spatenfloot
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What about Dreamcast?
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NPD Sales Results for March 2015 [Up1: Nintendo numbers, PS4 placing]
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What about Dreamcast?
MrNyarlathotep
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The 360 and PS3 still have significant current and upcoming software support as shown by 6/10 of this months top selling software titles being available for them.
EDIT:
more utterly baffling lack of self-awareness below
PoweredByHentai
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Shitposting, eh? As compared to your wonderfully insightful comments below? /sarcasm
Scientificreason
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lol Oh wow, burn.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
I'm positive Ouya sold the most out of the above.
It was number 1 on Amazon Canada.
I believe Amazon Chartz
CosmicQueso
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Might as well release them if you spent the money to make them. Plus, you have (like I mentioned) LATAM and EMEA that will still buy the old gen games. But not the US market (which is what I'm referring to when it comes to old gen being basically closed at this point).
Talking to me?
Ahh... yeah this behavior is weird, unnecessary and dumb and really needs to stop.
MrNyarlathotep
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No, not at all - the Posters proving ghst wrong on his stance people would rather attack the poster than the argument they present by attacking the poster.
I agree that there are very good reasons why cross platform is definitely still a thing, I was disagreeing that asking about 360 or Ps3 numbers is akin to asking about the DC, because the 360 and PS3 are still relatively viable platforms from a publisher perspective, whereas the DC clearly is not.
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The following quote was what ran through my mind when I saw his post targeting me.
But I digress.
Going back on topic, did we ever get numbers for the various Amiibo flavors? That seemed to be something that I don't think I've seen in any of the previous NPD threads.
Why bother commenting if you're going to be so rude like that?
You could've just disagreed with me in a more mature/nicer way like biglittleps had done.
serversurfer
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Dunno, but if it's "just as bad" as Driveclub and Knack, I should probably check it out.
Sangetsu-II
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The Order is $30 at GameStop for PRO members right now, I'm tempted myself to buy it but don't know if I should wait till a $20 drop. $30 does seem good for a 8 hour campaign, just like the good old days only more beautiful....Dammit I don't know what to do, help me out Gaf, should I buy it?
Welfare
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You'll be one of the 1,886 people that buy it in April.
I don't know about you, but I'm waiting for it to hit $20 @ Best Buy before I pick it up. If it's already $30 by now, chances are it'll hit $20 soon enough.
KillerMan91
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Do we have any data about yearly sales of NES and SNES? This year could be lowest yearly sales for Nintendos home consoles since the launch of N64 (Wii dies off completely and I just don't see how WiiU will be able to keep up with its last years pace without Mario kart and Smash.)
Unfortunately I don't. Maybe someone else does.
NES: 34 million units sold in
SNES: 23.35 million units sold in.
(Includes North America, not just USA)
CosmicQueso
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So, could be wrong, but I believe consistent NPD tracking didn't start up until 1995. There might have been other sources before then (I imagine there must have been?) but I've never seen an NPD data point earlier than PS1 1995.
Primethius
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I'm going through older NPD threads and compiling some data for personal reference. I'm guessing there isn't a more concrete database of info anywhere right?
ZhugeEX, those graphs paint an interesting picture. What's the general consensus (or even just your opinion) on what year a console's sales will peak, especially in regards to PS4/X1?
ZhugeEX, those graphs paint an interesting picture. What's the general consensus (or even just your opinion) on what year a console's sales will peak, especially in regards to PS4/X1?
Just be aware that the NPD Group made adjustments to numbers regularly. So some older numbers may be incorrect.
Personally I believe that we won't see PS2 or Wii like peaks on any console this gen. In fact I'm only going with 6 million+ this year for PS4 which is under PS1/PS2 peak years. As to 2016 and beyond I'm not entirely sure but its highly likely that sell through could be higher than 2015, It's very difficult to say what will happen though.
For reference here is my WORLDWIDE 5 year forecast for the generation as a whole.
You can apply a rough estimate of ~60% for PS4, 30% for X1 and ~10% for Wii U. Margin for error, give or take 5%.
Primethius
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Just be aware that the NPD made adjustments to numbers regularly. So some older numbers may be incorrect.
Personally I believe that we won't see PS2 or Wii like peaks on any console this gen. In fact I'm only going with 6 million+ this year for PS4 which is under PS1/PS2 peak years. As to 2016 and beyond I'm not entirely sure but its likely that sell through could be higher than 2015, It's very difficult to say what will happen though.
For reference here is my WORLDWIDE 5 year forecast for the generation as a whole.
You can apply a rough estimate of ~60% for PS4, 30% for X1 and ~10% for Wii U. Margin for error, give or take 5%.
Interesting stuff. Thanks for the heads-up on the NPD data changes.
Is your 6+ million prediction for PS4 anticipating a price drop?
Welfare
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vgsales has data on PS360 and Wii up to 2011.
Yes it is. Sometime around Q3/Q4 2015.
At least a $50 price drop or some sort of amazing holiday bundle of sorts.
Primethius
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I see. I appreciate the answers (and all the lovely graphs you post).
Thanks, good to know that's reliable.
You forgot the Dreamcast again
Interesting forecast. I'd like to think it'll be closer to Gen 6, but I guess we'll see. Hard to say how long this gen will last, and what kind of price point they'll be able to get to. I'd think the 360 could have outsold the PS2 in the US if they had been able to get as cheap as the PS2 did, but I guess that's a lot harder when you have things like built in storage and such.
You forgot the Dreamcast again
Interesting forecast. I'd like to think it'll be closer to Gen 6, but I guess we'll see. Hard to say how long this gen will last, and what kind of price point they'll be able to get to. I'd think the 360 could have outsold the PS2 in the US if they had been able to get as cheap as the PS2 did, but I guess that's a lot harder when you have things like built in storage and such.
Even if i added the dreamcast you wouldn't notice a difference on that graph
Yeh the X360 really was on track to match and even exceed the PS2 but then next gen happened and since then all last gen consoles have seen sales decline drastically. Obvious why that has happened.
The forecast I have is based on historical data, financial reports, market research reports and estimates from myself and so far I've been right, going back to 2014 I was one of the crazy ones who estimated that PS4 would be over 19m and X1 would be 11.7m.
Whilst others like Wedbush estimated that PS4 would only get to 16.5m.
slavesnyder
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This is a safe bet. Will we ever see numbers like this again? I don't think so. PS2 and Wii were before the boom of smartphones, tablets and Steam as it is now. Gaming has changed a lot. The biggest surprise is that console gaming still seems to be healthy.
2016 will be higher if they lower the price (they will), add some interesting new stuff (VR & AR) and attack the casuals (rock band, buzz, whatever).
Sounds shocking first, but with X1 on par in the US and everywhere else struggling or dead this seems absolutely realistic. Things can change of course with a must-have for x1 (but I can not imagine what that could be), also, Nintendo is the dark horse. If they come out with a new console with a really new and cool feature this could generate some trouble. Nobody expected the Wii, and if someone can do a freak move, in positive or negative way, it's Nintendo.
Bonus Question: Will the steam machine count as PC or console?
This is really well done and very informative. Thank you.
http://www.amazon.ca/gp/bestsellers/2015-03/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsar#1
Here's Amazon Canada charts for March 2015. Ouya is not #1. It didn't even chart.
Welfare
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The king is dead.
Driveclub is on an entirely different level than either of those.
Welfare
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That is where you both are wrong.
Ouya #1 as usual:
The king! It lives!
That's a picture. It means nothing.That is where you both are wrong.
Ouya #1 as usual:
I'm a photoshop expert and I can tell you that picture is 100% real.
Ouya is the king.
Thanks for the kind words.
Yup, I do expect 2016 to be higher, it's just a case of "how much" higher.
Of course my forecast can change and I expect it to do so. But for now I'm settling on 150m ish by end of 2019.
KillerMan91
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footfunghi
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Moving the subject on.
i thought ps4 sold twice as much as the x1 in the U.S. That looks like that it only sold a few hundred thousands more. i guess i had the wrong idea
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
So many doubters.
Best-Sellers 2014 - Ouya Numero Uno
http://www.amazon.ca/gp/bestsellers/2014/videogames/ref=zg_bsar_cal_mo
Long live The Ouya. His reign will continue.
i thought ps4 sold twice as much as the x1 in the U.S. That looks like that it only sold a few hundred thousands more. i guess i had the wrong idea
You're thinking of worldwide where it is very close to 2:1 ratio.
In the USA it's close but the PS4 is still leading by over 700,000 units.
Sales are very very close in the USA. It takes just one really good holiday for Microsoft to take the lead.i thought ps4 sold twice as much as the x1 in the U.S. That looks like that it only sold a few hundred thousands more. i guess i had the wrong idea
He gets banned quite frequently, imagine he must be on his final warning for perm or something close to it.
serversurfer
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Zhuge, the PS2 dropped from $300 to $200 in May 2002. I see that their 2002 sales were about a third higher than their 2001 sales in the US, but do you happen to have the data comparing the 12 months before the cut to the 12 months after? Just wondering how the cut affected their sales trajectory. U.S. and WW, if it's not too much trouble. <3
Only if Sony stop PS4 sales in US in that period.
A holiday season that closes a (what I'm assuming will be) between 800,000 and 1,000,000 gap isn't just really good, it would be unprecedented.
ZhugeEX, can you produce "January aligned" graphs of PS4 and Xbox One monthly sales?
What I'm thinking is: How was the gap in January 2014 versus January 2015, and how it has evolved over the past couple of months compared to 2014. Does that make sense?
Not right now for worldwide buddy. I got to sleep and work in the morning (UK time). Will probably get this done tomorrow evening If i get time. I don't have all the numbers to hand right now.
For US here ya go-
what, you haven't heard?
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*shrugs*
They're kind of persistent though, like cockroaches.
I've made it a habit to make liberal use of the forum's "ignore user" feature.
Worldwide or US/North America?
Do you mean something like this? That shows the cumulative gap over time.
Highest the gap has been - 1.13m (Oct 2014)
Lowest the gap has been - 0.19m (Dec 2013)
(Numbers rounded)
Theoretically speaking the gap could be over 1.25m come October should PS4 continue to outsell X1 in the same way it did during 2014. Of course I'm expecting October (Halo) and the holiday season to hinder further growth for PS4.
Coulomb_Barrier
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I can't understand this assumption that BF: Hardline has 'sold well' any more than people's assumption that it bombed hard.
Sure, it's got good first month sales but of course it is going to sell well initially because of the BF name. I expect it is going to sell considerably less than BF3/4.
Sure, it's got good first month sales but of course it is going to sell well initially because of the BF name. I expect it is going to sell considerably less than BF3/4.