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Official Xbox 360 Madden '11 Online Dynasty Thread: Ball & Juice edition
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Wellington
BAAAALLLINNN'
?Smokey said:
FrenchMovieTheme
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what do you guys think about me coming up with a list of 1 offensive player and 1 defensive player that are basically untradeable per team, and then allowing trades beyond that?
i've rejected a few trades because i'm trying to keep away from these ridiculous fantasy teams being developed and shit that would never be considered in real life from happening. but i don't want to completely ruin the fun of trades.
give me some input bro's. am i being too tough on these trades? or do you like the lack of big trades?
i've rejected a few trades because i'm trying to keep away from these ridiculous fantasy teams being developed and shit that would never be considered in real life from happening. but i don't want to completely ruin the fun of trades.
give me some input bro's. am i being too tough on these trades? or do you like the lack of big trades?
I'm not pissed, so don't take this as a rant or anything, but I honestly don't see how I am supposed to make the Dolphins a better team if I can't trade pieces that I find superfluous. I play possession football and rely heavily on my pretty solid defense to keep me in games. Brandon Marshall is nice and all, but he doesn't fit my system and isn't anywhere near as helpful to me as a good free safety and an extra second round pick.
A rebuilding project is no fun if you steal my tools.
I generally target Marshall 4 or 5 times a game. When I play the 49er's be ready for streak-n-lob city.
A rebuilding project is no fun if you steal my tools.
I generally target Marshall 4 or 5 times a game. When I play the 49er's be ready for streak-n-lob city.
How can we know if you're being tough? We don't know what's going on back stage. The only one I remember was the Favre/Palmer trade. These tend to happen when the owners have no loyalty to those teams. Obviously, Palmer is worth more than 1 year Favre, even though he's rated higher, but someone who doesn't give a shit about the Bungles doesn't care.
I feel that a bunch of guys are playing like it's only going to be one season and they don't understand that players progress and getting younger is a good thing.
IMO, I don't think this year should be huge for trades (huge mid-season trades are incredibly rare), but I'm not against them in the off-season. On the other hand, we might not get to the off-season 'till April WHEN WE VANCIN' DAMNIT!
[edit]Eznark: isn't Marshall a possession receiver?
I feel that a bunch of guys are playing like it's only going to be one season and they don't understand that players progress and getting younger is a good thing.
IMO, I don't think this year should be huge for trades (huge mid-season trades are incredibly rare), but I'm not against them in the off-season. On the other hand, we might not get to the off-season 'till April WHEN WE VANCIN' DAMNIT!
[edit]Eznark: isn't Marshall a possession receiver?
DCX
DCX
Love the idea. We did something similar in 2k with the league. I think you, the knights, should vote on who will be the un-tradables should be.FrenchMovieTheme said:
I'd vote not on rating becuase that isn't the true value of a player. Like for example, Atlanta's should be Ryan and Lofton. Ryan may not be the highest rated but the most valuable player on offense for my team same goes for Lofton, he is the anchor.
DCX
Marshall
4th Round
for
DeCoud
Jenkins
2nd Round
If I'm stuck with him that's fine but that makes draft position much, much, much more important to me as it's the only way to build a team. I'd never throw games on purpose but incentives have a powerful influence on the subconscious.
4th Round
for
DeCoud
Jenkins
2nd Round
I use the Dolphins default offense which essentially turns him into a deep threat only. Great hands, but not useful. I've never used wide outs extensively and the first thing I do in any franchise is dump 90+ receivers.
If I'm stuck with him that's fine but that makes draft position much, much, much more important to me as it's the only way to build a team. I'd never throw games on purpose but incentives have a powerful influence on the subconscious.
DCX
DCX
I understand how you feel. I feel the same way. Although i will say in a system where one on o and d get deemed untouchable, Marshall might be that man. Unless they powers that be let us assign " franchise tags on our own based on our own feeling of who is valuable to us.eznark said:
DCX
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
Rorschach said:
usually if a trade is so ridiculously one sided or out there i will just give a no on it. if it's something borderline thats when i bring it up.
i'm just trying to prevent the ridiculousness of last season from happening: MJD on the colts, Djax on the broncos, michael turner on the chargers, etc etc etc etc.
if a guy is a franchise type player the odds are i wouldn't approve the trade. now if you wanted to trade brandon marshall for nnamdi or something would i deny it? i don't know if i would deny it straight up, but i would bring it up and see what people thought of it and make a decision.
if i had it exclusively my way i would ban in-season trading and just go with off-season, reasonable trades. you build through the draft! and there are plenty of good players there to help you immediately!
You know what, I was trying to spare your players feelings, trying to be a nice guy but fuck Huff. The real reason I didn't want anything to do with him is because his Old Spice Swagger rating just is not up to par.Rorschach said:He's very aware and he does improve because of his progression rating.
I know this is probably going to come off as sour grapes, but I think if we're picking and choosing which trades are "acceptable" based on wholly arbitrary standards then all trading should be off. We all value players differently because we all play different styles and have different strengths (or lesser weaknesses, in Bob's case). We want realistic football, let me be Josh McDaniels damn it! I must purge the locker room cancers!
I guess I could just cut him
FrenchMovieTheme
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LT was cut not traded.
and i'm much more apt to allow trades for picks (as is the case with mcnabb and cutler) over superstar for superstar trades (the last i can remember was portis for bailey in like 2003 or whenever)
and i'm much more apt to allow trades for picks (as is the case with mcnabb and cutler) over superstar for superstar trades (the last i can remember was portis for bailey in like 2003 or whenever)
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Member
LiveWire said:
but a lot of the trades being proposed would never happen simply due to the salary issues. that isn't an issue here. if salary wasn't an issue, LT would still be a charger. if jpout wasn't a pouter, he would still be a bronco. if brandon marshall wasn't a whiny bitch he would've never been traded.
and on and on. i put restrictions on trades because of all the complaints last year. it's one thing if someone is fucking themselves offer with a bad trade, but you are making another team stronger as well. how would you guys feel if i let rors trade ronlondo mcclain for tom brady, or calvin johnson, or alex smith. you wouldn't like it that a guy who is already a great player is getting one over on another team and basically the rest of the league
in other news, what is going on with these unplayed games? are you guys PM-ing each other or messaging on XBL? if you aren't getting a response in the thread you might need to take that extra step!
I get what you're saying FMT, but you're already vetoing trades on a willy-nilly basis so vetoing trades that are absurd will be vetoed. I explained why I want to trade Marshall and that I feel it will make my chances to win games stronger. For what you consider borderline trades I think a discussion is fair. Killing it without finding out the reasons for the trade show the real reason for the quick veto; it hurts your chances to win the league. Oliver Stone is on the phone right now, Andy Dick is in contracts talks to play you.
FrenchMovieTheme
Member
eznark said:
well, propose a trade to me involving marshall and i will have it reviewed between the following people:
myself
cb3
dmczaf
rors
wellington
luke
bigAT
majority will go on a trade, even if i don't agree with it. that's how i've done it since last season, so that's how i'll do it again i guess, no matter how ridiculous i might personally consider a trade!
No one but Peyton Manning.DCX said:
This isn't my plan. :lol My plan was having a cap to avoid all these things and having cap penalties on trades. Then, approval of stuff wouldn't even be necessary. You'd end up screwing yourself out of trade possibilities or even signing rookies if you messed up.