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you just got unbanned from a recent blaming tirade about Jack Conway.
shinra-bansho
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I'm somewhat curious, and this isn't just directed at you, but in the event that Sanders was the nominee. 1. Would you take issue with him then accepting high dollar $2700 type donations from tech, Hollywood, financial services, as well as the support of a SuperPAC. And 2. Do you expect he'd be able to mount a sufficiently financed general election campaign in the absence of that?
This is with regard to both his own race and fundraising for the DNC and down ticket races.
RustyNails
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Why is GayGAF for Hillary? Would quite possibly be a huge generalization, based on the few PoliGAF posters that have stated their sexuality. Could it be that, on the Democratic side, as everyone is welcome, regardless of your sexual orientation, and both camps would defend a gay persons right to marry, we are free to disagree on other issues? 
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Thank goodness for Brainchild though, as I would start to wonder if Bernie's sex appeal, with young gay men, was going to be a major problem, but then I remembered, he possibly has a secret weapon with Martin O'Malley as his VP pick.
Of course, this is still pre-nomination, but Martin could throw his support behind Bernie, before the Convention. I think Elizabeth Warren's skills are better served as the Senator of Massachusetts, or in a senior cabinet position.
. Thank goodness for Brainchild though, as I would start to wonder if Bernie's sex appeal, with young gay men, was going to be a major problem, but then I remembered, he possibly has a secret weapon with Martin O'Malley as his VP pick
.Of course, this is still pre-nomination, but Martin could throw his support behind Bernie, before the Convention
. I think Elizabeth Warren's skills are better served as the Senator of Massachusetts, or in a senior cabinet position.Abinash117
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Daniel B·;186122336 said:Why is GayGAF for Hillary? Would quite possibly be a huge generalization, based on the few PoliGAF posters that have stated their sexuality. Could it be that, on the Democratic side, as everyone is welcome, regardless of your sexual orientation, and both camps would defend a gay persons right to marry, we are free to disagree on other issues?
Thank goodness for Brainchild though, as I would start to wonder if Bernie's sex appeal, with young gay men, was going to be a major problem, but then I remembered, he possibly has a secret weapon with Martin O'Malley as his VP pick
Of course, this is still pre-nomination, but Martin could throw his support behind Bernie, before the Convention
Why does that matter?
Tarkus
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If I had a dollar for every avatar quote this one has gotten me...
Really the best avatar in poligaf. Works after every post.
I'm guessing from observations that about 40% of poliGAF is gay. Far from "the few."Daniel B·;186122336 said:
brainchild
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Any special interests that can donate enough money to potentially influence his decisions are not acceptable donors, IMO. I would be very disappointed in Bernie if he went that route.
Anyway, if he can beat Hillary without a SuperPAC, I believe he would have enough support to have sustained financing throughout his entire campaign.
brainchild
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Daniel B·;186122336 said:Why is GayGAF for Hillary? Would quite possibly be a huge generalization, based on the few PoliGAF posters that have stated their sexuality. Could it be that, on the Democratic side, as everyone is welcome, regardless of your sexual orientation, and both camps would defend a gay persons right to marry, we are free to disagree on other issues?
Thank goodness for Brainchild though, as I would start to wonder if Bernie's sex appeal, with young gay men, was going to be a major problem, but then I remembered, he possibly has a secret weapon with Martin O'Malley as his VP pick
Of course, this is still pre-nomination, but Martin could throw his support behind Bernie, before the Convention
Bernie is like a grandpa figure to me, but O'Malley?!! He is definitely sexy, even at his current age. I don't think he's gonna be Bernie's VP, though. I might be wrong, but I have a feeling that Bernie would pick a minority for his VP, possibly a Hispanic woman. He has already appointed a black woman as his press secretary. I think his cabinet will be very, very diverse.
I find this post to be kind of disgusting, but I can't quite put my finger on why.Daniel B·;186122336 said:Why is GayGAF for Hillary? Would quite possibly be a huge generalization, based on the few PoliGAF posters that have stated their sexuality. Could it be that, on the Democratic side, as everyone is welcome, regardless of your sexual orientation, and both camps would defend a gay persons right to marry, we are free to disagree on other issues?
Thank goodness for Brainchild though, as I would start to wonder if Bernie's sex appeal, with young gay men, was going to be a major problem, but then I remembered, he possibly has a secret weapon with Martin O'Malley as his VP pick
Of course, this is still pre-nomination, but Martin could throw his support behind Bernie, before the Convention
NYCmetsfan
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rand going full racist, nativist, xenophobe
I just noticed the recent declarations (since Brainchild), but I have been following the thread for some time and apart from Adam, I hadn't noticed a trend.
If it's shown that GAF gay men and women predominantly favor Hillary, then it would be interesting to find out why, but I think it is more likely that just reflects her general support, at least in PoliGAF.
http://www.bayoubuzz.com/kennedy-thursday.pdf
JBE has a 50/33 favorability. David Vitter has a 44/40 favorability.
With 20% African-American of electorate:
JBE: 49
Vitter: 43%
With 26% (what they're predicting):
JBE: 52%
Vitter: 40%
With 30%:
JBE: 54%
Vitter: 39%
Also?:
JBE has a 50/33 favorability. David Vitter has a 44/40 favorability.
With 20% African-American of electorate:
JBE: 49
Vitter: 43%
With 26% (what they're predicting):
JBE: 52%
Vitter: 40%
With 30%:
JBE: 54%
Vitter: 39%
Also?:
what did he do this time? His last post from this thread.
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must be this?
It's probably for his last post, it feels like he was trying to pick a fight with it.
omg he is an interesting person. Are you guys sure you never heard of him prior to this year? he's been on GAF for 10 years.
Wat? I worded that post with great care and carefully weighed whether it furthered the discussion (I stand by it). Brainchild got it and in case you are now wondering, I don't have a malicious bone in me
.Yea, he's been around forever. I've never had much contact with him outside of recently though.
Daniel B·;186125819 said:Wat? I worded that post with great care and carefully weighed whether it furthered the discussion (I stand by it). Brainchild got it and in case you are now wondering, I don't haven't a malicious bone in me
mmmhmmm
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Trump may be a Nazi, but at least he's savage to others who deserve savagery.
Aside from the possibility that he might win the nom and hand us the White House, this is why I love Trump's candidacy.
Honestly, despite all the good news that stacked up for JBE, I still feel like Republicans have a good shot at squeezing out a win on Saturday due to terrible election day turnout. And if it happens, I can't wait for Democrats to go into full panic and blame it on Paris and refugees.
Hobbestetrician
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Daniel B·;186125819 said:Wat? I worded that post with great care and carefully weighed whether it furthered the discussion (I stand by it). Brainchild got it and in case you are now wondering, I don't have a malicious bone in me
The SoS is now predicting 42%, which would be huge-ish for an off year gubernatorial run off. If Vitter won, it would be one of the greatest polling upsets of the past 10 years or so.
would not shock me however I remain tepidly optimistic.
probable if JBE wins: 51/48
blowout for JBE: 54/33
pessimistic Vitter upset: 51/49
blowout Vitter upset: 55/44
I was hoping Bernie touched on Israel tonight, but I imagine his campaign team may have advised him to leave well alone, for the time being. You may have noticed though, despite mentioning perhaps ten other countries, he didn't say Israel once (I may have missed it as I was listening to the video while washing the dishes).
Butts-a-plenty
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Daniel B·;186125819 said:Wat? I worded that post with great care and carefully weighed whether it furthered the discussion (I stand by it). Brainchild got it and in case you are now wondering, I don't have a malicious bone in me
It kinda read like you were insinuating that gay men wouldn't be supporting Bernie cause he has no sex appeal and that Martin would somehow add that to a ticket. Like gay supporters of Hillary would support Bernie if he was attractive...Like they are basing their political views on sex appeal...
Retromelon
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today in absolutely disgusting: All muslims are terrorists: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LztUMUAh2Hw
I saw this on the kelly file just now. there was some phd dr. with a middle eastern sounding name as a guest. Right after that played, he said words to the effect of: "I understand the feelings of americans right now" and started talking about security and donald trump, never saying another word about what the audience had just witnessed. No condemnation, nothing. I actually said out loud to my tv who the fuck is this guy
I saw this on the kelly file just now. there was some phd dr. with a middle eastern sounding name as a guest. Right after that played, he said words to the effect of: "I understand the feelings of americans right now" and started talking about security and donald trump, never saying another word about what the audience had just witnessed. No condemnation, nothing. I actually said out loud to my tv who the fuck is this guy
I take no issue with people donating the maximum $2700, unless they were coerced to donate the amount.
I take issue with Super Pacs but the issues I have are actually less severe in a presidential election. Because in the end I think that people are desensitized by huge amounts spend in elections. It's the constant misinformation from the media which has turned people off the political process. The focus on insanity from media instead of real issues that concern us all. You cannot be in the business of telling the news while running a tabloid. A lot more people pay attention in a GE but on a smaller scale the rise of SuperPac has been disastrous. Think Tanks and people only interested in muddying the actual science or reality of the situation are enabled by this policy. The huge economic power given to SuperPacs has pretty much ensured that majority of people running for office would be susceptible to currying favors.
I'd really like to see statistics of how many politicians that didn't get reelected ended up in some boardroom, think tank or lobbying role. Especially if we had data over the percentage over that overview last 50 years.
shinra-bansho
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And that fuck and everyone who thinks like him have 2nd amendment rights.
We're going to have quite a few "isolated incidents" soon, I'd wager. :/
brainchild
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I thought he was being sarcastic, but even if he wasn't, those statements wouldn't necessarily insinuate that. A candidate's sex appeal would be more like a bonus, not a determining factor.
Besides, if sex appeal was the determining factor, why would a gay man vote for Hillary instead of Bernie? It doesn't make any sense.
lol nice. Watch out, Democrats. Rubio's gonna steal the gay vote.
I think in that neighborhood - sticking with 53-47.
He got a nice endorsement tonight from General Russel Honore. That'll make for another round of nice headlines. It's almost like his team is spacing these things out on purpose - like they've taken lessons from Trump.
Edit:
new poll out today showing a 54-39 lead for Edwards. Very encouraging.
http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/polls/mri-23191
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On the topic of being gay and prefering Hillary:
I really don't support her because of my gayness, I guess. I've covered electability, I've covered the belief that she & Bernie would have legislatively similar terms, I've covered the belief that she'll appoint SCOTUS justices who are appropriate for my political leanings..
One biggie:
I really want to see the GOP mentally break. And if there's anyone on the planet to do it - to send them over the edge - it has to be the woman whom they've spent the past 25 years demonizing. To see them lose after everything they've thrown at her.. to see them lose to such a flawed candidate? It'd go a long way toward that goal.
Bill.
Honestly, while I kinda agree with you I have to say it totally came off as patronizing to me as well. Imagine if he insinuated that women only broke for Obama because he was handsome, it felt a little like that to me. Like he was implying that people vote with their dicks and vaginas and not their minds.
brainchild
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Bill.
Honestly, while I kinda agree with you I have to say it totally came off as patronizing to me as well. Imagine if he insinuated that women only broke for Obama because he was handsome, it felt a little like that to me. Like he was implying that people vote with their dicks and vaginas and not their minds.
Dammit, forgot about Bill, lol
Well, if that's how it came across, regardless of Daniel's intentions, he should probably explain himself. I understand how it feels to have people insultingly suggest to me why I make the decisions that I do, so I can sympathize with you guys here.
Well, I'm not gay but that's basically how I read it. Those constant winking faces aren't helping any either.
brainchild
Banned
Yeah, I understood.
Yeah, this is a big part of my thinking too. They've wanted to tear her down so badly for so long. They shouldn't get what they want. I'm looking forward to the wailing and gnashing of teeth while she's doing the ex-president influence thing after two successful terms. >
RustyNails. Our man Chris from TheFix is finally coming around.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...absolutely-be-the-republican-nominee-in-2016/
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...absolutely-be-the-republican-nominee-in-2016/
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Hilarious if he is the nominee. The pledge they all signed ts going to haunt them for the rest of their lives. Rand Paul of all people is going to be floored with rage.
Aaron Strife
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Yeah I'll go 53-47 as well. Vitter sponges up all the undecideds but it's still not really close.
I still have no idea why Rand is at the big boy table after Trump ethered him, not once, not twice, but three times. They just refuse to cut him out.
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