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Jebusman

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Fractology said:
Goddamn, I haven't checked into this thread since a few days after release and now that I have I can see the venom is beginning to flow through it's veins. I'm starting to get a little worried about this games long-term community.
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Did you really not expect that to happen?

That it was just going to be all sunshine and rainbows forever?

The honeymoon period is over. We're now entering square into "Fuck this fucking shit character fuck this fuck you" period. Every game is going to have that when it's team based, competitive gameplay.
 
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jacobs34

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Yesterday I played a game in which two Mercys followed each other around the map, one healing the other while she fired her pistol. I've now seen everything.
 
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Tabby

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Jebusman said:
Did you really not expect that to happen?

That it was just going to be all sunshine and rainbows forever?

The honeymoon period is over. We're now entering square into "Fuck this fucking shit character fuck this fuck you" period.
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I already had that period back in beta.
 
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Sir Abacus

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Kyoufu said:
Not harsh enough. McCree's flashbang + fan the hammer is easily the best one-two in the game. It's crazy powerful.
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It serves as a hard counter to champs with excessive movement. Tracer, Genji, and Reaper are back line disrupters but McCree can sit on flanks and stop an incoming enemy. He needs to be a duelist because he's next to useless in a 6v6 team fight.
 
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nOoblet16

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Jebusman said:
Is McCree the new Pyro (in terms of player perception not literal playstyle).

The character everyone hates on because he's "too easy" to play and isn't as "fair" and "complicated" as the character "they" choose to play?

Where people get stuck on some weird imaginary rules of honor where their character is harder to play and thus more honorable?
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Nope...because he is actually powerful unlike Pyro.

The character you are talking about is Mei.
 
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Numb

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ExVicis said:
If people don't use my shield for cover to do stuff, help me push or don't heal me when I'm on the objective I stop playing Reinhardt. I love playing as him,don't get me wrong but if you're not cooperating with him I'll just go play Soldier and not care about you either.
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Truth
i do enjoy escorting with the shield but how are people not gonna be in that one small moving object and run around like chickens?
cmon now
 
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borghe

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Fractology said:
Goddamn, I haven't checked into this thread since a few days after release and now that I have I can see the venom is beginning to flow through it's veins. I'm starting to get a little worried about this games long-term community.
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nah, if anything it speaks to the long term viability. Pretty much every character has received a "fuck them" in this thread (except mercy and lucio) equally. mccree a little more than most, but only a little which blizz has acknowledged.

beyond that, balance seems to be really fucking solid.

we just need new maps and game modes stat.

ExVicis said:
You play Winston? You're honestly worst than Hitler.
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lol. it depends. winston isn't any more situational that zarya or d.va.
 
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Jebusman

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nOoblet16 said:
Nope...because he is actually powerful unlike Pyro.

The character you are talking about is Mei.
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I dunno, that short time when we had the original Pyro airblast + axtinguisher pretty much made him the easiest easy mode character around. Was fun times.

But yeah Mei definitely fits the bill, also literally in gameplay style. Nothing makes someone angrier than W+M1 gameplay beating them.
 
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meanspartan

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I play Lucio/Junkrat/Roadhog

I REALLY don't understand the claimed issues with McCree, he is one of the characters I die to the least. Sure his stun/fan is powerful, but playing with a good team it's totally controllable. Not to mention he has to be relatively close to use it, meaning your team can kill him on his reload even if he takes down someone. As Lucio, I totally just shove him around too lol. I think if they weaken his burst too much, there is no reason to use him over other midrange classes.

I just don't want Blizzard to cave too quickly to demands for nerfs...that's a dangerous road to go down. Let the game develop, have at least a week or two of ranked play stats to look at.
 
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Baliis

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Sir Abacus said:
It serves as a hard counter to champs with excessive movement. Tracer, Genji, and Reaper are back line disrupters but McCree can sit on flanks and stop an incoming enemy. He needs to be a duelist because he's next to useless in a 6v6 team fight.
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It serves as a counter to everything really, there isn't a non tank character that can survive a full fan, and even for the tanks you can just roll for a second fan and kill them anyways. Useless in a 6v6? Clearly you've never stunned a Reinhardt out of his shield and dropped him to open up the fight or gibbed their mercy plus another character sometimes in like a second.
 
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Diablohead

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D.va's handgun is so good I kind of wish I could get out of the mech at will to use it.

Both for long range pokes and for killing a full health genji in a 1 v 1 battle, it felt good.
 
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super-famicom

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Jebusman said:
Is McCree the new Pyro (in terms of player perception not literal playstyle).

The character everyone hates on because he's "too easy" to play and isn't as "fair" and "complicated" as the character "they" choose to play?

Where people get stuck on some weird imaginary rules of honor where their character is harder to play and thus more honorable?
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Kyoufu said:
Not harsh enough. McCree's flashbang + fan the hammer is easily the best one-two in the game. It's crazy powerful.
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The bolded is true, which is why there is a lot of salt. I wouldn't say it's super broken, though. With coordination, a team can counter him.
 
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fuzzyset

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What's the deal with add-ons or overlays for this game? Are the allowed? Being developed? Enemy cooldown meters are crucial for good arena WoW play. It'd be a nice to have here too.
 
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Kiro

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While I'm not really achievement hunting, once I get both achievements for a character I don't often play them anymore. Anyone else the same?
 
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borghe

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Kyoufu said:
Not harsh enough. McCree's flashbang + fan the hammer is easily the best one-two in the game. It's crazy powerful.
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arguably Earthshatter plus charge (in a clump) followed by a fire strike. could get a team kill without unreasonable odds.
 
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Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
so level 55 my legendaries were:

Pirate Tor (cool)
Currency (err cool I guess)

then I bought Zarya red goth with gold

Soldier 75 black ops (ugh worst skin in the game)
Zarya red goth (which was a dupe so 200g)

at least I got currency for another again. Gonna pick up Okami Hanzo
 
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Exile20

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meanspartan said:
I play Lucio/Junkrat/Roadhog

I REALLY don't understand the claimed issues with McCree, he is one of the characters I die to the least. Sure his stun/fan is powerful, but playing with a good team it's totally controllable. Not to mention he has to be relatively close to use it, meaning your team can kill him on his reload even if he takes down someone. As Lucio, I totally just shove him around too lol. I think if they weaken his burst too much, there is no reason to use him over other midrange classes.

I just don't want Blizzard to cave too quickly to demands for nerfs...that's a dangerous road to go down. Let the game develop, have at least a week or two of ranked play stats to look at.
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You hear that Cloud 9/Luminosity/United/etc

smh
 
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Kyoufu

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borghe said:
arguably Earthshatter plus charge (in a clump) followed by a fire strike. could get a team kill without unreasonable odds.
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The thing is, Earthshatter is an ult. Flashbang is a small cooldown heh. FAN THE HAMMER DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A COOLDOWN. lol
 
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Yawnny

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Why the fuck can't I play Winston?
Come to think of it, I don't think if I've even faced a Winston that seemed like he was doing anything useful.

His main fire is shit, his ultimate is weak, his landing-on-people-after-jumping is weak.

I get that he's supposed to 'disrupt' the opposing team and piss them off a bit.. but he seems woefully underpowered, with the only gold medal you're going to get being 'Objective Time' at best, and god bless you if you manage to get a POTG.

I'll keep playing him though because I'm intrigued at how much he seems like ass.. he has to be useful.. right?
 
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Omega Kirby

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Are people ok with Hanzo's hitbox? Would he be shit without it being that big? You'd think you could kill him with Winston easy, but he can never miss you lol
 
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Exile20

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Yawnny said:
Why the fuck can't I play Winston?
Come to think of it, I don't think if I've even faced a Winston that seemed like he was doing anything useful.

His main fire is shit, his ultimate is weak, his landing-on-people-after-jumping is weak.

I get that he's supposed to 'disrupt' the opposing team and piss them off a bit.. but he seems woefully underpowered, with the only gold medal you're going to get being 'Objective Time' at best, and god bless you if you manage to get a POTG.

I'll keep playing him though because I'm intrigued at how much he seems like ass.. he has to be useful.. right?
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Winston is a get in and out hero. You are not going to take down a lot of heroes but the squishy ones are easy. I played a game where i focused solely on mercy. I jumped in killed her and jumped out.

Bastion is a problem for him tho. He destroys his barrier in a second and even his ult, Bastion kills him easily.

If a team is hunkered down like on annubis then switch. Winston thrives on singling out heroes. When the whole team is concentrated then you will die.
 
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Owzers

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Kor of Memory said:
I see them quite a bit. Especially Mercy lately, but I've seen plenty of Lucio, and a handful of Symmetra.

I've gotten a PotG as Symmetra about 3 times so far.

I don't think I've ever seen a Zenyatta.



And I doubt everytime someone gets killed through a corner wall that they're checking to see which of these is the case. It's easier to just bitch about the new buzz word for the game than to actually investigate into it.
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It's almost always an ultimate so far for what I've seen, d,va, reaper, junk rat, hanzo, or mccree.
 
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fuzzyset

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Yawnny said:
Why the fuck can't I play Winston?
Come to think of it, I don't think if I've even faced a Winston that seemed like he was doing anything useful.

His main fire is shit, his ultimate is weak, his landing-on-people-after-jumping is weak.

I get that he's supposed to 'disrupt' the opposing team and piss them off a bit.. but he seems woefully underpowered, with the only gold medal you're going to get being 'Objective Time' at best, and god bless you if you manage to get a POTG.

I'll keep playing him though because I'm intrigued at how much he seems like ass.. he has to be useful.. right?
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A friend I play with likes him. I really enjoy and notice the contribution when he's on our team. He's received a few POTGs. Ironically, I really am never that scared of Winston myself when I play against him. It's always "oh Winston is here, let me zip in with Tracer and take him down".
 
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Baliis

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Yawnny said:
Why the fuck can't I play Winston?
Come to think of it, I don't think if I've even faced a Winston that seemed like he was doing anything useful.

His main fire is shit, his ultimate is weak, his landing-on-people-after-jumping is weak.

I get that he's supposed to 'disrupt' the opposing team and piss them off a bit.. but he seems woefully underpowered, with the only gold medal you're going to get being 'Objective Time' at best, and god bless you if you manage to get a POTG.

I'll keep playing him though because I'm intrigued at how much he seems like ass.. he has to be useful.. right?
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He has a lot of mobility, high hp, and a shield, what's not to get. His damage isn't super high, but he'll still kill anyone with like 200 or less hp (a lot of chars) fairly quickly. The team either has to turn around and deal with you , turning their back on your team, or let you wreck havoc in their back lines or picking off their sniper. If you're just leaping in solo you'll just get killed, you need your team backing you up.

His ult doesn't usually land many kulls, but it full heals him and gives him 1000 hp and tons of knock back to completely disrupt a defense.
 
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gryvan

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So i guess blizzard is working hard against cheaters

http://kotaku.com/thousands-of-overwatch-players-have-already-been-banned-1780109893

man I really like this part

Meanwhile in China, Blizzard and partner NetEase have been swinging the banhammer like a Reinhardt surrounded by Tracers that have finally, mercifully been frozen by a Mei ult, thank the pluperfect heavens. Earlier today, they announced a 1572-person ban wave. Not only that, they revealed the username of everybody who’d been banned. Savage.
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Gilby

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mreddie said:
20 killstreak with D.Va

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My friends and I did a match with all Junkrats and then a match with all D.Vas. We completely destroyed them as D.Vas. Always had at least one shield covering us.

It felt so right.
 
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Quick Mustard

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Me and my friend played a few games last night on the PS4. We ended up in a game where the other 4 members were Lucio (typo) and my god, we absolutely destroyed anything that touched us.
Two of them healing and two of them with the speed boost and we won that game in record time whilst the other team didn't stand a chance, lol
 
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Rize_21

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Omega Kirby said:
Are people ok with Hanzo's hitbox? Would he be shit without it being that big? You'd think you could kill him with Winston easy, but he can never miss you lol
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I did something really but really really dumb with him earlier, learned via Muselk, shoot arrows at the sky before the spawn doors open and watch some enemies die as the arrows fall.
Hanzo's hitboxes have to change, he'll still be a cool character with it a bit fixed, not much! just a bit.
 
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Mupod

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No_Style said:
Can I get a list of characters that people SHOULD play as because it sounds like everyone is hated except Mercy.

I love playing Mercy!
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Bastion, Mei: generally accepted to only be played by human garbage
McCree, Widow, Lucio, Tracer: tryhard esports wannabe relying on OP character
Reaper: 12 years old
Genji: 9 years old
Soldier: COD player
Roadhog: LoL player
Mercy: can't actually play FPSes, probably desperate for attention
Winston: character designed so that very small children or people with no arms can enjoy Overwatch
Reinhardt: literally just hold down the right mouse button
Zarya: tumblr
Junkrat, Hanzo: wow randomly shoot everywhere and get kills so much skill
Torbjorn: game literally plays itself, turret is invincible
Zenyatta, Symmetra: wow why did you pick this character now we're going to lose fuck might as well leave
D-Va: don't care about the game, only their waifu
Pharah: high skill character, beautiful, only played by fine gentlemen
 
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fuzzyset

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Apathy said:
Not true, the reload is the cooldown for fan :D lol
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According to the OW wikia, there's an increased reload time on FTH (an extra 0.75 secs).

Quick Mustard said:
Me and my friend played a few games last night on the PS4. We ended up in a game where the other 4 members were Lucio (typo) and my god, we absolutely destroyed anything that touched us.
Two of them healing and two of them with the speed boost and we won that game in record time whilst the other team didn't stand a chance, lol
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FYI, someone posted a Mythbusters type vid earlier and stacked Lucios don't increase the healing (increases the coverage, obv). Double Mercy does heal twice as fast though.
 
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zonezeus

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Yawnny said:
Why the fuck can't I play Winston?
Come to think of it, I don't think if I've even faced a Winston that seemed like he was doing anything useful.

His main fire is shit, his ultimate is weak, his landing-on-people-after-jumping is weak.

I get that he's supposed to 'disrupt' the opposing team and piss them off a bit.. but he seems woefully underpowered, with the only gold medal you're going to get being 'Objective Time' at best, and god bless you if you manage to get a POTG.

I'll keep playing him though because I'm intrigued at how much he seems like ass.. he has to be useful.. right?
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Jump in as far behind their backs as possible. Smack fools with the tesla gun. Jump out as soon as the cooldown allows. Drop shield if you're taking too much damage than jump out as soon as the cooldown ends. Don't go for the kills, eliminations will come sooner or later (or not, that's not really your job). Prioritize two things: 1) you're own survival and 2) being the biggest asshole on the map. This is basic Winston, if/when it clicks you'll know where to go from there.
 
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