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PoliGAF 2016 |OT16| Unpresidented
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Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
I like Harris and Kander. They need to have babies so we have a super politician!
I always assumed most of the "Bigly" was an in joke / irony. But apparently I had higher opinion of my countrymen and women than was warranted.
Slightly touchy subject this, maybe, but I'm curious.
Any way to get specific statistics on early voting and on the day voting, or is it too early? I remember in a previous thread, Florida early voting was said to be through the roof for the Democrats, based on party registration, with the I-4 corridor getting tons of Dem votes. Then, on the day voting comes, and I-4 is lost. Curious whether it was because all the Dems in the corridor voted early, whilst the Republicans split 50-50 early and on the day, or something else?
Also, Florida:
As of this morning.
Any way to get specific statistics on early voting and on the day voting, or is it too early? I remember in a previous thread, Florida early voting was said to be through the roof for the Democrats, based on party registration, with the I-4 corridor getting tons of Dem votes. Then, on the day voting comes, and I-4 is lost. Curious whether it was because all the Dems in the corridor voted early, whilst the Republicans split 50-50 early and on the day, or something else?
Also, Florida:
As of this morning.
Officerrob
Banned
As a native Californian who now lives in Virginia, the thought of running a California politician doesn't get me excited. Most of the people I know here (spanning both parties) think of Cali as a different country
It might as well be. We're too fucking good compared to the undesirable rest of the country.
Another plus to Kander - Kansas-born, MO SoS. He's one of the boys.
Trump just won. Throw out the rulebook.
campfireweekend
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#Calexit
Vince_Russo
Banned
It's a new beginning, guys. It fucking sucks, but I'm getting optimistic already about 2018/2020. I'm Mexican American, so please don't give me that entitled white privilidge shit 
The way Poligaf member would run back to this thread to call Bernie Sanders fans racists and STRAIGHT WHITE MALES -- was unproductive. Nobody really liked Yasss Queen no matter how "Faaaabulous" some of the members in here tried to make her out to be. I was always in fear of getting banned here because several of the mods used Hil-avatars and were very defensive on OT on any critciism towards her. Sorry to be bitter, but when you're Mexican American and you now have a Donald Trump leading us, it's kinda hard not to throw a little bit of shade I don't think Bernie would've won Florida, but I'm pretty sure he would've taken PA/WI/MI and thus, won the presidency. Anyway, no point in arguing now. I'm seriously trying my best not to say Fuck Off to the DNC and abandon them, but instead will just try to get the DNC where they need to be and help get some Dem senators/House members elected. I think this is much more productive.
I'm planning to donate 500 dollars to a couple of Dem candidates who have a shot at winning. Maybe 2-3, depending on their shot at taking a Republican seat.. I would appreciate some guidance, please! Thanks poligaf
The way Poligaf member would run back to this thread to call Bernie Sanders fans racists and STRAIGHT WHITE MALES -- was unproductive. Nobody really liked Yasss Queen no matter how "Faaaabulous" some of the members in here tried to make her out to be. I was always in fear of getting banned here because several of the mods used Hil-avatars and were very defensive on OT on any critciism towards her. Sorry to be bitter, but when you're Mexican American and you now have a Donald Trump leading us, it's kinda hard not to throw a little bit of shade I don't think Bernie would've won Florida, but I'm pretty sure he would've taken PA/WI/MI and thus, won the presidency. Anyway, no point in arguing now. I'm seriously trying my best not to say Fuck Off to the DNC and abandon them, but instead will just try to get the DNC where they need to be and help get some Dem senators/House members elected. I think this is much more productive.I'm planning to donate 500 dollars to a couple of Dem candidates who have a shot at winning. Maybe 2-3, depending on their shot at taking a Republican seat.. I would appreciate some guidance, please! Thanks poligaf
VendettaRed07
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It's sad, but I have a feeling that a female candidate is going to have an incredibly hard time next democratic primary. People will have severe reservations at trying it again in the near future.
http://www.theonion.com/articleslideshow/america-chooses-glass-ceiling-look-back-hillary-cl-54613#17
I'm laughing. And crying at all of these.
I'm laughing. And crying at all of these.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
What does the Bernie coalition think of Kander anyways?
Officerrob
Banned
Republicans fall in line...
Bonen no Max'd
Banned
This, I think, is one of the best arguments for abandoning guns as an issue for the foreseeable future. While I think massive gun control measures would save thousands of lives, ultimately policies of the scale required will never get passed. Instead, liberals run on milquetoast half-steps that sound reasonable but probably will have little consequence and then get them killed by the NRA.
It sucks, but this isn't the right battle to pick.
Ding ding ding.
Trump didn't win the country. He won Republicans.
Democrats should never try for the Republican base. It is futile. No matter how vile, if he has an R next to his name, they will come home.
excelsiorlef
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That still remains a huge failure on Clinton's part. Faith in people to have morality. Specfically Republicans.
CrimzonSamurai
Member
Guys all this reasonable and correct gun control talk is making me realize that Bernie's lack of record used against him in the primaries would have served him well in the general.
I mean, a few of his voters might have been turned off in the general when that baggage was fully exploited by the Trump campaign, but most of them are single-issue voters anyway and wouldn't care.
I mean, a few of his voters might have been turned off in the general when that baggage was fully exploited by the Trump campaign, but most of them are single-issue voters anyway and wouldn't care.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
94% of Republicans voted for Trump, jesus christ.
excelsiorlef
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He got married just in case and has left GAF probably permanently as he had his account nuked.
DontBeThatGuy
Member
So, the 'firewall' states Clinton lost was by about a total of 100k votes? Yo, that's fucking annoying.
Cesare Borgia
Banned
She didn't lose because she's a woman, she lost because she wasn't a good candidate and this wasn't the right year for a bad candidate to win. I'm sure the right woman could win at the right time.
Officerrob
Banned
Before the election I would have said that was happening, I have no idea why people expected Republicans to not come home to Trump
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
I'm glad those 100k votes matter infinitely more than 6 billion votes she won by in California.
Huh. I'd like to find his last post.
cartoon_soldier
Member
Yup.
People are jumping to give hot takes which would have looked completely different if just 40k more Dems had voted in WI or MI.
As always, the first reaction is that turnout was the problem when it is now obvious that turnout will exceed 2012 levels.
At least wait for all the votes to be counted.
God knows. It's what's annoying me about the Bernie Bros. Bernie's not going to run again, and the talk of him maybe winning this is, literally, academic. So, rather than shit up the thread, why don't we start talking about who you can coalesce behind in the future? Warren won't run, either, before anyone suggests her - the sexism will be the same, and her age is a negative.
I get that's it's just after, and people want to run what-ifs, but at the same time, if you're not going to think of a way to win this back and motivate your fellows to do the same, then what are you doing in politics? Fair-weather voters are... Well, not worth relying on.
whyamihere
Banned
I think it's true that Clinton deserves much of the blame. But it's also true that there were external factors at work that really hurt her. I think it's clear from both the Democratic data and the Republican data that the Comey letter really, really hurt her. That sucks.
Poodlestrike
Banned
It's because Republicans actually get how politics works. You vote for your guy to oppose their guy and push your issues, and if your guy sucks well at least he's on the right team and will be pushing in the right general direction even if you don't like him (or her...) very much.
The problem is that Republican issues are insane, except when they're outright horrifying. Why we can't get out guys to turn out for stuff that is grounded in reality I still don't understand. Or, I mean, I understand that Dems need to be coddled and cajoled and serenaded, but I don't understand why that is.
cartoon_soldier
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And yes, Comey mattered. His exoneration on Sunday also mattered. Both played into Republicans hands.
CrimzonSamurai
Member
Is there any way to participate in the DNC chair elections? Or is it a state party chairs pick it deal?
I mean obviously you can contact those who can if that's the case, but I want to know if there's a way to more directly support Dean.
I mean obviously you can contact those who can if that's the case, but I want to know if there's a way to more directly support Dean.
whyamihere
Banned
It really sucks. Like, fuck.
Poodlestrike
Banned
We expected some level of basic decency. Big mistake.
Aaron Strife
Banned
Every time a female candidate has been on a major party ticket it's gone horribly. That's a sample size of three but probably still enough to spook some people.
Poodlestrike
Banned
We ABSOLUTELY DO NOT WANT THIS TO HAPPEN. Making the administrative head of the party machinery into a political figure is a TERRIBLE IDEA and it speaks volumes that Sanders seems bent on turning it into one.
Is there anything that can be done against him? Even from a non-partisan point of view, what he did was fucked up, and gamed the election system.
CrimzonSamurai
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Oh how is it done then? I mean the headline said "Dean announces he's running for DNC chair" or is that "running" in the sense that Giuliani used CNN to "campaign" for AG?
So Kamala Harris.
Fuck him. Pure garbage.
cartoon_soldier
Member
Hell, Clinton popular vote will increase a lot with 4.75 million votes left to count in CA.
Bonen no Max'd
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This might be correct but it's important to remember that the Ferraro and Palin were both total desperation picks by people who knew they would lose.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
Member
He did something very perverse and got rewarded for it. In a way, I hate him more than Trump. At least I know the latter's mind won't be able to weather the weight of leading a country.
Poodlestrike
Banned
DNC members (as distinct from Democratic voters or even Democratic legislators) vote for the chair by majority. Generally, this is an invisible process because nobody cares. That is no longer the case, unfortunately, which means that now it's not about presenting effective plans to a handful of in-the-know insiders, the general public has become involved, which means that we're back to wooing people. Fuckers.
StopMakingSense
Member
this is more a CaliPoliGaf thing but I am curious if Feinstein is going to retire in 2018, and if so, who ends up replacing her. (NOT SANCHEZ)
adamsappel
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CrimzonSamurai
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I mean, wouldn't this also come with increased transparency and accountability? Plus with all the anti-establishment fervor among both parties it seems like it wouldn't be that bad of a move.
Well that's what happens when you go from one side winning to the other. The changes from 2004 to 2008 were pretty drastic too.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
"better coverage than verizon" is funny to me
cause it doesnt cover any of the big cities, so what would be the point
cause it doesnt cover any of the big cities, so what would be the point
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