ItWasMeantToBe19
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Attacking Michelle for being on speaking terms with W, makes sense.
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PoliGAF 2016 |OT11| Well this is exciting
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Pretty dumb. Isn't Michelle the most well-liked political figure for young voters? Seem to recall a poll on this recently.
Maybe in 2008, but not in 2012. 2012 was just machine politics.
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I heard jill an hour or so ago complaining about how she's not allowed on the stage.
Her reasons were just baffling
Her reasons were just baffling
A mod should be there to ask questions and guide discussion. They shouldn't be there fact checking everything or else they might as well be part of the debate.
Lauer got shit on becaus he spend way too much time asking questions about emails and then tried to rush her on actual policy questions. He didn't push Trump that hard.
We all know Trump is going to spew bullshit. Question is will the mod ask follow up questions that allow him to continue to spew it. OR will the questions be framed in such a way that Trump has to deliver firm policy and be specific?
Lauer got shit on becaus he spend way too much time asking questions about emails and then tried to rush her on actual policy questions. He didn't push Trump that hard.
We all know Trump is going to spew bullshit. Question is will the mod ask follow up questions that allow him to continue to spew it. OR will the questions be framed in such a way that Trump has to deliver firm policy and be specific?
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Dr Jill Stein knows that hanging out with Holocaust and Holodomor deniers is better than hanging out with W.
CoffeeJanitor
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It's pathetic how much better Fareed Zakaria GPS is than most other news shows. His guests today were: Petro Poroshenko, Aung San Suu Kyi and he had a segment on the structural challenges posed by globalisation and the reasons Anwar al-Awlaki's sermons are still a potent force for radicalization in the US. Meanwhile, on This Week, George interviewed Boris Johnson and talked about John Oliver.
What a stark contrast.
It's because Monsanto engineered a GMO disease that spreads through Wi-Fi called Aleppo to keep her out of the debates. Rigged.
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Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Maybe, but they blew a huge lead. It clearly wasn't the right decision on some level.
I will agree.
I just think the blanket Obama comparisons are a bit rushed. We're dealing with two different candidates. This election is really going to test how much that behind-the-scenes machinery matters versus having a charismatic, outgoing candidate leading in the front.
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Lol attacking Michelle. Now that's a dumb move.
he is too wealthy for us
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LYIN' KEV
I have never really been up to speed on what's going on with meetups and such. Many people say I am very fun to hang out with. No one is more fun than me. Believe me.
Resident_UA
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At lest in that case the voters won't have an excuse of "I didn't know" after election. (like it happened after Brexit vote)
User 463088
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Don't you just buy people? It's easier than being fun.
Wait, what? Who's attacking Michelle?
This is probably counter-intuitive, given the main narrative surrounding the primary ("omg how could Hillary have let Bernie get so close!?"), but I take a lot of comfort in seeing how the primary played out.
First, you see a lot of Hillary's biggest margins in primary states which were predictable purple states. She did incredibly great in Florida, Virginia, and North Carolina, but that could simply be explained by demographics. The margins in Ohio and Pennsylvania are a bit harder to explain away as just demographics. So I take that as an early sign that the long term investments in GOTV are going to be effective.
But it's not just the margins in the general election swing states. The primary campaign also deployed resources remarkably effectively. A huge chunk of her margin came from Texas, Georgia, and New Jersey, which weren't even considered the high profile battlegrounds. Meaning: The campaign very effectively kept a laser focus on the precise conditions for victory, and successfully implemented their strategy to get there.
In 2012 Obama spent the entire cycle investing in data collection while Romney was fighting off Herman Cain. Hillary has been building on this infrastructure for almost two years, and Trump literally learned what GOTV meant in January (and also decided it was stupid). Memories of 2004 being what they are, I wouldn't want to count on this to flip a Trump lead in polling if that's what we ever see. But....I do think that Hillary will finish 3 points or more ahead of the final polling margin.
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Aaron Strife
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How dare prominent politicians be friends with other prominent politicians.
So is Stein friends with Putin or is that off-limits?
Can't wait for all the internet hype to amount to half a percent of the popular vote.
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I honestly can't stand Jill Stein- at least Gary has some principles. Jill Stein is just a caricature at this point. She's done nothing- the Greens will get <1% of the national vote which is fantastic. The Green Party won't be taken seriously until they stop nominating nutjobs like her.
Great speech from GWB- I can't even recognize the GOP of Bush's years to what it is now.
Great speech from GWB- I can't even recognize the GOP of Bush's years to what it is now.
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I'm going to need names of the people that helped corrupt you. I consider myself the guardian of your purity. And that someone would allow a baby, a 20 year old, to drink is deplorable.
The Green Party was a mistake.
Wow, those are really beautiful words. I wish I could go there!
This is a portion of George Bush's speech from the African American History and Culture Museum opening yesterday. These words are beautiful on their own, then add in that it was George fucking Bush saying them.
Man, how far the Republican party has fallen.
*And you know, Bush has committed many great terrible things. That is why we cannot allow Trump to become president. He gives off the aura of being so much worse already.
Holy shit that is an ignorant tribalistic sentiment. Stein really is the worst. Has she been arrested yet or is there still a warrant out for her arrest?
Didn't she get arrested last election? I feel like she likes getting arrested.
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Aaronology
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One more day.
Lol, you right. How did I miss that? She was arrested in October 2012. Bold move to shit talk Hillary as being corrupt when she is a literal criminal.
One more day.
Oh, look. He's exercising.
User 463088
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There's also a warrant out for her arrest right now. Not from the debates, but from the pipeline thing.
BlastProcessing
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We don't know what their internal numbers were telling them then or are telling them now. So we don't even know if they feel they blew a lead at all from their perspective.
Are you still bearish on Ohio? I'll avatar bet you that Clinton takes it. Loser has to use an avatar that says "I LOVE OHIO" from election day to inauguration day.
User 463088
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Why would you make someone say they love Ohio? Like, that's mean. No one loves Ohio.
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Bets need to have stakes!
Aaronology
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Team Trump: We didn't invite Gennifer Flowers
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/25/politics/presidential-debate-preview-2016/index.html
Guys, guys. He was just joshing around! Interesting wording here, too. Flowers stated she will be in attendance, and Trump & Co. have only declared she won't be there as a formal guest of the campaign. Donald is basically going, "I mean sure she might be there but it's not like we asked her to come or anything, b-baka~!"
This guy.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/25/politics/presidential-debate-preview-2016/index.html
Guys, guys. He was just joshing around! Interesting wording here, too. Flowers stated she will be in attendance, and Trump & Co. have only declared she won't be there as a formal guest of the campaign. Donald is basically going, "I mean sure she might be there but it's not like we asked her to come or anything, b-baka~!"
This guy.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Bush himself was a decent guy surrounded by horrible people making decisions. Doesn't make him blameless, but he gets far too much hatred here.
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One of the worst days of my life was at Cedar Point. I accidentally rode the Dragster thing. (I thought I was in a different line). And then I got stuck on the swings. And then I got food poisoning.
Aaronology
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Just once? Wow. I need to know your secret.
NYCmetsfan
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You didnt like it?
I road the same thing at Great Adventure. Shit is amazing. Rode it 4-5 times since noone was there.
The great adventure on is the tallest in the world. Loved it
NYCmetsfan
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I don't think he leaves New Jersey (lol)
whyamihere
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Early voting dump:
New voter registrations in NC:
(2012 results):
New voter registration by party and age:
VA:
NC Absentee:
GA Absentee: (note the work that campaigns must be doing on college campuses, and then the drop off with people who are juuuuust older than college aged kids)
Maine:
On early voting patterns:
New voter registrations in NC:
(2012 results):
New voter registration by party and age:
VA:
NC Absentee:
GA Absentee: (note the work that campaigns must be doing on college campuses, and then the drop off with people who are juuuuust older than college aged kids)
Maine:
On early voting patterns:
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