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Overwatch |OT2| A New Low in Unlocking and Microtransaction Systems
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HandsomeCharles
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Yes, Im aware of how this works. But even if we play by your numbers reducing disparity by 25-33% is a massive amount. It will help the player experience and it should be done. It's not like Blizzard is short on cash.
Probably like 10 or so games. I had it once and it took quiet awhile.
I actually think well used ults is better than potg where people just rapidly kill things. I get PotG as Tracer A LOT and its pretty boring unless it shows me playing mind games with enemies.
I'm 99% certain I got it in as Roadhog the other day but a Reinhardt obscured my view at the worst possible instant.
I guess if you can do it fast enough, but it goes to kill cam so quickly, and you rarely have the time anyways with the rest of their team firing at you.
I wandered into the Hanzo v Genji brawl last night and decided to try Genji for the first time in anything resembling a regular match (I had run around with him in training mode, but not a vs AI match or anything like that).
I managed to get the gold medals for kills, objective kills, and objective time, and then got POTG. I really hope it was everyone else on the team's first times as Genji too, lol.
Still, don't think I'll be touching Genji much in regular matches.
I managed to get the gold medals for kills, objective kills, and objective time, and then got POTG. I really hope it was everyone else on the team's first times as Genji too, lol.
Still, don't think I'll be touching Genji much in regular matches.
BrassDragon
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Pretty much anything like that where it's no-thinking or effort involved.
Bastion, Mcree, Torbjorn, Soldier 76
Kayo Police
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The games are so short that even if I'm in a rubbish team I just stick with it. I just don't care enough to bail to be honest.
I meant in the kill cam I thoughtr
I get a lot of POTG as Torb, for the exact reason that I always make a point of not staying near my turret so I can catch people in crossfires with my turret as they try and kill it. It really does wonders in Molten Core mode to be away from the turret doing work and just let it do its own thing.
KevMan1815
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More Meis need to care enough to cancel the ice wall immediately when they mess up positioning.
Thanks for confirming. I was too lazy to check, but I was wonder "I wonder if...", lol
Dead Prince
Banned
but is there an achievement for pushing a box to the other team's base though
It's definitely 76 ults. Literally no energy goes into those plays. The cursor doesn't even move because why would it? You can feel the lack of attention oozing off the screen.
Reaper POTGs are the worst by far.
deicide2673
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Trust me you don't need to leave a lot to initiate the penalty. I just spent the last 2+ hours on -75% trying to get rid of it. There should be a penalty but it is way too excessive. From now on my wife can wait to be picked up and I will never answer the phone whilst playing no matter how important it is lol.
TheAngryMonkey
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This is my thought. What you see on your screen is the most current thing. If you get "shot behind the wall" it's because you were out in the open long enough to get shot by someone and you were killed in the past. Given a perfect ping and infinite tick rate you'd still be dead, your view of it would just line up more with reality.
If clients are sending info at 60 ticks and every other client is doing a good job guessing what you're doing then it doesn't matter if you increase those values in terms of who shot who first. The only thing it's going to improve is the feeling of being *feeling* of being shot though cover. You're still dead no matter what.
Again, internet lag itself is the larger issue here. If that stream of 20 ticks is arriving 100ms late you're going to feel it. If those 20 ticks were arriving within 30 ms of the serving sending them I'm very hard pressed to believe you can actually tell in a meaningful way.
chrominance
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I think that message is more about not waiting for the "perfect" shot where you kill five enemies with your ult, and just going for it if you only hit two people or whatever. Which is actually pretty good advice for many ults, especially in casual play.
Edit: Since people love this guy's video without seemingly understanding what he's saying...
This is blazing-fast European Internet connecting to different game servers under near-ideal conditions. Note that the difference between Overwatch's "20 tick garbage" servers and CS:GO's "64 tick omg so pro" servers is, on average, 24ms (some of which is accounted for by his having a shorter ping to the server anyway). 24ms is not why Widowmaker shot you in cover, as much as you may want that to be so.
I agree with you, but quick note: if I read your comment correctly, you're comparing the High Bandwidth Overwatch number to CS:GO, which is actually comparing Overwatch's 60hz mode to CS:GO's 64hz tick rate. The comparison you actually want is the second Overwatch entry, between BETA and High Bandwidth; those are the 20hz servers. ~50ms difference in RTT is still smallish, but it's more noticeable for sure.
Mobius and pet octopus
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^I happen to agree with chrom. That 40-50ms difference is something noticeable, especially when things fall that close such that you're behind a wall but shot anyway. Maybe without that 50ms additional latency, you get behind cover more. The times you don't, you'll get shot before going around the wall more too and it won't feel like you died to latency.
Maybe he is just shooting at walls perhaps training his burst fire?
Maybe he is just shooting at walls perhaps training his burst fire?
Interfectum
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One thing I was thinking about for future Overwatch updates and potential controversy down the line. Kaplan promised future heroes and maps free. But what if they decide to create single player adventures (similar to Hearthstone)? What are the chances of them charging for that? I'm guessing pretty high.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
The number of times I've seen people
fall off the map using Reinhardt's charge on Ilios.
:lol
including myself
:lol
LonelyGreyWolf
Banned
Torbjörn walking from the spawn point back to his turret while "eliminations" pop up at the bottom of the screen are the most silly, lol. Torbjörn's POTG can be cool sometimes though. McCree can also be cool. Bastion, Soldier 76 and ESPECIALLY Hanzo are the most boring though. I think Hanzo has to be the most common POTG of them all. We get it, you used your ult. Seen it all a million times before.
If it's single player content, it will most likely be paid. Starcraft 2 missions and Hearthstone expansions all require money. I'm thinking all the MP stuff will stay free for balancing issues.
Felix Lighter
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If experience and level had anything to do with game play I'd agree that the punishment is harsh but it's only delaying free loot box drops, so it needs to be some significant amount of time to be any kind of deterrent. Maybe the number of quits needs to be adjusted but the punishment doesn't seem too bad considering it's not going to impact your play or any meaningful progression.
PayOffWizard
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Interfectum
Member
Gotta farm them loot boxes.
Kayo Police
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Every time I play Reinhardt I find that I always die at least once from a failed charge.
Giving up, but want that sweet XP bonus and no quitter penalty.
Kayo Police
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They essentially quitting on the team but don't want the penalty.
Seraphis Cain
bad gameplay lol
Hey, as long as I take someone else out with me, it was all worth it!
Mobius and pet octopus
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Report AFK players. Blizzard will gut punch them.
Kayo Police
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lol since there was a defense force for the cheaters there's probably one for the afk'ers.
"But my team sucks! I should be allowed to quit on them!" "I paid 40 bucks so I'm right!"
Which is weird because twice now I've been in a situation where everyone on a team except for a dva was dead and the game proclaimed team kill. The dva was on the point fighting us
yeehamuffins
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Heh, I did a charge on a Genji on Watchpoint Gibraltar and sent both of us careening off a cliff. Both of us just had to laugh about it in the chat. Suppose it could have been worse: I could have missed him and just fell off myself.
orthodoxy1095
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I got a new legendary last night!!!!!
For a character and skin that I dislike!!!
For a character and skin that I dislike!!!
Mobius and pet octopus
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Shake Appeal
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Good catch. I just want people to blame things on general latency, which sucks, and realize that tickrate is just one factor in the latency they experience.
Again, I would love if Blizzard went to 60Hz or higher. It'd be fantastic! But "20 tick lol" is not why people are getting shot in cover. At the point where you can notice a glaring disparity, the problem is bigger than the server's tickrate, and it's probably several things happening at once including the favor the shooter rules.
What? where?
I like that skin. I got the other skin
I want the goddess skin.
chrominance
Member
If I could trade you one of my legendaries for that skin, I probably would. I want a classy future-corporate Symmetra skin!
TheLetdown
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I think I read something where people were trying to pin it back on Blizzard, as if they were cheating out of some civic duty in the face of the tyranny of a long EULA/ToC.
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