-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
PoliGAF 2015 |OT2| Pls print
- Thread starter ivysaur12
- Start date
- Status
RustyNails
Member
Huma is waifu material. What do you got against her?
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
You know what, on the balance fuck it, let Carson lead. Hell, let Carson somehow get the nomination.
Bam Bam Baklava
Member
Typical of you guys to obsess over one poll with a dead heat tie. In other news, Clinton is losing Minnesota to everyone but Cruz. It's only one poll but how can it be wrong.
The midwest is finally gone.
The midwest is finally gone.
RustyNails
Member
Yup.
Herman Cain was beating Obama this time around...all accoording to keikaku
Aaron Strife
Banned
If Carson won the nomination I can not wait for the patronizing-as-hell comments from right-wingers about the "real first black president" and shit like that.
Let me just say that any poll that has a Republican winning in Minnesota is highly suspect.Bam Bam Baklava said:
Oh it's from SurveyUSA. Their polls are terrible. How did Kentucky go again?
FloydtheFathead
Member
I wonder what would happen if this were to occur and (god willing) he loses.. "Democrats are the real racists for blocking the first REAL black president...unlike that Arab communist OBUMMA". That's what I think would be the right wing media bubble response.
I honestly think that is in the back of their minds.. Yes.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
I mean...I hate to use this line of argument. I've been specifically avoiding it throughout the entire Carson campaign because I find it uncomfortable.
But...does the base think he's electable because "he's a black guy, it shows we're not racist, and he'll turn out the black vote for us"?
Basileus777
Member
Trump has been winning the "most electable" category. It means little other than people think the candidate they like is electable.
Black Republican
Member
we shall see
Big Green Anus
Member
I'm not too surprised here. Carson calling out the media bias against Conservatives would give him a boost in the polls. I wonder how Trump is feeling right now.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
How were you not expecting this?
Nothing will damage this guy on the right other than the other candidates. The "liberal media" and their "smear campaign" can't do it, because the voters literally think every news organization other than Fox News is "liberal media" and any time anyone reports a story it's a "smear campaign."
His main problem is that he's playing his "liberal media conspiracy" card WAY too early in the cycle. Even GOP voters will eventually get bored of this. Trump is going to destroy him in the debates, as will Rubio/Bush/Cruz. They have to, because he's the leader. He can't claim "liberal media conspiracy" when his own fellow candidates are slamming him.
I'm more interested in seeing general public favorability numbers at this point. If THOSE didn't drop? He's got a shot at the presidency.
The Technomancer
card-carrying scientician
I really thought things like the scholarship thing or the genuine stupidity of the pyramids comment or any of the stuff around attacking people when he was younger would hurt him. I don't like calling people stupid, ever. But I can't think of another word to describe someone who sees all of that and still says "yup, he's the guy". This isn't a case of differing ideology or misinformation or anything, the last week has revealed Carson to be far more of a moron than I ever expected and I don't get who's voting to support him
RustyNails
Member
You guys. Evangelical vote is the strongest in SC after Iowa. It's no brainer he's doing well. Remember McCain's black baby whisper campaign? I would be more surprised if Carson didn't win SC.
Trump will take him down in a classy and luxurious way. I believe in my ultimate comedy option.
I thought he was done after the knife and hammer stories. I didn't expect Republicans to turn around to say, "you've got the juice now."
Black Republican
Member
tomorrows GOP debate is strictly on finance,
i dont think they'll bring up Carson's "History"
this motherfucker
lololol
this motherfucker
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Exactly--Carson should be expected to win SC AND Iowa because of evangelicals. Once the other states get involved, that's where the real race is.
Basileus777
Member
Of course he did. The Republicans are in enough trouble in the state, it's easy/smart for the already hated governor to take more heat to prevent more non white people from voting.
RastaMentality
Banned
I want someone to make an ad about the black Jesus in his house. Just to see exactly what they'd say.
theprodigy
Member
Seriously, did Diablos hack into everyone's accounts or something?
http://www.centerforpolitics.org/cr...e-louisiana-gubernatorial-race-now-a-toss-up/
LA now Toss Up with extreme caution.
LA now Toss Up with extreme caution.
Aaron Strife
Banned
Yes. Yes they do.
He would lose black voters by the same 90-10 range that every GOPer loses by. GOP assumes too much that minorities vote based on identity politics but you remind black voters (some of whom may not be familiar with Carson's political leanings and only know him as a successful doctor) that he's anti-choice, anti-welfare, anti-Obamacare, etc. while sucking up to white Fox News anchors about how black people just need to pull themselves up by the bootstraps and any chance he'd have at making inroads with that community would fade.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Don't forget the "Completely denies that systemic racism exists in America." That's a huge favorite of the GOP.
RustyNails
Member
What I'm concerned about is how the media reacts to Carson, not polling. Will the media back off digging more into his past, for the fear of being labeled partisan? Will they stop asking him questions for the fear of not getting press time with his campaign? I remember the media being slapped around by W's campaign for going after his Air Force records, and they dropped it altogether because they didn't want to look unpatriotic.
Will Carson be able to weather the storm? All points look like he will. That's most concerning, that legit questions about his lies becoming background noise.
Will Carson be able to weather the storm? All points look like he will. That's most concerning, that legit questions about his lies becoming background noise.
No, even the other candidates are jumping in on him
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZjtRYxDGEZE
With the exception of Jeb - "I trust him"
Retromelon
Member
also here is something funny i saw on imgur
grover norquist isn't homophobic but just go with it
Basileus777
Member
Wait for more than one SC poll that started before this even broke before you start doing this.
Retromelon
Member
it indicates not even a percent of change whatsoever, but more time to gauge the will of the voters is not an unreasonable demand
RustyNails
Member
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Interesting that Trump keeps attacking the "pathological disease" thing Carson admitted about himself. I still think Carson keeps playing the "Everybody is against me! I'm so persecuted!" angle and it pays off.
The stabbing victim will reveal themselves and his belt buckle just in time for the Iowa primary.
It is monday and nothing has happened.
That's only going to work for so long.
I'm a little concerned... I read that Carson would only need to get like 12% of the black vote to swing the election. I'd really much rather go against Trump than Carson.
That's what I've been grumbling to myself.
I also loved this quote from Edwards when questioned on the topic of interest groups:
"My record is solidly in middle. I don't give 100% to anyone but my wife."
I mean, hot damn..
ask them where is the story. I am starving.
I brought it up a few hours ago; still waiting.
The candidates are in a forum right now. From what I understand, it's been pretty nasty. Only able to follow-along via Twitter since I'm stuck at work. Vitter accused the sheriff of Jefferson Parish (the one whom he was spying on in the coffee shop) of some sort of illegal activities. Seems desperate.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Yes--it's way too early for this.
He has been getting owned in every debate. It has zero effect on voters.
Roland_Gunner
Member
Lation Decisions has a new poll of Latino voters in swing states. Here are the key favorables:
Hillary Clinton: 61 / 27
Jeb Bush: 42 / 37
Marco Rubio: 32 / 40
Donald Trump: 15 / 71
Not much hope for Rubio to save the Rs and lololol Trump.
http://www.latinodecisions.com/file...battleground_-_Toplines_Nov_9_Release.pdf.pdf
Hillary Clinton: 61 / 27
Jeb Bush: 42 / 37
Marco Rubio: 32 / 40
Donald Trump: 15 / 71
Not much hope for Rubio to save the Rs and lololol Trump.
http://www.latinodecisions.com/file...battleground_-_Toplines_Nov_9_Release.pdf.pdf
minor effort
Banned
He's probably only irritated because they're not talking about taxes. He'll feel better after returning to Burning Man.
Nobody has dared to touch him besides the moderators. Every dialogue he's had with other candidates has looked like this:
He's been getting owned by the moderators, it isn't the same thing as Trump stealing his soul. He can play the persecution card so long as it's just the media going in on him, as soon as the other candidates start it'll stop working. He played that card way too early and too often.
LyleLanley
Banned
I think I understand politics now.
- Status
Similar threads
- Locked
- Locked
- Locked
- Locked