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People seem to forget that the Pro is premium product
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SkyHighTrees
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reaction here is hysterical, worse than reeee but reddit is worse than here....
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buncha brokie mans
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Plus chip costs are sky high right now
Sony is like you guys want this thing great we arent losing money on each unit sold, pay me
Edit - I still think its a premium product in the sense its going to be by far the best place to play console games
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Celcius
°Temp. member
I would argue a different perspective here. wifi 7 for example is included and isn't something that can be added on later. Same for the extra performance. A disc drive is one of the few things that can be added on later after the purchase.
Better to include what they must in the box and then make everything optional that isn't absolutely necessary.
Marginally better shit zoomed 400% is not worth a x2 price increase, the CPU will bottleneck the FPS.
With the PS4 Pro you got a noticeable jump from 1080p to 1440p or checkerboard 4K, THAT was worth it, THAT was a big jump and it didn’t cost double to buy it.
Imagine showing PS4 Games in your PS5 PRO presentation because you don’t have any flagship PS5 titles, what a fucking embarrassment.
DeltaPolarBear
Member
I don't see the problem, the common theme with most premium products is that it is not really necessary. That you pay more because you want to, not because you need to. PS5 is fine and will remain the base for gaming.
As i said, Sony doesn't care if you don't buy the Pro, they don't actually get more money from you than if you stay on the regular PS5. It is just an option.
Celcius
°Temp. member
The cpu is fine. Cerny said he asked devs what they wanted and it was more graphical power for ray tracing and 60 fps. That's what he delivered.
You talk about the PS4 pro going 1080p to checkerboard 4K, but have you seen GT7 running in 8K with PSSR in the CNET video?
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Imagine thinking that was it, that's all they are going to show
We have a State of Play coming (safe bet) and TGS coming with a special DS2 showing
Topher
Identifies as young
Perhaps. And really I have no problem with a company making a profit off their product. That's just business. They just need to do a hell of a lot better sales job than that shit yesterday.
TheTony316
Member
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
I can't disagree with that, they better have a much better showing for people on the fence especially
They had me 2 1/2 years ago when I first heard about this machine so they don't have to sell me on it
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FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Pretty much nailed it.
It's 45% better than the PS5 while being almost 100% more expensive. And lacking the disc drive. Its not "premium" when its lacking features that the base model already has.
Value is subjective, but the value here is just ridiculously low for many.
Topher
Identifies as young
Kinda funny, because rich folks are some of the biggest tightwads on the planet. That's why they are rich.
Nankatsu
Member
Guardian Monkey
Member
It’s an easy scalpe. When the pro launch’s don’t be surprised to see a bunch of these selling for 2x elsewhere when they are out of stock from the main retailers.
ShakenG
Member
How exactly is it overpriced crap?How could you name all those things and forgot to mention the Lambo you also bought?
Just because you like to spend your money on overpriced crap doesn't mean that it's justifyiable for crap to be overpriced in the first place.
Not that hard to get.
And a lambo, what are you on about?
Care to explain how its overpriced because im yet to see 1 person do this.
Dont waste my time with ya childish crap.
Bernardougf
Member
Mate you and I were champion a kick ass machine at higher prices ... do you think this is it ? Did you expect this price with the settings you heard ? You were spot on with the expectation for the expecs... so you knew... tell about the price though... you also knew ? Or was it a surprise in the higher side. ?
Jibran#one
Member
I've said it in a previous post
The price of the PS5 pro is one problem these Sony cuks like op defending the Ludacris price is a whole another problem.
It's not like they put a zen 4 cpu in it and now asking for 300 more dollars.
Just think for a second u simp bastards if they are now charging 800 euros for a mid gen refresh they will ass rape your wallet with the PS6
Stop sucking big corporations balls whether it's Sony , Microsoft or apple
The price of the PS5 pro is one problem these Sony cuks like op defending the Ludacris price is a whole another problem.
It's not like they put a zen 4 cpu in it and now asking for 300 more dollars.
Just think for a second u simp bastards if they are now charging 800 euros for a mid gen refresh they will ass rape your wallet with the PS6
Stop sucking big corporations balls whether it's Sony , Microsoft or apple
ShakenG
Member
Was SMH after the 1st 2 minutes. The whole video came across as minimal effort.Nah......nine minute video will do the trick.
scarlet0pimp
Member
I think the issue is that for the cost of it it doesn't seem that much premium over the standard PS5. I'm going to wait to see more games running on it before I decide to get it.
Sony did a bad job so far of showing the benefits and the high cost doesn't help at all.
Sony did a bad job so far of showing the benefits and the high cost doesn't help at all.
omegasc
Member
yeah, I thought that after the presentation they would have lots of hi-res videos showing the improvements, like 5 min gameplays of multiple games or such. But they are saving all that for later and that is giving too much time to look at that price
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Unless its something rich folks really want
I did know most of the specs though PSSR surprised me when MLiD leaked that
Price wise the whispers kind of in the loop caught wind of $600, not sure what happened
Concords failure hurt more than expected?
Limited Edition Series X pricing?
Maybe Sony just said fuck it lets make a few more bucks on these suckers like this Heisenberg guy
Bernardougf
Member
Yeah by the look of it seems like normal profits + 100$ per console.Unless its something rich folks really want
I did know most of the specs though PSSR surprised me when MLiD leaked that
Price wise the whispers kind of in the loop caught wind of $600, not sure what happened
Concords failure hurt more than expected?
Limited Edition Series X pricing?
Maybe Sony just said fuck it lets make a few more bucks on these suckers like this Heisenberg guy
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
Holy hell does this read like a bought and paid advertisement.
KungFucius
King Snowflake
Its a waste across the board. Its a premium toy when the real premium product is a hardcore PC. It adds nothing in the space and likely increases the cost of development for all multiplatform games. Also the "Pro" moniker is lame. Fuck the apple wanna be shit with Pro phones. I am a professional texter and a professional couch gamer. Lame.
I hope the product doesn't sell well and they regret wasting resources on it. FFS the stream of exclusives on PS5 is a trickle. Who needs to play the 2 games they drop each year on a 40% better machine?
I hope the product doesn't sell well and they regret wasting resources on it. FFS the stream of exclusives on PS5 is a trickle. Who needs to play the 2 games they drop each year on a 40% better machine?
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Physiognomonics
Member
Same for pro. Just get ready guys.
majestix1988
Member
It's better they announced it first than waiting for games that will use its "unique" than to normal PS5 + we are near TGS on this month + Sony not yet announced what games they will use a bonafide product for PS5 pro to play for thus I believe it's just Sony is waiting game right now like we are still searching for next State of Play this month or next month
Yup there is games that announced has enhanced or such but still on gamer point of view it's not worth it to be benchmark for new console
Yup there is games that announced has enhanced or such but still on gamer point of view it's not worth it to be benchmark for new console
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Topher
Identifies as young
Yeah, every one needs to make a choice for themselves and not judge others for doing the same. I very well may end up buying this thing. I'm just not sold yet. Anyone have a problem with that then they will just have to find a way to get over it.
Little Chicken
Banned
Showcasing a premium product with last gen games was an awful idea.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
You're not going to get a new CPU in a pro product. What would it be used for? That's a new gen. A midgen only needs higher clocks for framerate.
Nankatsu
Member
When I updated from my base PS4, which I bought at launch, to a PS4 Pro, I managed to sold my base PS4, 3 years after launch, for around 300€.
So in order to get the PS4 Pro, I had to come up with extra 200€. It's acceptable for a mid-gen update.
Fast forward until now. If I sell my launch PS5 (with disk tray) I might get around between the same 300€ or 350€, it depends.
If I went for the PS5 Pro that would mean that I would have to come up, for a mid-generation update, with around 570€ extra.
From 200€ extra to 570€.
This is delusional.
So in order to get the PS4 Pro, I had to come up with extra 200€. It's acceptable for a mid-gen update.
Fast forward until now. If I sell my launch PS5 (with disk tray) I might get around between the same 300€ or 350€, it depends.
If I went for the PS5 Pro that would mean that I would have to come up, for a mid-generation update, with around 570€ extra.
From 200€ extra to 570€.
This is delusional.
FoxMcChief
Gold Member
I don’t care if anyone buys the Pro. I think it’s ok to call out “some” folk that are trying to justify their purchase with some mental gymnastics maneuvers.
asdasdasdbb
Member
The PS4 Pro got a 40% clock increase. This got a 10% increase and only maybe.
Chuck Berry
Gold Member
There are 14 fucking topics about this thing on the front page
Seriously? We can't condense this shit into one or two or them?
Seriously? We can't condense this shit into one or two or them?
diffusionx
Gold Member
Seems like this gen, Sony made a conscious decision to squeeze their "enthusiast" fans.
$200 controller. $200 remote play device. $5000 PS5 Pro. But they are delivering something for these people.
$200 controller. $200 remote play device. $5000 PS5 Pro. But they are delivering something for these people.
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majestix1988
Member
You can still play your PS5 in this current gen it's just 5pro it's just for those want to be more Unique and whatever advantage will bring on this new console
It's just like Primaris Marines(equivalent of ps5pro) vs Firstborn Marines(PS5) in 40k universe in battlefield it's just same result
It's just like Primaris Marines(equivalent of ps5pro) vs Firstborn Marines(PS5) in 40k universe in battlefield it's just same result
PurePlatinum
Member
They launched PS5/XSX at clearly the lowest and most competitive prices they could, and then the inflation of the last few years set in, and totally screwed them.
-PS5 price going up in most regions
-controller pricing going up
-no major price drops even with slim redesign
-expensive new 2TB Xbox Series X
All these were signs that behind the scenes the inflation in their primary markets are absolutely eating their lunch. PS5 Pro was always going to be an expensive piece of kit. PS6/new Xbox will follow the same path.
-PS5 price going up in most regions
-controller pricing going up
-no major price drops even with slim redesign
-expensive new 2TB Xbox Series X
All these were signs that behind the scenes the inflation in their primary markets are absolutely eating their lunch. PS5 Pro was always going to be an expensive piece of kit. PS6/new Xbox will follow the same path.
HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
I am buying it, 2 in fact because I want the best console experience I can get
I guess people can call me out as well
$5000 PS5 Pro that can outperform a 4090 based PC running Ghost of Tsushima 2 4k 240hz with all the bells and whistles turned on?
Bernardougf
Member
I didnt say i needed a new cpu... I said that this price hick without a new cpu didnt feel like a premium product to me. I never expected a new cpu for the pro.. I didnt expect 699 either ... 599 for the espec. leaked was my guess ... imho they are at least 100 dollars of the mark.
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