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[Suikoguy]

Chuck Todd said Paul Ryan is super sad now

His analysis is spot on tonight.

Did they secretly replace Chuck Todd with a new one?

 

[DrForester]

I bet trump will win the polls for the debate, even though I think Hillary won.

I think the polls will be pretty evenly split.

 

[Link]

I think Hillary has a serious problem with being unable to actually attack Donald.

He brings up Bill's problems, she deflects to talk about how much he sucks without actually addressing his statements on bill.

She doesn't do enough to point out how horseshit this whole email scandal is and is just trying to squeak by saying "I know I fucked up, wouldn't do it again"

She's got mad policy skills, but she shouldn't keep trying to tank all those hits, especially since she has bigger issues trying to communicate her meaningful and therefore complex policies while Trump works in soundbites that mean nothing but are easier to digest.

Oh man. I really hope the polls end up vindicating her, but after this spectacular weekend, I expected to see a televised verbal murder happen on stage. Instead, Raddatz chewed him out over his bullshit more than she did.

She doesn't want to be dragged into the mud with him. And that's the right move.

 

[Plinko]

Hillary again got a fantastic commercial with Trump admitting to Anderson he paid no taxes and was happy about it.

 

[SexyFish]

-Trump said he would jail Hillary.
-Trump said he didn't agree with Pence.
-Trump said that he didn't pay taxes.


I really think there is no way he won this debate.

 

[ryutaro's mama]

To quote Trump, "That was a complete disaster."

I hated this debate, so much. It felt like rambling on both sides. She was a lot more coherent, don't get me wrong, but she got into the mud with him a few too many times for my taste.

 

[Dierce]

This might not have destroyed orange turd completely but I still believe the trend is towards Clinton.

 

[sazzy]

He did better than the first debate.

Or rather, Hillary did worse than the first debate. She was clearly rattled.

 

[8 X 11 Printer Paper]

I expect debate polls to be
Trump:50
Clinton:44

Just due to him not being a complete mess like last time.

 

[watershed]

Hillary's only bad moment was early on with the emails. After that she stayed on policy and details and didn't get into the mud.

 

[Syncytia]

Pence is alive

https://twitter.com/mike_pence/status/785310165327151104?lang=en

 

[anaron]

Jesus Christ


I knew it, I knew they would give him the benefit of the doubt.

 

[Ether_Snake]

I said she wouldn't try to make a big deal from that video because it would bring Clinton's past back to forefront, and still might depending on how much Trump tries to make a big deal out of it with the ones who accused Bill. As soon as Bill would comment on this, the media would run with it for a few days at least, and at this point in a campaign every hour's impact on the final results is magnified.

I think Trump's poll numbers won't be much worst in two or three days, unless worst comes out.

The worst thing that could happen is Pence dropping. I don't think Giulliani would help, maybe Christie would.

This is going to remain a very tight race and Trump still has a chance to win this, a LOT of people are going to decide to vote for Trump only once they got their pen over the ballot. This is a once in a life-time opportunity for most to vote for "something different", and many will just decide to do so at the last minute regardless of who is on the ballot. Happens all over the world in small and big elections, same old pattern.

 

[Ashodin]

Pence is alive

https://twitter.com/mike_pence/status/785310165327151104?lang=en

Well that settles that

 

[Owzers]

Smerconish...we're not talking about the tape, well....you know the last two commentators did.

 

[Sianos]

Pence is alive

https://twitter.com/mike_pence/status/785310165327151104?lang=en

mike pence... is this your final answer?

 

[ShadowSwordmaster]

Pence is alive

https://twitter.com/mike_pence/status/785310165327151104?lang=en

Goddamit.

 

[Tarydax]

That debate would have been a lot better if there were no audience questions.

I don't think Hillary did as well as the previous debate. She never once really got under his skin like before, and some of her answers (the Lincoln thing comes to mind) just weren't good at all. Her performance was disappointing, but she's still leagues better than Tim Kaine. She was fine for the most part.

Trump, though. He called America stupid, he admitted he didn't pay federal income taxes, he threatened to jail Hillary, he disagreed with Mike Pence, and he provided waaaaaaaaaaaay more ad material than Pence ever did. I will say that for all his rambling, he didn't fuck up as much as I was expecting him to; he didn't completely shit his pants or anything. I was thinking he would be like a wild animal that got cornered, but he was just sickly, low-energy Donald most of the time. I don't think we'll ever see him call Hillary a gendered slur at this point.

 

[Nafai1123]

Pence going down with the ship....at least until the next video drops.

 

[Kusagari]

Pence is too much of a coward to drop out.

 

[Kid Heart]

People I think might be giving Trump too much credit.

Keep in mind he threatened to throw Hillary in jail and threw his VP under the bus. Trump was pretty much as terrible as last time.

Hillary could have been better, but was on topic most of the night. Only answer I though was flat out terrible was her answer to the wikileaks private speech.

I think Kev's assessment is pretty much dead on, maybe giving Hill a B- instead of a C+

 

[hipsterpants]

I said she wouldn't try to make a big deal from that video because it would bring Clinton's past back to forefront, and still might depending on how much Trump tries to make a big deal out of it with the ones who accused Bill. As soon as Bill would comment on this, the media would run with it for a few days at least, and at this point in a campaign every hour's impact on the final results is magnified.

I think Trump's poll numbers won't be much worst in two or three days, unless worst comes out.

The worst thing that could happen is Pence dropping. I don't think Giulliani would help, maybe Christie would.

This is going to remain a very tight race and Trump still has a chance to win this, a LOT of people are going to decide to vote for Trump only once they got their pen over the ballot. This is a once in a life-time opportunity for most to vote for "something different", and many will just decide to do so at the last minute regardless of who is on the ballot. Happens all over the world in small and big elections, same old pattern.

stop. this isn't going happen especially after Friday.

 

[cartoon_soldier]

@jmartNYT 6s6 seconds ago
Asked a Pence adviser if Pence is staying on ticket.

No hesitation: "yes."

There it is.

 

[kevin1025]

I don't know, Donald was strong once or twice, but he rambled, paced around, sniffled, physically intimidated by standing behind her... And Hillary did struggle at times.

But Hillary made sense, didn't fall apart for the beginning 20 minutes like he did, and she answered the questions. He didn't a lot of the times.

Plus have these CNN fools forgotten about what he did an hour before? How quickly the media forgets.

 

[Tamanon]

Stupid question

Write in (presidential) candidate is an option regardless what state you live in, yes? So you can , in theory, vote a straight ticket but write in someone else?

I think 43 out of 50 states allow write-ins.

 

[Y2Kev]

oh god its kellyanne conway

 

[kadotsu]

Of course Pence will stay on message. He won't be the traitor. He wants to run in 2020.

 

[Dominican Power]

Now Kellyanne wants to show her face.

 

[Plinko]

People in here should be so happy about a draw. Everybody still sticks with Trump and more damaging oppo drops later this month crushing their reputations.

 

[Hazmat]

Steve Schmidt is the first person on MSNBC to mention that it's fucked up that Trump threatened to jail her, and they cut him off for Conway.

 

[royalan]

I think Hillary has a serious problem with being unable to actually attack Donald.

He brings up Bill's problems, she deflects to talk about how much he sucks without actually addressing his statements on bill.

She doesn't do enough to point out how horseshit this whole email scandal is and is just trying to squeak by saying "I know I fucked up, wouldn't do it again"

She's got mad policy skills, but she shouldn't keep trying to tank all those hits, especially since she has bigger issues trying to communicate her meaningful and therefore complex policies while Trump works in soundbites that mean nothing but are easier to digest.

Oh man. I really hope the polls end up vindicating her, but after this spectacular weekend, I expected to see a televised verbal murder happen on stage. Instead, Raddatz chewed him out over his bullshit more than she did.

Agree.

There were several points that she could have bombed the fuck of him, but didn't.

Whenever he questioned her judgment, she should have brought up how his own party is abandoning him. But she didn't

When he ADMITTED to not paying taxes, she should have unleashed fury. But nope. She let him move on from that.

She should have pivoted the Deplorable question on pointing out the support Trump is getting from hate groups, but she ducked it entirely.

Hilary won on substance, but she should have been a lot more aggressive. She's STILL too concerned with not offending Republicans. She won't slam dunk a debate against Trump until she gets over that

 

[Brinbe]

Remember that a lot of the narrative changed after the media rolled through the substance of the debate and the fact checks came in. Same thing happened with the VP debate too.

Wait till tomorrow for the serious journalists to go in on his lack of substance.

 

[Felix Lighter]

Alright, I guess let the Republicans get sucked back in and let's see the next tape drop.

 

[Officerrob]

oh god its kellyanne conway

I changed to CNN

 

[anaron]

the man threatened to jail a woman if he is made president and these dumbasses are even attempting to call it a draw

 

[HK-47]

People got way ahead of themselves with that Pence bullshit. Bad look.

 

[Iolo]

oh god its kellyanne conway

Insta-mute

 

[Hopfrog]

Feel like this might be the time when the low expectations for Trump kick in. Media will love grading him on a curve as it gives them their horse-race back.

 

[DrMungo]

Clinton did solid but not a knockout. Her Wall Street answer was probably more effective if she just didn't mention Lincoln.

Trump was all other the place that his base would love. Some zingers but unabashed gibberish. Also Pence got thrown under the bus.

 

[786110]

did clinton win

 

[BiggNife]

I said she wouldn't try to make a big deal from that video because it would bring Clinton's past back to forefront, and still might depending on how much Trump tries to make a big deal out of it with the ones who accused Bill. As soon as Bill would comment on this, the media would run with it for a few days at least, and at this point in a campaign every hour's impact on the final results is magnified.

I think Trump's poll numbers won't be much worst in two or three days, unless worst comes out.

The worst thing that could happen is Pence dropping. I don't think Giulliani would help, maybe Christie would.

This is going to remain a very tight race and Trump still has a chance to win this, a LOT of people are going to decide to vote for Trump only once they got their pen over the ballot. This is a once in a life-time opportunity for most to vote for "something different", and many will just decide to do so at the last minute regardless of who is on the ballot. Happens all over the world in small and big elections, same old pattern.

This seems really unlikely to me considering even at her lowest points most prediction models have had Hillary at a 70% chance of winning.

The silent majority thing is a myth. It wasn't true in the primaries, I don't see why it would be true now.

 

[Suikoguy]

People got way ahead of themselves with that Pence bullshit. Bad look.

How so?

 

[Syncytia]

I changed to CNN

I just went the reverse of you

 

[Teggy]

MSNBC agrees that he didn't shit the bed but put a lot of bad stuff for ads like Pence (lock her up) and this makes it a lot harder for the GOP, and who knows maybe that was the plan.

 

[Loudninja]

People in here should be so happy about a draw. Everybody still sticks with Trump and more damaging oppo drops later this month crushing their reputations.

Not seeing the draw part at all.

 

[8 X 11 Printer Paper]

Her campaign better fucking drop the next oppo either tomorrow or Tuesday.

 

[User1608]

the man threatened to jail a woman if he is made president and these dumbasses are even attempting to call it a draw

Bunch of bullshit.

 

[User 463088]

Literally, the worst. Liberals are LITERALLY the worst. Literally.

 

[Plinko]

Not seeing the draw part at all.

I don't either, but some on Twitter and TV are saying it.

 

[metalslimer]

I still think the polls will show a slight Clinton edge

That lockeroom banter answer so fucking bad.