A coordinated double McCree team doesn't need to stay on the flanks to be effective, especially if they've got Lucio and a tank of their own. And it's not so much that it's impossible to fight against as it's just been obnoxiously pervasive. Around half of my matches have been running double McCree so far today. Sometimes I just wanna play as Roadhog or something and not worry about being completely melted in seconds, y'know?
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A coordinated double McCree team doesn't need to stay on the flanks to be effective, especially if they've got Lucio and a tank of their own. And it's not so much that it's impossible to fight against as it's just been obnoxiously pervasive. Around half of my matches have been running double McCree so far today. Sometimes I just wanna play as Roadhog or something and not worry about being completely melted in seconds, y'know?
report them first at least
SplitYourInfinities
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My overall W/L ratio is 55.08% and I have a 47.69% (31/34) with D.VA and a 75% (15/5) with Symmetra, my most used characters.
Shake Appeal
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I wonder if the number of people running McCree spiked after Blizzard admitted he was too powerful in some respects?
But what being said here is that the server run at 60hz processing but the client only runs at 20hz receiving.
Client 60hz > Server 60hz > Client 20hz
Unless im misunderstanding his client/server talk.
Edit: https://youtu.be/H0zbpPCdhGk?t=2m12s
Winterblink
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Not sure if this has been posted yet, but... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pByJbGOPevo
spootime
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There is no way to "deal" with McCree, hes the best 1v1 character in the game and he does insane damage at medium range if you're good at aiming.
That's what I was looking for. Thunderbird and Raindancer completely threw me for a loop.
DBreakfast
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The dev who mentioned it indicated that the flashbang is unlikely to be nerfed (which makes sense, because then there would be nobody to keep Tracer in check). He implied that the problem Blizzard has with him currently is how effectively he melts tanks, not how well he kills squishier classes. It's understandable. He's simultaneously the class who stops flankers AND the class who kills tanks best AND functions really well as a mid range damage dealer. He's a jack of all trades, and a master of all of them too. There's a reason he has over 100% usage rates in competitive play.
My guess is that there will be a cooldown to FtH, so FtH -> roll -> FtH won't be viable anymore, but who knows what the actual change will be.
Hanzo. Hanzo is the best character for countering Torbjorn spam nonsense. He melts turrets really fast, spots them for your team with quick wall hacks, and his ult charges fast and breaks things up. Widowmaker, Junkrat, and Pharah are all also pretty good sentry counters, but for multiple Torbjorns, Hanzo's the best.
PsychoSoldier
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I'm at like a 44% win rate, but like a 72% win rate with Toblerone due to how much easier defense is at my skill level.
The 16% win rate with Winston and 36% win rate with Reinhardt is a good example of that.
The 16% win rate with Winston and 36% win rate with Reinhardt is a good example of that.
herbchamberz
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Alright ...I'm level 10. Still learning and figuring out this game, but I'm ready to start playing with people that actually know what they're doing.
If ya'll can handle a rookie on your team, how do I get in on that sweet GAF user list?
If ya'll can handle a rookie on your team, how do I get in on that sweet GAF user list?
spootime
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I would prefer they nerf fan in general and maybe slightly buff his regular attack - make him harder to use.
PsychoSoldier
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The google doc is in the OP, quote it to see the link and add yourself.
i don't think blizzard will do anything about people who type "EZ LOL NOOBS" in allchat
i do report people with racist handles tho
Shake Appeal
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His regular attack doesn't need buffing!
Stone Ocean
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It's actually pretty legit. You're supppsed to sit on the payload though so I hope you have a Reinhardt with you
Not that I'm amazing or anything at the game, but Hanzo pisses me off more than any other character with his spam arrows and their hitboxes.
I can appreciate the McCree frustration and understand Widowmaker's issues conceptually (haven't run into a dominant Widowmaker), but man the tree trunks Hanzo fires frustrate the hell out of me.
I can appreciate the McCree frustration and understand Widowmaker's issues conceptually (haven't run into a dominant Widowmaker), but man the tree trunks Hanzo fires frustrate the hell out of me.
TheLetdown
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Any of the characters that can make it should take the left flank route over the water. Then just do the peak-and-poke to down them. Widowmaker or Tracer, especially.
Beyond that, a decent healer/Reinhardt with a Hanzo behind the shield. He absolutely annihilates turrets.
Carry me bro ;_;
herbchamberz
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Oh word, didn't realize I could edit that. Thanks.
what if they nerfed fan and buffed high noon
Ethereal Ardor
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Wondering if I should sell my Soldier 76 Statue for some loot box moneys...
I always like soldier 76 for killing turrets. Rockets, super accurate gun even at range, and self healing for any shots he does take. I use pharah sometimes too, just pop around a corner, shoot a rocket, run back. Has the added benefit of potentially killing the torbjorn if he's standing next to his turret.
spootime
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I find widowmaker is really good against turrets. Thats the only hero I play though
Thanks, I'll try those characters next time!
PsychoSoldier
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People have offered other options but if they're grouped then you could always use a D.Va ult.
I've been pretty blessed in the sniper department. I can probably count the number of ridiculous snipes I've been killed by on one hand. By and large, most of the Hanzos and Widowmakers I've seen have been just awful. Playing on console is probably helping mitigate the damage and salt though
As much as I'd hate to tell people how to play, because I love how chill and casual this game is for the most part, I do really wish people would do the objectives more and use the full range of their abilities more.
Perhaps Blizzard could put in some prompts to remind people to get on the objective, or to make use of their support abilities (reminding Symmetras to give people shields, Torbs to give people armour, Hanzos to use their recon arrow etc)
Perhaps Blizzard could put in some prompts to remind people to get on the objective, or to make use of their support abilities (reminding Symmetras to give people shields, Torbs to give people armour, Hanzos to use their recon arrow etc)
Joyful
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tbh anyone with over 250~ ping should be kicked automatically
no idea why you can have any ping in overwatch
DrGonzo615
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So, does the game give you credit for the kill if you are the one who does the most damage? Ive already have had several instances where it looks like I didnt quite finish off an opponent only to have them duck behind a wall and then die giving me credit for the kill.
EDIT: now I see that this must be a lag issue. Thats pretty bad.
EDIT: now I see that this must be a lag issue. Thats pretty bad.
Stone Ocean
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Shake Appeal
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Where are they? Go around the side path with Pharah, Tracer, Reaper, etc. They all do pretty well against turrets.
Ping limit is needed to some degree but if it turns out like Destiny lag switching will be a real thing which might make it even worse once Ranked comes out.
Ginger Hail
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You get credit for helping with any elimination, but there's also a separate "killing blow" stat that is tracked as well.
Everyone that assists gets elimination credit. It isn't lag. You could do 1 damage and get an elimination. Check your final blows in statistics section (or masteroverwatch.com) if you want to see the people you've finished off.
Playing solo-q'd I'm sitting at 49.1% globally WR. 138 W 143 L
58% on McCree and 54% on 76 and 42% on widow since I always get singled out by like half the team as WM.
Wish I could play others, but people already get toxic at me even if I'm top performing on the team/lobby, don't even wanna know what It' be like if I swapped to others to try em out
58% on McCree and 54% on 76 and 42% on widow since I always get singled out by like half the team as WM.
Wish I could play others, but people already get toxic at me even if I'm top performing on the team/lobby, don't even wanna know what It' be like if I swapped to others to try em out
Shake Appeal
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It's not lag.
The number after the elimination is the percentage of your responsibility for the kill, more or less. If you do 149HP damage to Tracer and she blinks away into a Symmetra turret, you will get ELIMINATED TRACER 99 and Symmetra will get ELIMINATED TRACER 1. Multiple people can get the same "elimination" in this way.
doesn't tracer get autotracked by the turrets? If there's more than one/support that seems risky
Reinhardt push with teammates like Farah and Soldier to clear the turrets.
Hop on discord and hop in when I ask for a group bro, I've been on every night
Playing solo-q'd I'm sitting at 49.1% globally WR. 138 W 143 L
58% on McCree and 54% on 76 and 42% on widow since I always get singled out by like half the team as WM.
Wish I could play others, but people already get toxic at me even if I'm top performing on the team/lobby, don't even wanna know what It' be like if I swapped to others to try em out
Eh, fuck 'em. Play the game to have fun man. If you want to try other characters go for it.
Shake Appeal
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Everyone is tracked, but you can peek turrets pretty well with Pharah/Hanzo. Again, it depends on placement. If they're set up in the shed by the point, for instance, Pharah or Junkrat are probably your best bet to clear them out with splash damage. Both can use the side path.
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