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[Xeke]

Can we stop posting links to twitter, without any actual content?

Going back and forth on a phone is a major PITA.

No big deal here on my laptop.

 

[jamesinclair]

No big deal here on my laptop.

Right, on a laptop you just center click and BAM, new tab.

phone, not so much

Didn't they already warn them that this kind of shit was a non starter on the Dem side? The fuk.


Oh and funny story some asshole in a BMV chased me a bit on the freeway on my home yesterday screaming and hollering due to my Obama stickers. asshole.

1) Slam on the brakes
2) BMW is 100% at fault
3) Enjoy your new car

 

[Hitokage]

Can we stop posting links to twitter, without any actual content?

Going back and forth on a phone is a major PITA.

Agreed. You also don't know if something will get deleted, like Donald Trump did on election night.

 

[Clevinger]

Does his face remind anyone else of a muppet?

 

[teh_pwn]

I cannot wait to hear the "Obama won't work with Congress" excuses after this fails to get a vote in the House with 92/100 votes supporting it in Senate.

 

[PhoenixDark]

twitter says republicans failed to get the 218. They will give the bill an up/down vote now

 

[el retorno]

twitter says republicans failed to get the 218. They will give the bill an up/down vote now

so the deal passes

 

[Aaron Strife]

What really cracks me up about the situation is, Boehner punted this straight over to McConnell and Reid to solve. They did, with a deal that got a 92-8 vote. Now Boehner's not happy with the lifeline they threw him. You can't make this shit up.

He probably figured they wouldn't, and no speaker wants to break the Hastert rule (don't bring bills to the floor without a majority support from your caucus). Looks like he'll have to anyway.

 

[Rubenov]

twitter says republicans failed to get the 218. They will give the bill an up/down vote now

This stuff is entertaining as fuck... nervous right now.

 

[Amir0x]

What really cracks me up about the situation is, Boehner punted this straight over to McConnell and Reid to solve. They did, with a deal that got a 92-8 vote. Now Boehner's not happy with the lifeline they threw him. You can't make this shit up.

To be absolutely fair to Boehner, I don't think it's absolutely him who is not happy with the lifeline. He is wrangling with an absolutely nut-case tea party caucus who refuses to compromise on anything at all. This says more about Boehner's inability to control a large part of the House Republicans than what he personally feels about this deal.

 

[teh_pwn]

Wait, let me predict the future:

FOX NEWS: OBUMMER failed to compromise with his 70% tax on highest earners. Congressmen Boner courageously defended tax cuts for the middle class, but OBUMMER's secret deals with the Senate killed the bill.

 

[el retorno]

John Boehner: "I’m not interested in passing something with mostly Democrat votes."

 

[BobTheFork]

twitter says republicans failed to get the 218. They will give the bill an up/down vote now

Damn. this is way better than college football.
So, what are the feeling on the up/down vote. Will it pass?

 

[Officerrob]

John Boehner: "I’m not interested in passing something with mostly Democrat votes."

That's about to change

 

[el retorno]

Damn. this is way better than college football.
So, what are the feeling on the up/down vote. Will it pass?

dems will vote for it but it comes down to republicans voting for it. It will probably have more dem support than republican if it passes

 

[Officerrob]

Damn. this is way better than college football.
So, what are the feeling on the up/down vote. Will it pass?

Yes, with about 150 Dems and 70-75 Republicans

 

[QuiteWhittle]

What would happen politically if not enough Republicans vote to pass it?

 

[Cloudy]

John Boehner: "I’m not interested in passing something with mostly Democrat votes."

He really said this? WTF

 

[B-Dubs]

John Boehner: "I’m not interested in passing something with mostly Democrat votes."

ohboyohboyohboy

 

[el retorno]

He really said this? WTF

he said it a few days ago.

http://www.politico.com/story/2012/12/fiscal-cliff-action-shifts-to-senate-85550.html

Also isn't the adjective form democratic?

 

[QuiteWhittle]

He really said this? WTF

Several days ago.

 

[BobTheFork]

dems will vote for it but it comes down to republicans voting for it. It will probably have more dem support than republican if it passes

Yeah, but I was wondering more about how much Republican support it would need in the House. They don't want an amendment to it, so will they take it as is?

 

[Rubenov]

Yeah, but I was wondering more about how much Republican support it would need in the House. They don't want an amendment to it, so will they take it as is?

That *seems* to be the outcome, we'll find out soon.

 

[GhaleonEB]

To be absolutely fair to Boehner, I don't think it's absolutely him who is not happy with the lifeline. He is wrangling with an absolutely nut-case tea party caucus who refuses to compromise on anything at all. This says more about Boehner's inability to control a large part of the House Republicans than what he personally feels about this deal.

True, but the bill doesn't need his caucus to pass. He just needs to allow the vote and get out of the way.

Which it looks like he'll be doing now. Not as hilarious an end as I'd hoped, but it was fun.

We get to do this all over again in two months. Good lord. :\

 

[Wilsongt]

So, I am clueless. What does this all mean now?

 

[el retorno]

Yeah, but I was wondering more about how much Republican support it would need in the House. They don't want an amendment to it, so will they take it as is?

I think there are enough votes. I think this was just incompetence in leading his party.

The bill will probably pass but this stunt shows that they don't have the leverage they thought they do. I'm pretty positive about the debt ceiling now.

 

[Rubenov]

True, but the bill doesn't need his caucus to pass. He just needs to allow the vote and get out of the way.

Which it looks like he'll be doing now. Not as hilarious an end as I'd hoped, but it was fun.

We get to do this all over again in two months. Good lord. :\

I won't be going short volatility on my portfolio for the next one, the last week gave me some serious gray hair.

 

[Amir0x]

True, but the bill doesn't need his caucus to pass. He just needs to allow the vote and get out of the way.

Which it looks like he'll be doing now. Not as hilarious an end as I'd hoped, but it was fun.

We get to do this all over again in two months. Good lord. :\

It's true, but I think he was maybe gauging just how much damage it would do to his political future. These guys are cowards. But I think he realizes if they don't do this, the damage would be incalculable.

 

[el retorno]

True, but the bill doesn't need his caucus to pass. He just needs to allow the vote and get out of the way.

Its funny that he's breaking the majority of the majority rule which is how the house has been run by republicans the last 20 years.

I don't know of other times that its been broken

 

[polyh3dron]

Also isn't the adjective form democratic?

Didn't want it to be confused with the democratic process.

 

[BobTheFork]

I think there are enough votes. I think this was just incompetence in leading his party.

The bill will probably pass but this stunt shows that they don't have the leverage they thought they do. I'm pretty positive about the debt ceiling now.

I guess I'd be surprised from a political perspective if it got enough Republicans voted for it. With major taxes and minor spending cuts it feels like voting for it could be used against them. I guess you weight that with taking the blame for going over the cliff and some common sense. Is this a case of the GOP just being kind of a mess overall or is it a lack of good leadership in Congress for them?

Its funny that he's breaking the majority of the majority rule which is how the house has been run by republicans the last 20 years.

I don't know of other times that its been broken

Exactly. They have been so hardline about how they handle themselves. IS this just potential damage control.

 

[Rubenov]

They could have had a deal with significant spending cuts if they started work on this months ago, not on the night AFTER we are over the damm cliff.

 

[el retorno]

Does LaTourette have tourette's? He keeps spewing crap out of his mouth

Rep. Steve LaTourette (R-Ohio), a Boehner ally and moderate, said he will urge his colleagues to amend the package.

“We should not take a package put together by a bunch of sleep-deprived octogenarians on New Year’s Eve,” he said.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs...1/house-republicans-meet-to-weigh-cliff-deal/

 

[bodyofanamerican]

It's true, but I think he was maybe gauging just how much damage it would do to his political future. These guys are cowards. But I think he realizes if they don't do this, the damage would be incalculable.

To say nothing of if they refuse to raise the debt ceiling in a few months (or was that what you were referring to?).

 

[B-Dubs]

To say nothing of if they refuse to raise the debt ceiling in a few months (or was that what you were referring to?).

The debt ceiling is going to be happening at the same time as the sequester if this plan passes so that will be fun to see. I wonder how the GOP will fight for more cuts to things while opposing huge cuts to everything.

 

[el retorno]

I guess I'd be surprised from a political perspective if it got enough Republicans voted for it. With major taxes and minor spending cuts it feels like voting for it could be used against them. I guess you weight that with taking the blame for going over the cliff and some common sense. Is this a case of the GOP just being kind of a mess overall or is it a lack of good leadership in Congress for them?

Its many of these people have crazier nuts looking to primary them they can't vote for compromise. They're more scared of them than the cliff or a democratic challenger

The debt ceiling is going to be happening at the same time as the sequester if this plan passes so that will be fun to see. I wonder how the GOP will fight for more cuts to things while opposing huge cuts to everything.

Today's events make me so much more confident for this in two months.

 

[Rubenov]

CNN live blog still doesn't show they did not find the 218 for the amendment... I trust GAF but I want it on CNN!.

 

[Officerrob]

CNN live blog still doesn't show they did not find the 218 for the amendment... I trust GAF but I want it on CNN!.

Rep Murphy just said on CNN he doesn't think they will get the 218

 

[el retorno]

CNN live blog still doesn't show they did not find the 218 for the amendment... I trust GAF but I want it on CNN!.

I don't think its been put up for a vote and probably won't be since they're not gonna get the votes. Twitter as GOP sources saying they're gonna put up the senate bill and it'll pass.


Also how does it work that this is a revenue bill but it started in the senate?

 

[Link]

He probably figured they wouldn't, and no speaker wants to break the Hastert rule (don't bring bills to the floor without a majority support from your caucus). Looks like he'll have to anyway.

This already happened to him just last week with the Plan B debacle.

 

[BobTheFork]

Its many of these people have crazier nuts looking to primary them they can't vote for compromise. They're more scared of them than the cliff or a democratic challenger

True. They have more to worry about behind their back than on the other side of the aisle

 

[Aaron Strife]

This already happened to him just last week with the Plan B debacle.

He didn't bring it to the floor though.

 

[el retorno]

He didn't bring it to the floor though.

Yea they never voted.

 

[Link]

He didn't bring it to the floor though.

Right, but that's only because he realized it wouldn't have the votes after he had already put the process in motion. It was just as damning.

 

[B-Dubs]

Right, but that's only because he realized it wouldn't have the votes after he had already put the process in motion. It was just as damning.

Not quite as hilarious though.

 

[el retorno]

Right, but that's only because he realized it wouldn't have the votes after he had already put the process in motion. It was just as damning.

Its embarrassing but not as much as puting it in the congressional record that a bill passed thanks to the minority.

 

[ClovingWestbrook]

Most GOP members are going to vote against amendment. Looks like fiscal cliff averted.

 

[Link]

Not quite as hilarious though.

Considering it was his own bill, I'm not so sure.

 

[B-Dubs]

Considering it was his own bill, I'm not so sure.

Imagine if it had made it to the House floor and been voted down. Tell me that wouldn't be funnier.

 

[PhoenixDark]

Wow tcot is going crazy on twitter. The far right really hates this deal lol. Someone's even offering CPA advice to help folks avoid the charity deduction changes