metalslimer
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I want the tape to drop to drive early voting/voter registration. Let Hilary bask in a debate win for tomorrow, and then drop it Tuesday.
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PoliGAF 2016 |OT12| The last days of the Republic
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I want the tape to drop to drive early voting/voter registration. Let Hilary bask in a debate win for tomorrow, and then drop it Tuesday.
He's still got 30 GOP senators to lose. To say nothing of the House and governors.
It is going to be him singing his favorite rap songs.
This will improve his popularity among black voters.
Yes, I know. Just further "proof" that there's smoke here and not just idle twitter bullshit
"Look folks, you want to know who also used that word? A guy called GEORGE. WASHINGTON. THOMAS. JEFFERSON. Great people folks and Bill Clinton raped many many women, and quite frankly folks, Hillary probably has too okay? She probably has..."
sazzy
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second time clinton has won the toss.
clearly the coin, math, and probability are biased.
balladofwindfishes
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He'll just bring up super predators. That's his default "yea, I'm racist, but so is she!"
eBay Huckster
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So what you're saying is Marco Rubio is dumb.
If you're a wuss.
Be strong, play Ted Kennedy's rules - every time someone uses a pronouns, do 3 shots of whiskey.
Knuckle Sandwich
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Throw him off whatever shitty gameplan he was going to try and just send him flailing. No rule against two massive scandals going on side by side. ;-)
ItWasMeantToBe19
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Trump has constantly mocked the women that Bill Clinton sexually harassed:
Voysa Reezun
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Everyone predicted that was going to come up.
I'm looking forward to seeing Omarosa spin this on CNN later this week!
I'm looking forward to seeing Omarosa spin this on CNN later this week!
ryutaro's mama
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Lyin Ted melting down
Get back to the phone bank, Ted.
FloydtheFathead
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Because why should they do your job dipshitLyin Ted melting down
Damn straight
The coins are rigged, folks. The coins are rigged. The US Mint modifies the coins' weight by just enough so that when they're flipped in a certain way they favor Crooked Hillary. The US Mint is DOING POLITICAL.
Nah at the earliest something like this won't be out until late next week. Too much going on right now. Trump is wounded and the GOP is damaged. Let them bleed out for a few more days.
This shit will come out. Everyone is trying to access to all those tapes regarding him I'm sure.
Well, shit.
The goal for the Clinton campaign and the Dems needs to be taking back the House now. How best can they depress GOP support and how best can they make Trump's floor drop out. They should consider diverting funds to the DCCC and longer shot Senate races in addition to possibly expanding their ground game into long shot states like TX, MO, and SC.
N-Word tape would be a bad investment, a total waste of time and money. Everyone knows he's a racist, whether it's on tape or not. His numbers with African Americans can't sink much lower than they already are, and it would just distract from the current scandal and ass-whoopin' he's about to receive. The only thing it would do is give his supporters more to love.
It's pretty sad that a major party candidate dropping the N word doesn't even move the needle on my give-a-shit-o-meter, but that's the kind of election it's been.
It's pretty sad that a major party candidate dropping the N word doesn't even move the needle on my give-a-shit-o-meter, but that's the kind of election it's been.
ryutaro's mama
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Well fucking played, bro.
Voysa Reezun
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As for my analysis of the Trump tape people are talking about: As a nigga who says "nigga" a lot, that nigga says "nigga" all the time.
Robert Costa ‏@costareports 45s45 seconds ago
Sessions to @washingtonpost on the scene late Friday night at Trump Tower
https://twitter.com/costareports/status/785171595912511492
Every damn candidate in the primary was dumb as shit not to vet him and get all of this. I bet that's why Cruz is really mad.
balladofwindfishes
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2 years of 100% Democrat controlled Federal government is the absolute nightmare scenario for the GOP.
I know this because it would be nightmare inducing for the opposite scenario to happen.
I know this because it would be nightmare inducing for the opposite scenario to happen.
JesseEwiak
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An N-word tape wouldn't be about the black vote, it'd be about getting a lot of moderate conservative to conservative voters who think they're not racist because they never use that word, even if they tweet #AllLivesMatter and think the only way you can racist is to either use that word or actually burn a cross to decide not to vote.
Lyin Ted melting down
Hahaha get fucked Cruz.
You really could argue this is somewhat conspiratorial. These tapes are ancient history. Amazing that someone had the discipline to sit on them until right before the weekend of a crucial debate for Trump.
When the dust settles I wouldn't be surprised if you hear things about Clinton ninjas playing a big role in the timing of all of this.
When the dust settles I wouldn't be surprised if you hear things about Clinton ninjas playing a big role in the timing of all of this.
ryutaro's mama
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You're missing the point. It is a play to moderate White Americans that may be conditionally voting Trump but struggling with the idea of supporting an ALLEGED racist. If he is shown to be a PROVEN one, maybe those voters stay home or vote another way.
It has NOTHING to do with PoC or his base.
Killer Queen
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I saw someone say that Trump's racism, sexism, etc is made up bullshit yesterday so I mean, lol.
Just going to assume
hope
TheLostBigBoss
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Why are these idiots using this "tape is old, why now?" excuse?
Why is the GOP so fucking dumb
Why is the GOP so fucking dumb
Knuckle Sandwich
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I think he uses the "er" version.
It's nurture. Nobody's born GOP dumb.
defeaTEDLyin Ted melting down
Felix Lighter
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It takes away the pretence for the many republican and independents that like to wave away the racism accusations. There are a lot of voters that only like their racism covert and while most of us would consider a lot of what trump has said as undeniably racist, dropping the n-word is for a lot of people where that line is drawn.
Bam Bam Baklava
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This is such bullshit. People also knew how he felt about women but when you hear it from his own mouth, it's different.
Why you guys don't understand that significant difference is beyond me. Why the hell do you think the Curiel saga hurt him so much? We all knew he was racist then too.
You kidding me? He drops the word "nigger" on tape he's finished. He loses everything. He businesses are done. I'd have a hard time any GOP congress person doesn't outright condemn him at that point. His campaign would be in turmoil and you'd depress the shit out of turnout.
No matter when you release something in October you'll be tripping over a debate or something.
I said to my brother that the media can't call it P-gate with the actual word because everyone feels uncomfortable with it.
So he suggested Ben Grabsy
Officerrob
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I couldn't disagree more, a n-word tape would be a politcal nuclear bomb
Basileus777
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It's about turnout more than changing opinions.
It would make a huge difference.
Donald is never losing the alt-right. That 30% or so will stick with him no matter what. But we've seen already with the Khan incident that his numbers can drop a lot lower - a tape of him saying the N-word could easily push him down to 35%. That word is basically the ONLY thing in the USA that actually allows you to legitimately call someone a racist, and that label is toxic. He'd lose the votes of everyone apart from the alt-right.
It'd also be about dominating media cycles. If we keep the focus on how reprehensible Trump is, even if we already knew it, we win. We're at one month away, and the number of cycles is growing short.. Trump has a mountain to climb his way just to get back to a tie, and losing three days or so to an n-word tape would make the climb even steeper.
lol my god
"It's just backcourt trash talk. Trump really is one of us."
FloydtheFathead
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Ask Donald Sterling why this shit matters.. because there is no way to spin it. If it's anywhere like that.. he's fucked.
cooltrainer
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This story is blowing up mostly because a lot of Republicans are seeing that there is no chance for Trump winning. If this stuff was released earlier this year it probably wouldn't have made a big splash. You could probably sub in any of his earlier controversies at this point in the election and a similar fallout would have occurred. I mean you look at this and it's not really surprising or really that shocking compared to other stuff he's said, but the current situation just makes it a prime opportunity for everyone to jump ship and try to save themselves. I can't believe there is still 30 days to go and a third debate still. How worn out and defeated is he gonna be by the time of that third debate? It's really amazing how poorly this has all gone for the GOP.
This is all real and just happened to me. No exaggerations.
I went to go visit my parents church today. They've been at a strong southern evangelical church for years, often sliding in typical conservative talking points and winking at nationalism. My family has stayed so long because so many people there are like family. Now, my parents aren't big Hillary fans but they despise Trump. They've been flabbergasted by the cognitive dissonance going on with evangelicals and it saddens them. The racism against us as Hispanics, the sexism, etc. I've tried to explain that this has always been going on, but they just didn't want to see it.
Today, instead of the typical sermon, the pastor started off wanting to address the current situation and asked if anybody else wanted to say something before the church. What followed was a sea of white people getting up and spouting both coded and direct propaganda. My mother had warned me before church to not get mad, so I sat silent, seething through all of this.
No joke, these words were uttered in our church today: Nationalism, Globalism, destruction of our nation, Hannity, John Hagee, Trump is a converted Christian now, democrats are for killing babies, our kids don't know anything because they're taught by professors who were paid off by big business. They pushed real hard the notion that we need to vote all the establishment out, that God could use Trump and that Pence was a good guy.
My mother eventually got so upset, she stood up and went to go talk. She spoke shortly but emphasized that Love is what brought her to the church and saved our family's life. Love, not hate or fear or anger is what keeps us. I was really proud of her.
Then, another woman got up and said "yeah, agreed." But then quickly dismissed that and asked if we all would stand up and sing "God Bless America". It was like a parody of a conservative church. It felt like a scene out of The Purge.
More people got up and talked. And my mom sat their crying at what she had never wanted to see before. No sermon was given today. God was not on topic at church today and it broke her heart. No message of Jesus for the broken or hurting. Only politics. We walked out quietly during the prayer because my mom was so visibly upset.
As we left, the pastor's daughter, an elder in the church and friend of my mom, stopped us because she saw my mom crying and leaving and "it broke her heart". She tried to console her while my mom tried to explain why she felt like this. The lady asked us "Can I pray for your mom?" I snapped back (maybe too hard), "Can you also pray for the Church?!" She winced and just went right into a prayer only about my mom and the country. We said thanks and quickly left the building.
I know not many of you are religious or from religious backgrounds or whatever. But evangelicals are all on board Trump's vileness and it destroyed me to see my mother's heart break for the church of people she loved today. For not hearing Jesus.
It breaks my heart what Trump (and the conservatives) have done for years and have hurt my parents so much.
I went to go visit my parents church today. They've been at a strong southern evangelical church for years, often sliding in typical conservative talking points and winking at nationalism. My family has stayed so long because so many people there are like family. Now, my parents aren't big Hillary fans but they despise Trump. They've been flabbergasted by the cognitive dissonance going on with evangelicals and it saddens them. The racism against us as Hispanics, the sexism, etc. I've tried to explain that this has always been going on, but they just didn't want to see it.
Today, instead of the typical sermon, the pastor started off wanting to address the current situation and asked if anybody else wanted to say something before the church. What followed was a sea of white people getting up and spouting both coded and direct propaganda. My mother had warned me before church to not get mad, so I sat silent, seething through all of this.
No joke, these words were uttered in our church today: Nationalism, Globalism, destruction of our nation, Hannity, John Hagee, Trump is a converted Christian now, democrats are for killing babies, our kids don't know anything because they're taught by professors who were paid off by big business. They pushed real hard the notion that we need to vote all the establishment out, that God could use Trump and that Pence was a good guy.
My mother eventually got so upset, she stood up and went to go talk. She spoke shortly but emphasized that Love is what brought her to the church and saved our family's life. Love, not hate or fear or anger is what keeps us. I was really proud of her.
Then, another woman got up and said "yeah, agreed." But then quickly dismissed that and asked if we all would stand up and sing "God Bless America". It was like a parody of a conservative church. It felt like a scene out of The Purge.
More people got up and talked. And my mom sat their crying at what she had never wanted to see before. No sermon was given today. God was not on topic at church today and it broke her heart. No message of Jesus for the broken or hurting. Only politics. We walked out quietly during the prayer because my mom was so visibly upset.
As we left, the pastor's daughter, an elder in the church and friend of my mom, stopped us because she saw my mom crying and leaving and "it broke her heart". She tried to console her while my mom tried to explain why she felt like this. The lady asked us "Can I pray for your mom?" I snapped back (maybe too hard), "Can you also pray for the Church?!" She winced and just went right into a prayer only about my mom and the country. We said thanks and quickly left the building.
I know not many of you are religious or from religious backgrounds or whatever. But evangelicals are all on board Trump's vileness and it destroyed me to see my mother's heart break for the church of people she loved today. For not hearing Jesus.
It breaks my heart what Trump (and the conservatives) have done for years and have hurt my parents so much.
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