviews in the OP mentioned that being a thing, including that it updates with further data as you rack up more kills of that particular kind of gribblies. None of the demos had such a feature though.
The perfect Dark
Banned
Let me ask this....do you think the souls games had a good story? Or Bloodborne? I mean, it's mysterious but...is it good? I don't play Dark Souls 1-3 (or Bloodborne) because I like the story. It#s the gameplay that matters....for me at least. And Nioh's gameplay is outstanding.
I'd say there was more to the 'lore' of the souls games that people discuss than an actual 'story', which essentially is nonexistent.
The world itself and discovering more about it is what keeps people talking because its intentionally cryptic and doesn't explain shit for the most part.
I don't think it's that good, and the fact that people actually make money off of analyzing the lore baffles me to this day, but it's helped a lot by the way it's presented.
Old story vs lore argument. The story of those games are straightforward, not a highlight. But it's how the story fits into the game design and makes perfect sense as to what the player experiences mechanically and beyond that the setting of the world being conveyed through playing the game was indeed an integral part of the Souls experience. Even if you didn't follow it, you could feel it, this sense of history and importance to the environments and characters you encounter. That is a certain type of storytelling very specific to videogames and thus to me very special.
Nice!
Karak
Member
Looks like mine is a no go. I am swamped with other reviews and I just finished up Dead Rising 4 Composers Interview and one with Justin Bell about Pillars. I just don't think I have the time anymore. I scheduled a bunch out. But I am not a huge channel so it was always a gamble.
ASilentProtagonist
Member
You'll see
Oh, boy. Nioh 2 content wise would be no easy task. They put so much in here in terms of bosses (
Big Higher Powers from Japanese mythos, historical figures from Feudal Japan)
My take. If this sells well, Nioh 2 is definitely in the cards.
A lot of people will hate me for this but No I didn't enjoy any the stories of the soulsgames . I honestly don't understand the hype behind them they don't make any sense and they don't have a good conclusion . I only played the shit out of them for the gameplay
Probably because it's the lore aspect. For example, if you look at Bloodborne many aspects of its lore is very lovecraftian
"Good story" is too vague of a term. The way the story of Souls is told makes it a good prop to the gameplay - i.e. contributing to the sense of dread and intrigue simply by being vague, foreboding, and hinting at depth. It doesn't matter if it's actually deep or not - the hint of depth itself is the point of it. Is the story itself on its own good? Doesn't really matter; being a good story is irrelevant to the duty of the story in this case. It has a job that it accomplishes which is supporting the gameplay mood and that's all that really needs to be said about it.
Lionel Richie
Member
That's the issue with our generation, we rush to be outraged without thinking it through and with no proper knowledge of cause since I bet my left nut that 99% of the people who did that in this case aren't asian.
PepsimanVsJoe
Member
Probably already answered but can anyone who has Nioh but doesn't have PS+ confirm if revenants/any online functionality are still available?
Very true. Unfortunately the blow back from that in the form of actual racism/sexism and the supposed solution to being 'anti tolerance' is another big issue with today's society.
Seems like everyone is offended, either at something directly or the notion of someone else being offended.
Yeah. You can fight the graves of other players AI even without PS+