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Overwatch |OT2| A New Low in Unlocking and Microtransaction Systems

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Raging Spaniard

If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
Weekend'ish project, trying to see if I can design an Overwatch hero ... and its been fucking difficult! My best effort so far is a Mongol Eagle Hunter, which I think could be a badass idea if modernized and with sufficient gameplay context.

For a while I was struggling with the whole "she has an eagle, how does that work in an FPS? Is the eagle visible, invincible, does it cover too much of the screen?" Anyways, my latest is yet another amuptee, lol, but basically her arm IS the eagle, which can attach and detach at any moment.

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As you can see, my dog is not particularly impressed, how dare he.
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
He has no recoil so do you mean weapon spread? You can control that by firing in bursts.

He was not firing in bursts you could see it on the kill cam. Like I said cant prove it of course. Everytime he killed me it looked like he had the ult up.
 

Blues1990

Member
Theres 21 characters with 4 legendary skins each, you are level 28 so thats 28 boxes plus 24 you bought makea 52, most of us get what... 2 legendaries out of 52 boxes? 3? Why are you surprised you hadn't gotten one for the specific hero you want? Hell you just got super lucky most would argue

I'm still sore when I got nothing when one of my friends went to go and purchase 50 loot crates for me as an early B-Day present.
 

Papercuts

fired zero bullets in the orphanage.
I was originally against the idea of hero limits, but seeing as what a clusterfuck it's making of balance and that it's only ever used to abuse double Winston and double McCree, I'd really rather have it on.

Overwatch is gonna be in a weird spot going forward, I think. Even if competitive ends up banning multiple heroes, the game itself still lets you select it and is going to be balanced around having them(which is why Winston's shield got nerfed originally). It's going to be hard for Blizzard to tweak everything in a way that satisfies everyone.
 

Hazaro

relies on auto-aim
Pharah will be picked in single only so that sounds good.
He was not firing in bursts you could see it on the kill cam. Like I said cant prove it of course. Everytime he killed me it looked like he had the ult up.
Sounds odd, but his gun actually has 0 recoil and is 100% accurate if you fire in ~5 round bursts. Thats one of the reasons he's so good at mid range.

You can just spray on tanks unless you're a god at headtracking though since they're so big
 

RowdyReverb

Member
I wonder what the thought process was for allowing duplicates to be found in the loot boxes. I would honestly rather have a Halo 5 situation where there is just a glut of common items to collect, so even if you don't get anything rare, you're at least getting only new things with each box.
I guess they're just trying to stretch the content, and there isn't enough common junk to keep the rare things rare without dupes.
 

Peff

Member
Overwatch is gonna be in a weird spot going forward, I think. Even if competitive ends up banning multiple heroes, the game itself still lets you select it and is going to be balanced around having them(which is why Winston's shield got nerfed originally). It's going to be hard for Blizzard to tweak everything in a way that satisfies everyone.

I don't think they're ever going to generalize single heroes, because frankly it'd just replace the current issues with a different set of problems altogether (a bad player hogging the required counter, people stubbornly choosing their "main" just because they might not be able to later, etc). But they could certainly do that in ranked, and hopefully it'd result in more balanced teams outside of the first few matches.
 

Dunlop

Member
I was originally against the idea of hero limits, but seeing as what a clusterfuck it's making of balance and that it's only ever used to abuse double Winston and double McCree, I'd really rather have it on.
I just want there to be a game mode with it, but replace what is in place now.

Maybe it's only on consoles, but stacking torb's on defence is pretty much a free win.
 

RowdyReverb

Member
Overwatch is gonna be in a weird spot going forward, I think. Even if competitive ends up banning multiple heroes, the game itself still lets you select it and is going to be balanced around having them(which is why Winston's shield got nerfed originally). It's going to be hard for Blizzard to tweak everything in a way that satisfies everyone.
Balancing games to please both pros and pubs alike has always been a struggle since forever. I trust Blizzard to do it right, but I'm not sure what the answer is to keep all pros from choosing the same small set of "good" characters every game.
Finally saved up for my Mercy devil skin, so good.

By devil I hope you mean Imp Mercy.
I've got the money now, but I'm actually more drawn to the Viking costumes
 

Hellix

Member
So I've only been playing it this weekend, but it seems like if you don't have a Reinhardt on your team, you simply lose.
 

Raptor

Member
Weekend'ish project, trying to see if I can design an Overwatch hero ... and its been fucking difficult! My best effort so far is a Mongol Eagle Hunter, which I think could be a badass idea if modernized and with sufficient gameplay context.

For a while I was struggling with the whole "she has an eagle, how does that work in an FPS? Is the eagle visible, invincible, does it cover too much of the screen?" Anyways, my latest is yet another amuptee, lol, but basically her arm IS the eagle, which can attach and detach at any moment.



As you can see, my dog is not particularly impressed, how dare he.
Your dog is thinking "throw it in the garbage and start over"

:p

Looks good man.
 
Whenever I would play Mercy during the Beta hardly anyone would kill me, and even during launch week (console vervsion here) no one would bother, but now? Holy shit it seems whenever I pick Mercy the enemy team just focuses all their firepower on me. I'm dying constantly

Lend me your shoulder GAF. ;_;
 

Skii

Member
I just finally got this game on PS4 and having some real fun but a few questions...

1. How do you actually counter Bastion? I know people are going to say it's easy if you're pro but I still feel like he's far too overpowered for those that lack skill.

2. What are some of the widely known "good characters"? I've tried D.Va and Bastion and they both are pretty good. But I'd like something with good damage and mobility.

3. How many loot boxes would you get from say 30 hours of play? It's ridiculous that it's the only reward in this game (from what I can tell).
 

Raging Spaniard

If they are Dutch, upright and breathing they are more racist than your favorite player
So I've only been playing it this weekend, but it seems like if you don't have a Reinhardt on your team, you simply lose.

Having a tank is useful and hes the most noob friendly, but that thought is incorrect. Bastion can shred him, Junkrats bombs go through the barrier and Mei and Pharah can deal with him.

He enables more "tradtional" play, but theres many other ways to go.
 
Watching Overwatch is the same feeling I had to watching TF 2, it's so boring. It really is a game I would rather play than watch.

Yeah, there's a reason comp TF2 only became semi-popular once they chose a format where half the classes are never used. I can't imagine that Overwatch will be a popular eSport when half the maps involve one team turtling and the other team sloooooowly escorting a payload.
 

Satch

Banned
omg i got play of the game as reinhardt, im on the comeup

edit: and gold in all the categories wow!!! im learning waow
 

R0ckman

Member
Wow first time I got put on a team that was so garbage teir that it was constantly having multiple ques of people leaving and joing the whole match.
 

RowdyReverb

Member
Whenever I would play Mercy during the Beta hardly anyone would kill me, and even during launch week (console vervsion here) no one would bother, but now? Holy shit it seems whenever I pick Mercy the enemy team just focuses all their firepower on me. I'm dying constantly

Lend me your shoulder GAF. ;_;
People are getting wise. Remember back in the beta when you could just melt the other team with one Bastion? Good times
 
I played this game too much and am level 94. So, the game now gives me horrible matches every single time. Generally teammates from level 10-30 who barely have an idea how to play this game.

Why does it do that? Does it think I can carry them or something? It's just loss after loss unless I play with a party entirely of friends. And I mean entirely, if we have 4 people it will just give us 2 trash randoms and we lose.
 

Rhaknar

The Steam equivalent of the drunk friend who keeps offering to pay your tab all night.
So I've only been playing it this weekend, but it seems like if you don't have a Reinhardt on your team, you simply lose.

Not to be a dick but its very likely that anything you said after the words "so I've only been playing it this weekend" would be incorrect lol :p

And yes your statement about Rein is fact not true.
 
You know what would happen if I tried that? I would imediatly fall to my death ;_;

That is because you are unversed in the ways of the Rocket Queen.

(Real talk, if I tried that I'd make it over there, get out the first syllable, and immediately get sniped or hooked or whatever. Every time, without fail :p)
 
Big hammer does big damage with a stupid huge hitbox

E is a harass and does good damage

Charge will kill everyone but tanks and gives mobility to get out of spawn faster

Shield that blocks D.Va, Roadhog, McCree ults and can provide cover to take out a Bastion or Torbjorn turret

Ultimate that renders people unable to do ANYTHING for 3 seconds, more then enough time for Reinhardt alone to kill at least 2 people

500 hp

Not hard to see why he's picked constantly on offense and defense

I pick Reinhardt almost exclusively unless someone picks him first.
 

Antiwhippy

the holder of the trombone
Out of all the characters I feel like bastion is the one that needs a rework the most, because now he's either a noob wall or a very situational tank buster.
 
Out of all the characters I feel like bastion is the one that needs a rework the most, because now he's either a noob wall or a very situational tank buster.

Eeeeeeyup.

A character that goes from OP Pubstomper to low-tier clown pick is not a well designed character.

AND NO, HE DOES NOT NEED A NERF, before the "lol why you asking them to nerf bastion" force shows up. He needs a total overhaul.

Too much justice.

Never enough JUSTICE.
 
Played last night for the first time. Actually played a few gaffers for a little while and then jumped on with a buddy from work.

You guys and gals weren't kidding. This game is amazing.
 

Son Of D

Member
I just finally got this game on PS4 and having some real fun but a few questions...

1. How do you actually counter Bastion? I know people are going to say it's easy if you're pro but I still feel like he's far too overpowered for those that lack skill.

Snipers can shut him down easily since his bullets are weaker at long range so they can take minimal damage. Alternatively if you're Pharah you can stand at the corner hiding, then peek out and fire a rocket quickly before hiding. Do that quick enough and you can take out a Bastion before they damage you too much or heal. Junkrat could be good but I don't use him so I can't say for certain.
 

R0ckman

Member
I played this game too much and am level 94. So, the game now gives me horrible matches every single time. Generally teammates from level 10-30 who barely have an idea how to play this game.

Why does it do that? Does it think I can carry them or something? It's just loss after loss unless I play with a party entirely of friends. And I mean entirely, if we have 4 people it will just give us 2 trash randoms and we lose.

Depending on how your win rate is it needs to keep you at 50%, it matches you based a hidden variable, and pairs you based on whether its time for you to win or lose.
 

RowdyReverb

Member
Out of all the characters I feel like bastion is the one that needs a rework the most, because now he's either a noob wall or a very situational tank buster.
It would be nice if his recon mode wasn't completely useless so you could at least have a play style with him other than "where's a good spot to camp?"
 
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