PhoenixDark
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Sounds like some type of half assed compromise.
Regardless you're right - if foreign policy was a multiple choice test, "let's train/arm the rebels" would be a wrong answer every fucking time. It's blood money, nothing more.
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Sounds like some type of half assed compromise.
Regardless you're right - if foreign policy was a multiple choice test, "let's train/arm the rebels" would be a wrong answer every fucking time. It's blood money, nothing more.
God knows what they expected. That's the thing, Military leadership has proven to be very ineffectual when enacting long term plans and solutions on the ground. If all the military spending was allocated to actually long term planning about what happens after you've entered a conflict these type of situations would not occur. Than again I doubt the public would be very happy about the government investing trillions into rebuilding nations. It's a tricky slope - you either invest meaningful amounts to build infrastructure, train and teach a new governing class, provide on going assistance until the economy is able to rebuild - chaos would always take over. There is always a power vacuum, in such situations. It's understandable on one hand because those "free" people can choose someone who could get cozy with Russia, China or some other geopolitical power and all that investment would be wiped cleaned.
It's very naive to think that you could put in place friendly regimes that would do your bidding. That was a possibility up until the 90's but right now things have changed drastically.
http://edition.cnn.com/2015/08/12/politics/iowa-poll-clinton-sanders-iowa/
This is an older poll among registered democrats and it follows the same logic - democrats who want an electable candidate choose between Clinton and Biden. While Sanders is mainly doing his own thing
NYCmetsfan
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Not really. Though its a bad idea in most ethnic wars unless it's a simple breakaway war. I was a bit of a hawk in the beginning of Syria but since probably late last year I've given up all hope.
The only thing we should be doing is helping those who are in the crossfire. And watching Isis so they don't threaten other allies.
I love how instead of linking the poll you were talking about you went and linked a completely different one from two months ago.
RustyNails
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Nation building should absolutely be part of the equation. Abandoning a country like Afghanistan after Soviets retreated or Libya recently has taught nothing to US leaders. But more immediate issue of Assad and ISIS needed to be dealt with. Assad has provided virtually limitless recruitment material for Sunni militants and would be militants. We should have taken him out. If Russia and China were blocking us, well, we needed better diplomats. Reminds of US' ineffectual leadership in the face of a Putin like strongman in House of Cards. Thats literally what happened.
If that Security Council really was indeed a dead end and ISIS was an inevitability, why didn't we arm the YPG? The only fucking force in that region with proven success against ISIS, and we are afraid we will piss of Erdogan. You can't walk on eggshells all the time. It's not like Turkey would cut off diplomatic ties with us over it.
No, I wanted the poll you were talking about. If you had linked it we could have gone into the crosstabs and seen the numbers for ourselves.
Link the poll you were talking about or stop this.
You are moving goal posts - while the trend is pretty clear.
Unless you have polls that disapprove my assertion you should stop this.
Abinash117
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TPP deal looks like is going to be reached. I don't think it'll effect the elections that much though.
It would have worked out great because it'll give the administration full control over them and could influence other groups. But it was stupid on how they did it.
The administration instead is going to fund Kurdish and Arab fighters, and might train recruits and put them with the Kurds.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...6460919_story.html?postshare=8251443913230381
It would have worked out great because it'll give the administration full control over them and could influence other groups. But it was stupid on how they did it.
The administration instead is going to fund Kurdish and Arab fighters, and might train recruits and put them with the Kurds.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...6460919_story.html?postshare=8251443913230381
I'm moving the goal posts?!
All I want is for you to link the poll you referenced! I asked you to link it and you refuse! You fucking quoted from the article associated with it! Is throwing a link in so fucking hard?
You know what, fuck this. Congratulations, you are the second poster to ever make my ignore list. I don't have time for your games.
Retromelon
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Yo we finna kill the batmens
There was no way for the US to enact a no fly zone over Syria without China, China is perfectly fine with the ongoing tension between the US and Russia since they trade with both nations. I'd be surprised if China wasn't aware of Putin's plans for Syria in advance. All the previous conflicts and the results of those conflicts have placed a stain on the US foreign policy and removed any leverage the US might have had - if Lybia, Iraq and Afghanistan had miraculously not fallen into complete chaos.
The problem is that Turkey has 24 Nato bases, you either play ball with Erdogan or he could very much choose a different ally. Like you said walking on eggshells either way the risk of making Erdogan more uncooperative is a major concern regarding any sort of policy in the middle east. Hence the Kurds were never given much in terms of support both in Iraq or Syria.
You take this way too seriously, you wanted a poll of registered democrats and the two I had spoken about didn't qualify - thus I even went through the trouble to find you a nice graph and polls that support my notion. So you could look at and come to the same conclusion as me and after all that trouble all I get in return is being ignored.
brainchild
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I'm going to be honest, barring harassment, I don't get the ignore feature. It seems like a precursor to bigotry to me.
I don't think there's anything any poster could do to elicit such a strong reaction from me. I just don't understand it.
It's gotta make threads more confusing.
O.O
The only other person on the list is from so long ago that I don't even remember why he's there, he has been banned though.
brainchild
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Black Mirror does a pretty good job of showing what it would be like to have the ignore feature in real life. The outlook is... not so good.
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thepotatoman
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They'll still have to do an up/down vote on it.
Maybe trump can rally enough republicans against it to block it.
Abinash117
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I don't think he has influence in congress. Many Republicans voted for TPA I expect many to vote for this including some democrats .
And_Gignac
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Theres not a single poll showing Biden taking more from Sanders than from Clinton. Pollsters agree that Biden running would be "benefit" (as in not hurt him as much as it would hurt Clinton) Sanders. Staph.
And the Sanders surge has been over like 3 times already. I would wait a week more to see if the next patch of polls confirm a downward trend.
And the Sanders surge has been over like 3 times already. I would wait a week more to see if the next patch of polls confirm a downward trend.
brainchild
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White Christmas (special episode).
I guess I missed that one.
NYCmetsfan
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Carville was my professor in college. lol at this.
The girl and booze quote was legit though, dude had cases of cases of beer at his house.
brainchild
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You definitely should check it out. It's by far the best of the bunch. It's not on Netflix, but I think you might be able find it on YouTube or something.
PhoenixDark
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Carville probably still hates Obama.
NYCmetsfan
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He doesn't
Poodlestrike
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Man, that is one sweet racket.
BRB moving to Nevada to run for the state legislature.
The rural reps must spend most of their time in the copper mines to afford the rent of their tin shacks.
they obviously have other jobs.
$152/per day.
http://www.ncsl.org/research/about-state-legislatures/2014-ncsl-legislator-salary-and-per-diem-table.aspx
brainchild
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This is insane.
NobleXenon
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And we only recently legalized Special Sessions too, lol.
Retromelon
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But if this image is true wouldn't he want you to think he was sincere
Don't bolt the herd metsfan
Also, that came from an insane article on the Uber and Taxi lobby/cartel around taxis in Vegas:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/johanabhuiyan/sex-drugs-and-transportation#.oxJjwdooJ
http://www.buzzfeed.com/johanabhuiyan/sex-drugs-and-transportation#.oxJjwdooJ
BertramCooper
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Aren't there quite a few every-other-year state legislatures?
I'm pretty sure Alaska's legislature only meets every other year.
EDIT: Wrong. Apparently they meet 90 days every year.
I'm pretty sure Alaska's legislature only meets every other year.
EDIT: Wrong. Apparently they meet 90 days every year.
PhoenixDark
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I can hear his southern drawl now, muttering "this damn boy..." as he discusses current affairs with Bill.
BertramCooper
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One of the many ways in which Texas state government is really, really strange.
I sort of get Montana and North Dakota, but why the hell does Texas only meet once every two years?!
Republicans
But that had to have started well before the southern Republican dominance.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Did Dixiecrats care any more about government than modern Republicans?
NYCmetsfan
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I just here him cursing. Lol
Bam Bam Baklava
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It hurts Clinton more because Clinton has more support to lose. Biden is more competitive in more states than Sanders and would EASILY take 2nd place in national polling when he becomes official. Truth hurts.
Poodlestrike
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The whole "government is uselessly inefficient" stuff begins to make more sense.
Oh yes. The last Texas session I worked at was for the 2001 session, when we did the big water usage & rights bill in a special session.
I can't count how many times I heard "the govt that governs least governs best" when the topic of legislative sessions came-up.
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