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PoliGAF 2016 |OT16| Unpresidented
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Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
What in the world, CBS. Our media is just garbage.
Saying she wasn't a good candidate is nowhere near "hating her." These hyperbolic comparisons need to stop.
She would have made a fantastic president, though.
Saying she wasn't a good candidate is nowhere near "hating her." These hyperbolic comparisons need to stop.
She would have made a fantastic president, though.
Blaming her for the entire implosion if the DNC is a bit hyperbolic also... Just saying.
I'm figuring there will be a recession by 2018.
Our economy usually averages a recession every ~5 years, and its been 6-7 since the last one (admittedly a historic one). A new one is inevitable, and GOP policies on taxes, spending and Wall Street deregulation are going to seriously exacerbate it.
I do worry that as long the sky doesn't fall and nukes don't go off in the next four years, then voters will be complacent enough with re-electing Trump.
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10 years and 1 quarter is the record for the US. Currently, you're at 7 years and 1 quarter (since the second quarter of 2009) more or less exactly. You'd normally expect a return to recession in the next few years or so, but that might not be the case this time because of the severity of the 2008 recession - some economists argue there's a fair amount of slack still.
At this point I'm going to take a point from Bannon and ask how many of these people actually know what they're talking about.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
This may depend on how well Pence and the gang orchestrate a permanent vacation for Trump, sending him around on victory rallies and public appearances. Trump craves attention and adoration.
It is why he wants to rally only in red states, where it's safe and he can assume the yokel throngs will go apeshit for him.
The DNC has unmade itself since 2010. They lost the state races because they were too good to play by the new Citizens United rules. They will fail even more in 2018 because on that front nothing will change.
I hope that they get a lot of the purity test brigade into positions that will need to take responsibility for the shellacking that the dems will take in the midterms so the party is positioned better for the GE to actually get shit done.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
The NC GOP is disputing the election results and talking about mass voter fraud because McCrory lost.
The NC GOP has fully taken the throne from the Kansas GOP at this point.
The NC GOP has fully taken the throne from the Kansas GOP at this point.
"We did everything we could to prevent black people from voting, so that proves there was voter fraud."
ItWasMeantToBe19
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https://twitter.com/pblest/status/799707734593695745
We're going to worry a lot (for good reason!) about whether Trump will allow the peaceful transition of power, but the GOP is already refusing to allow the peaceful transition of power in some states.
Smiles and Cries
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I've never seen this much Obama on CNN in the last 2 years
they don't seem to cut away from his press events lately they stay on it all the way
I wonder if they are trying to bait Trump
they don't seem to cut away from his press events lately they stay on it all the way
I wonder if they are trying to bait Trump
The actual unemployment is super low now. The numbers bent to trumps shear will
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Yes, this is true.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
I can't believe we didn't cheat in this election.
What was the point of not cheating.
The GOP cheated all over the place with Comey and bullshit in NC and Wisconsin and... we didn't cheat
What was the point of not cheating.
The GOP cheated all over the place with Comey and bullshit in NC and Wisconsin and... we didn't cheat
shinra-bansho
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She wasn't a great candidate. She also wasn't a terrible candidate.
She also ran the wrong campaign. Which is not the same necessarily as bad. But definitely wrong.
Nobody's under any illusions about her skills as a retail politician or an orator though.
We're talking 100k or so votes here.
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thepotatoman
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We're also talking about Donald Trump as her freaking opponent.
Even if she won the electoral college, having such a close presidential election and poor senatorial election this year of all years is a pretty big cause for alarm within the democratic party.
Poodlestrike
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I can't believe we didn't cheat in this election.
What was the point of not cheating.
The GOP cheated all over the place with Comey and bullshit in NC and Wisconsin and... we didn't cheat
Our voters don't like it when we cheat. Hell, our voters punish us for doing stuff that LOOKS like cheating, even when it's totally above board.
Pivoting, not sure how to feel about this whole "Trump calls of Israel trip" business. On the one hand, Bibi condemning the Muslim ban is... good? Is that the word? Not used to using it in the context of stuff Bibi says/does.
On the other hand, considering the number of anti-Semites in the white house right now, widening the gap between the US and Israel feels kind of dangerous to me as a Jew; it's one with when Obama denounces the settlements and other terrible things the Israeli government gets up to, it's another when the Trump admin starts distancing itself. The former felt like pressure to get Israel to do the right thing, the latter makes me nervous.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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That was from last year, but there's a lot to be nervous about Trump and anti-Semitism, yeah.
shinra-bansho
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I don't know whether she ran ahead or behind the target Senate races.
Yes her opponent was Donald Trump. And he unexpectedly was able to tap into something.
But I think the degree of alarmist reaction, which I was party to, and has subsided to some extent, is not warranted.
Does there need to be introspection. Yes.
Does this wholesale burn it all down mentality have merit. No.
Obama's fundraising restrictions: part of the problem.I can't believe we didn't cheat in this election.
What was the point of not cheating.
The GOP cheated all over the place with Comey and bullshit in NC and Wisconsin and... we didn't cheat
When they go low? You have to at least parry the low.
Link
The Autumn Wind
To be fair, calling out blatant lies would show partisanship and bias. Can't have that.
May as well crosspost:
So we're a dictatorship now. Fantastic.
I think this election has actually discouraged me from participating in politics, and yes, that includes voting. I know that's exactly what these people want, but it's become obvious their methods work and their supporters are happy to accept it. I honestly don't see how this can be fought.
And I know everyone here is going to tell me to "keep fighting" and whatever else, but seriously, look what just happened. Democrats got completely slaughtered. If Donald Trump as president wasn't enough incentive to get out the vote for Democrats, I don't see any hope of it against "normal" Republicans.
I think the results of 2018 midterms are going to prove me right, unfortunately. It's pretty dire.
When do the Millennials start dying off, too?
They're going to get a disintegrated model of living. Hell, you can argue it's happened with unsustainable college costs and the rise of precarious living.
We will all become the poor whites, just at a different rate.
Stock up on cardboard for meals, fam.
The timing isn't the thing -- its the actions taken to mitigate and prevent the worst of its effects, safeguards which are going to be dismantled.
If Trump gets a serious recession, weird things are going to happen.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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I mean, this letter is a terrorist threat, but I want to focus on just one part of the letter.
"go back to your God Forsaken land!" is being said to a Muslim woman I believe or at least someone they believe is a Muslim. They clearly think she comes from the Middle East.
... Christianity was started in the Middle East.
The American Taliban are... Desperately unintelligent.
"go back to your God Forsaken land!" is being said to a Muslim woman I believe or at least someone they believe is a Muslim. They clearly think she comes from the Middle East.
... Christianity was started in the Middle East.
The American Taliban are... Desperately unintelligent.
I mean, this letter is a terrorist threat, but I want to focus on just one part of the letter.
"go back to your God Forsaken land!" is being said to a Muslim woman I believe or at least someone they believe is a Muslim. They clearly think she comes from the Middle East.
... Christianity was started in the Middle East.
The American Taliban are... Desperately unintelligent.
Real Christianity was started in 'merica, tho.
Because 'merica exists by itself and stuff, I think. Yeah.
I mean, this letter is a terrorist threat, but I want to focus on just one part of the letter.
"go back to your God Forsaken land!" is being said to a Muslim woman I believe or at least someone they believe is a Muslim. They clearly think she comes from the Middle East.
... Christianity was started in the Middle East.
The American Taliban are... Desperately unintelligent.
Is this real? This "neighborhood watch" needs to be reported to the policy immediately. And I'd seek legal advice immediately if I received that letter.
shinra-bansho
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New Upshot story on rural voting power.
It is ridiculous.
States that comprise 17% of the US population can theoretically hold a Senate majority.
If California and Wyoming had the same EC representation, CA would have 159 electoral college votes.
It is ridiculous.
States that comprise 17% of the US population can theoretically hold a Senate majority.
If California and Wyoming had the same EC representation, CA would have 159 electoral college votes.
Capped in '29 when the GOP had full power to its current limit.
Also, fam, got a question for you all.
How was the DNC elitist, corporate shills who are "out of touch with America on every level" if a Wikileaks email implied they were going to use TANF to start funding a basic income for American citizens? One may dislike the route they'd take, but they were considering one.
Doesn't this kind of show that Hillary and the DNC were not only adopting Obama's concerns that such a program is now mandatory for the future, but they were...dare I say it, being proactive to get a system in place before the paradigms started to change?
Instead we got the orange Fallout-timeline character running things, a guy prone to inherit the first major losses of jobs via automation who ran on a restoration campaign circa 1986.
We're fucked, fam.
How was the DNC elitist, corporate shills who are "out of touch with America on every level" if a Wikileaks email implied they were going to use TANF to start funding a basic income for American citizens? One may dislike the route they'd take, but they were considering one.
Doesn't this kind of show that Hillary and the DNC were not only adopting Obama's concerns that such a program is now mandatory for the future, but they were...dare I say it, being proactive to get a system in place before the paradigms started to change?
Instead we got the orange Fallout-timeline character running things, a guy prone to inherit the first major losses of jobs via automation who ran on a restoration campaign circa 1986.
We're fucked, fam.
Because we're required by law to have 435 House seats (or 535 electoral college votes, I forget which). Because smaller states would blow a fucking gasket if we said "Sorry- you're too small to have any seats in the House." So we end up with Wyoming getting a congressman because they have to, then weighting the rest of the states so you end up with relative proportions that are tilted against the biggest ones.
One of the few good things about Trump being president is that he'll almost assuredly be in the middle of a recession, if not cause one since he's going to gut Dodd-Frank.
shinra-bansho
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It's weird how distorted the image of Clinton became, such that it has become impossible for her to care about people in her own right...Also, fam, got a question for you all.
How was the DNC elitist, corporate shills who are "out of touch with America on every level" if a Wikileaks email implied they were going to use TANF to start funding a basic income for American citizens? One may dislike the route they'd take, but they were considering one.
Doesn't this kind of show that Hillary and the DNC were not only adopting Obama's concerns that such a program is now mandatory for the future, but they were...dare I say it, being proactive to get a system in place before the paradigms started to change?
Instead we got the orange Fallout-timeline character running things, a guy prone to inherit the first major losses of jobs via automation who ran on a restoration campaign circa 1986.
We're fucked, fam.
I was reading a column in the Times that referenced this:
http://www.nytimes.com/1993/05/23/magazine/saint-hillary.html?pagewanted=all
An article of a somewhat mocking tone about her naivety in attempt to help people.
What could have been.
ItWasMeantToBe19
Banned
Eliminating Dodd-Frank won't cause a recession for a few years.
But trade wars will cause recession pretty quickly.
But trade wars will cause recession pretty quickly.
Aaron Strife
Banned
I'd like to imagine that doing this would stir up some kind of outrage, but the GOP could pass a bill that legalizes puppy murder and their poll numbers would rebound after like a week.
Win-win I guess.
"bringing jobs back" could be stimulative... for a brief period. and be disastrous soon after. which kind of spooks me, it'd be good short term politics so there's incentive
ArkhamFantasy
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The ends justify the means. They are ace attorney villains.
I think the antisemitism in the cabinet, while alarming, isn't a predictor of relations with Israel. they will double down on backing Israel regardless of their conduct and find a common enemy / boogeyman in a defanged Iran. They hate the "globalists" not their brothers in arms against Islam.
See, the Wall Street issue is kind of interesting in that there's like 90% of people who seem to hate the banks. Which sounds good...if it weren't for the fact that half of those people think the solution is to let them do whatever they want.
RastaMentality
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Wow, they discussed getting rid of the 5 year limit too. that would've pissed the fuck off the GOP and racist white people if they ever did that.Also, fam, got a question for you all.
How was the DNC elitist, corporate shills who are "out of touch with America on every level" if a Wikileaks email implied they were going to use TANF to start funding a basic income for American citizens? One may dislike the route they'd take, but they were considering one.
Doesn't this kind of show that Hillary and the DNC were not only adopting Obama's concerns that such a program is now mandatory for the future, but they were...dare I say it, being proactive to get a system in place before the paradigms started to change?
Instead we got the orange Fallout-timeline character running things, a guy prone to inherit the first major losses of jobs via automation who ran on a restoration campaign circa 1986.
We're fucked, fam.
ItWasMeantToBe19
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? I think a lot of capital would flee pretty quickly if China stopped importing goods from the United States.
A trade war with China could also cause a breakdown of the Chinese economy (which is in bad shape already) and that could cause a bunch of different bad shit to happen that we can't even comprehend right now.
Aaron Strife
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90% of people also support background checks for gun purchases.
GOP: "I am against background checks"
Dems: "I am for background checks"
America: "Waaaaahhhhh I can't make up my mind, both sides are the same!"
I once calculated the minimal % of the population that could bring the senate grinding to a halt (filibuster) by counting the 20 least populace states. It was alarming.
Edit. Found my post (from 2013 😫
A filibuster can happen with the senate representation of about 12% of the US population.ItWasMeantToBe19
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Why does Maryland ban atheists from public office.
What the fuck is this. It's fucking Maryland.
The other states that ban atheists from holding office are all from the Confederacy so that makes more sense, but Maryland?
What the fuck is this. It's fucking Maryland.
The other states that ban atheists from holding office are all from the Confederacy so that makes more sense, but Maryland?
They have a baller flag tho
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