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PoliGAF 2015 |OT2| Pls print
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Yes but with a 5-4 liberal SCOTUS (at the very least) with Hillary in the WH, a lot of these state level decisions could be thrown out if they are challenged properly.
cartoon_soldier
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That's a terrible plan to fall back on. DNC needs to figure out what they need to do for these non-Presidential cycle races.
Has this guy learned absolutely nothing about this election cycle? Don't apologize, double down! The French are lazy and never accomplish anything, some I assume are good people, etc.
It's really nice to be a particle physicist, because no one knows what you do and can't enforce their beliefs on your science. We don't get people holding melting Higgs bosons on the Senate floor or anything.
I'm not saying this is an excuse to not focus on non-Presidential cycle races. I just disagree that the White House should somehow be less important.
Starting at the top. I haven't liked the job that DWS has been doing for some time, but it might be time to become more vocal when the DNC contacts me. Dems only seem to do well in their solid blue states and in the few swing states with GOTV operations, and that's no way to approach getting a working majority.
I agree with SCOTUS being good insurance for excesses of the opposition, but lower courts help immensely too. They consider a ton of cases, and many lawsuits at district/appeals level can nip nasty legislation in the bud without having to go higher up. (My fantasy? A liberal 5th circuit. That'd be a solid indicator of thorough control of the judiciary.)
I really laughed aloud. Not sure why, but this got to me.😝
Huge Rubio bump there. I can see him winning NH.
NobleXenon
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How does farming up politicians for higher levels work exactly? Someone said that Democrats control almost all of the 30 biggest cities in the United States. Just wait until 2020, 2022, and 2024 for them to run for Governor?
Manmademan
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The point is that there have been some extremely critical decisions in the last administration like Obamacare and Marriage Equality that squeaked past the supreme court on razor thin margins. These decisions are nearly impossible to reverse, since justices rarely retire.
We have at least one liberal justice definitely leaving in the next 4 to 8 years, so a republican president means conservative decisions for the next two decades.
Think of how much bullshit could have been avoided had citizens united gone the other way. State level politics that turn over much more frequently are in NO WAY more critical than long term control of the SC.
DWS needs to step down, I agree.
Dems have to win where they can, and they're down so badly in state government that they should focus on what they know they can win (the WH). This, again, is not an excuse to overlook other races. But if nothing else, the party needs to make sure the WH does not change hands or Dems could be shut out for a good 10 years when it comes to meaningful policy and impact on the law.
In a broader sense, Dems can't stop all of the bleeding that has occurred since 2010. It's going to take time, not just a good plan. We're talking at least 2-3 successful election cycles and that is going to be hard to do. What they can do at the very least is keep the White House Democratic, ensure the SCOTUS will lean left by the end of a Clinton Presidency, which can stop absolutely toxic decisions like Citizens United from being decided. Who knows, they could reverse such decisions too which will have a direct impact on elections at the state level and favor Dems heavily. Executive orders also play a big role.
NihonTiger90
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So it looks like the GOP primary is finally boiling down to:
Trump
Carson
Cruz
Rubio
With the establishment falling in line behind Rubio, I'd assume, he should get through this and grab the nomination. Well, normally, but this seems like such a weird primary.
Trump
Carson
Cruz
Rubio
With the establishment falling in line behind Rubio, I'd assume, he should get through this and grab the nomination. Well, normally, but this seems like such a weird primary.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Except Rubio is still only barely in double figures while Trump and Carson are destroying everyone else.
He's slowly making his way up the ranks and we still have a year until the election. A lot could change. Trump could prove to be all hype and fizzle out. Again, I think at some point this will really escalate between himself and Carson which will allow Rubio to distance himself from them all the more and run with his own platform with little competition.
Rubio continues to rise on the Predictwise betting market:
Marco Rubio 43 %
Donald Trump 19 %
http://www.predictwise.com/politics/2016RepNomination
Marco Rubio 43 %
Donald Trump 19 %
http://www.predictwise.com/politics/2016RepNomination
ItWasMeantToBe19
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83% of Republicans said they would be uncomfortable with a Muslim president in that poll, what the fucking fuck.
The sky is blue.
Black Republican
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that Trump exchange with Cuomo on CNN was embarrassing, people really see this as presidential?
makingmusic476
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A local business on my way to work has taped a John Bel Edwards poster over their Scott Angelle sign.
Hehehe.
Hehehe.
QuiteWhittle
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Who should replace her(other than Dean of course)? Tim Kaine was pretty bad too.
I think we need someone who isn't an elected official and can focus full-time on the DNC.
David Plouffe would be pretty awesome
Let's see him maintain it for more than a couple weeks.
Manmademan
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The establishment vote is still very much fragmented. Keep in mind here that Rubio is benefiting from a strong debate performance and positive press and still barely out polls bush and Cruz.
Like fiorina that bump is going to evaporate if he doesn't take skillful advantage of it and keep his name in the media. Nothing we've seen so far indicates Rubio can actually do this. His campaign is a mess, he's going out of his way NOT to establish ground game in primary states and his non PAC fundraising is second worst behind Bush.
Trump and Carson might flame out (and Carson will be first if so) but that audience puts HEAVY emphasis on being attracted to non politicians and political outsiders and won't be voting Rubio. Carson tanks and his voters split between Trump and Cruz.
Rubio is poorly positioned to be last man standing here, and that's ignoring that he's going to get killed on the immigration issue.
You guys had an eventful election day.
I didn't get to vote, though the election in my district was literally just state supreme court judges (all five nominees of whom were endorsed by three parties...and in a contest for which you can vote up to five...) and a civil court county judge which probably did actually matter. It was supremely boring, and doubly so because I actually was working the polls.
Today I learned that there are so many Dems in NYC that to make the elections 'somewhat' fair from the processing side, oftentimes out of the poll workers somebody Dem would have to be picked to be the "stand in Republican" for certain procedures. Hilarious. At my polling place we had about 10 workers...only 1 Republican. When the Republican went on break, one of us drew an R on his nametag and he was the Republican for the break lol
I didn't get to vote, though the election in my district was literally just state supreme court judges (all five nominees of whom were endorsed by three parties...and in a contest for which you can vote up to five...) and a civil court county judge which probably did actually matter. It was supremely boring, and doubly so because I actually was working the polls.
Today I learned that there are so many Dems in NYC that to make the elections 'somewhat' fair from the processing side, oftentimes out of the poll workers somebody Dem would have to be picked to be the "stand in Republican" for certain procedures. Hilarious. At my polling place we had about 10 workers...only 1 Republican. When the Republican went on break, one of us drew an R on his nametag and he was the Republican for the break lol
Abinash117
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I read something similar that Obama didn't give stuff about his campaign to other dems. That seems really stupid.
Also a lot of voters are loyal to Obama and not the party or rather they care more about Obama than his party.
That's funny because I'm on a million e-mail lists for local candidates that I never signed up to since I was on Obama's Presidential list.
Damn.. so Vitter has released an ad accusing Edwards of wanting to release "thugs" from prison.
http://www.politico.com/video/2015/...edwards-of-wanting-thugs-out-of-prison-030693
And Edwards, fresh off of getting the Sheriffs' Association's endorsement, has cut a commercial in response:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJitV_bemQw&feature=youtu.be
Edwards also received the Alliance for Good Government's endorsement (they usually endorse the Republican).
He's slowly inoculating himself from charges that he's an Obama clone, using endorsements of organizations that are anything but liberal. Pretty clever. Time's running out for Vitter. And a third poll showing a 20% lead came out yesterday..
http://www.politico.com/video/2015/...edwards-of-wanting-thugs-out-of-prison-030693
And Edwards, fresh off of getting the Sheriffs' Association's endorsement, has cut a commercial in response:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJitV_bemQw&feature=youtu.be
Edwards also received the Alliance for Good Government's endorsement (they usually endorse the Republican).
He's slowly inoculating himself from charges that he's an Obama clone, using endorsements of organizations that are anything but liberal. Pretty clever. Time's running out for Vitter. And a third poll showing a 20% lead came out yesterday..
Yup. This is going to be the first general election in forever where the Democratic incumbent will actively campaign on behalf of his successor. I hope they have Obama camped-out in a few key districts over the final two weeks.. he doesn't even need to be spread out very far - just pick two or three states and a few pivotal districts in each, and have him hop around doing public appearances.
Oh shit, that is one masterful ad from Edwards.
Yeah and it's not true everywhere. Dems had a sweeping victory in PA last night. They won all the available supreme court, superior court and commonwealth court vacancies. They were organized, out-fundraised and out-manuvered their opponents.
RustyNails
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The number is probably surprising for democrats too. The amount of demonizing that goes on in media regarding muslims is unchecked. Every bad story is reported and then some ex-cia dude is brought to the panel to explain us whats going on. Even here on gaf, the liberal commie cesspool. Saw a post from a guy saying moderate muslims are in cahoots with the extremists because if they weren't, why aren't the moderate muslims killing radical preachers? I mean holy shit fella.
Wolf/PA Dems have been extremely organized. I got a reminder in the mail on when, who, and what I need to be voting for if I'm a Democrat in PA. It was impressive.
In response to the "why are you running?" question:
@BenjySarlin:
Jeb on George HW: "All he would have to say is 'I'm disappointed in you' and it would send me into a deep spiraling depression for days"
@BenjySarlin:
Jeb on George HW: "All he would have to say is 'I'm disappointed in you' and it would send me into a deep spiraling depression for days"
Yup! It's pretty clear that his team knows what's coming from the RGA and Vitter in the final 2 weeks.. they're trying to cut it off at the ankles so that once Vitter lobs his "liberal/Obama" charges, voters will be skeptical.
Nazgul_Hunter
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This is what a man being forced to run for president looks like
Black Republican
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Manmademan
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Also worth mentioning is that PA is in the middle of a long and ugly budget dispute, we've had no budget for four months. Non profits and schools have run out of money and no one is happy.
Strangely enough, the state blames the (republican controlled) legislature as responsible for the impasse more than the governor by nearly 20 points which is the exact opposite of what you'd expect.
Wolf is relentless with his messaging and communication. It's a point of frustration with state republicans who lack his funding and organization.
Damn, really hope he wins!! Rooting for you guys!
WHAT THE HELL
Wow, I need full context for this.
RustyNails
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Nazgul_Hunter
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Lol. Isn't that like the Republican 12th commandment? "Thou shall not speak well of France"
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